USA Boxing sanction update?

[Tarquin Tarpaulin IV]

I don't fully understand the set up in the US but thought that this part may be impractical?


3. NF is not permitted to have any link with any existing professional boxing or
professional combat sport organization; and
4. NF cannot have elected officials who have previously been involved in
professional boxing or professional combat sport organizations unless those
persons have terminated their ties with those other professional organizations
at least one year before the election.

[JMac]

I don't fully understand the set up in the US but thought that this part may be impractical?


3. NF is not permitted to have any link with any existing professional boxing or
professional combat sport organization; and
4. NF cannot have elected officials who have previously been involved in
professional boxing or professional combat sport organizations unless those
persons have terminated their ties with those other professional organizations
at least one year before the election.

The key words are National Federation. Like I said in the other post, if a local coach has no desire to be part of international competitions and works with pros, there is no problem. I don't know how a NF could have links with a pro organization like the non AIBA alphabet groups anyway.

[hbomb2]

I don't fully understand the set up in the US but thought that this part may be impractical?


3. NF is not permitted to have any link with any existing professional boxing or
professional combat sport organization; and
4. NF cannot have elected officials who have previously been involved in
professional boxing or professional combat sport organizations unless those
persons have terminated their ties with those other professional organizations
at least one year before the election.

The key words are National Federation. Like I said in the other post, if a local coach has no desire to be part of international competitions and works with pros, there is no problem. I don't know how a NF could have links with a pro organization like the non AIBA alphabet groups anyway.

If a coach produces a national champion and also works with professional boxers, that coach will not be able to work with his/her national champion in international events or Olympic Games. Only professional boxers and coaches that sign with AIBA will have the opportunity to go to the Olympic Games. They are attempting to run a monopoly on the sport of boxing and the IOC, USOC and USA Boxing have not made an attempt to prevent it but are participating. I do not see how no one can see that this is not right. I do not see it being successful here in the US. Maybe overseas?...

[LAGRIZZLY1]

While the suspension has been lifted, members of all respective local boxing commissions of USA Boxing need to remember that the United States Olympic Committee (USOC) and the AIBA are parent organizations of USA Boxing. Therefore, we are under their authority. In which means that suspension could be just as easily be brought down against the organization, with more penalities.
But, in the meantime the youth are the ones who will suffer because of individuals that refuse to cooperate nor stop trying to gain something for themselves. Why? Because the gym they usually go to for boxing practice is closed!
The grass roots boxing programs MAKE the REAL backbone of USA Boxing just as other high school sports such as basketball, baseball, soccer, swimming, track and field are the backbone for the USOC.
In closing, let's clean up our respective local boxing commissions and work together to bring back amateur boxing within the United States of America!

[Tarquin Tarpaulin IV]

I don't fully understand the set up in the US but thought that this part may be impractical?


3. NF is not permitted to have any link with any existing professional boxing or
professional combat sport organization; and
4. NF cannot have elected officials who have previously been involved in
professional boxing or professional combat sport organizations unless those
persons have terminated their ties with those other professional organizations
at least one year before the election.

The key words are National Federation. Like I said in the other post, if a local coach has no desire to be part of international competitions and works with pros, there is no problem. I don't know how a NF could have links with a pro organization like the non AIBA alphabet groups anyway.

That's not my understanding JMac.

Clubs in the UK elect their own regional representatives to sit on the national council. Many in the UK have gained professional status, primarily as coaches following an amendment to the rulebook that allows amateurs to work in the professional ranks providing there is no crossover, i.e. ams and pros training together. This followed several issues where coaches were seen on TV cornering a professional heavyweight champion and led to an enquiry that established that there were around 500 people holding pro positions. That was 3 years ago and I know of 3 national champion producing coaches that have qualified in the last 2 months!

The devil is in the detail!!

One of the driving forces behind the WSB offer here in the UK is former World Champion Barry McGuigan. Barry runs a couple of ambox/educational academies, trains and manages professionals. The other, Rob McCracken (trainer of Carl Froch) has just been made a Director of BABA (British Amateur Boxing Asociation) the body seeking the London WSB franchise. BABA are not affiliated to AIBA but that doesn't seem to matter!!?


This whole thing is a mess and I concur with hbomb that success in the US is not a given and that the plan for global domination is based on a miscalculation or misunderstanding of the variances in how the sport runs in different countries.

[sucracristo]

am i the only one who thinks the lesson here is that usaboxing needs to have an insurance plan B? having insurance dependent on usoc or aiba seems like it could lead to more problems in the future. aside from the adonis issue, if competition is dependent on insurance, and someone else can decide to yank your insurance, then every member of usaboxing is at the mercy of another organization. again, i'm not talking about the adonis issue. boxing should continue in the usa whether or not it is sanctioned by usoc or aiba. period. i would go beyond that and i would suggest that a day may come when usab may WANT to withdraw from aiba or usoc, possibly along with other countries. i agree with the statements already made that this sport should not be at the mercy of the elites. american boxing is grassroots and community based and there may come a day when american boxing needs to head in its own direction, maybe along with britain's ABA and a few others