Were you expecting the second coming of Mike Tyson? The way the BBC were banging on you can't be blamed for thinking so.milpool wrote:Never mind Flintoff...Dawson was bloody awful.
Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
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jameswilson
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
I wasn't expecting much but he was terrible.jameswilson wrote:Were you expecting the second coming of Mike Tyson? The way the BBC were banging on you can't be blamed for thinking so.milpool wrote:Never mind Flintoff...Dawson was bloody awful.
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polecateddy
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jameswilson
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
I didn't set a lower limit on my expectations, thus it was impossible for me to be suprised.milpool wrote:I wasn't expecting much but he was terrible.jameswilson wrote:Were you expecting the second coming of Mike Tyson? The way the BBC were banging on you can't be blamed for thinking so.milpool wrote:Never mind Flintoff...Dawson was bloody awful.
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I was joking. But yes, Zahir Kahut was exactly who I was thinking of!Looking On wrote:Erm .... Yes he would , even the solicitor without defence would be far too much for himgreenyox3 wrote:I'd chuck him into the next Prizefighter. He wouldn't be the worst fighter to have competed in it.
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Pongsaklek
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
Here are some pictures from the fight
Dawson punching back

Moving like a butterfly

and finally the knockdown

Dawson punching back

Moving like a butterfly

and finally the knockdown

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handsofstone
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
can anyone explain why it was scored 39-38 and not 38-37?
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Pongsaklek
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
The ref was so impressed he scored one round 11-10.handsofstone wrote:can anyone explain why it was scored 39-38 and not 38-37?
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handsofstone
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
haha qualityPongsaklek wrote:The ref was so impressed he scored one round 11-10.handsofstone wrote:can anyone explain why it was scored 39-38 and not 38-37?
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Bard of Boxrec
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
I've got to say I was expecting nothing and was pleasantly surprised.
however for some reason what I had in mind before the fight was that 'Comic Relief Ricky Gervais charity fight' standard. which was clearly a bit wide of the mark.
however for some reason what I had in mind before the fight was that 'Comic Relief Ricky Gervais charity fight' standard. which was clearly a bit wide of the mark.
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Bard of Boxrec
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
This is the sort of thing that gets brushed over when it doesn't matter so much (hence not much discussion here). But the times when criminal officiating should be brought to light can't just be reserved for more high-level matchups.handsofstone wrote:can anyone explain why it was scored 39-38 and not 38-37?
If anything, it's MORE worrying to see it here. How can this mistake possibly have been made in a four round fight??? What excuse can the referee have? Dawson won one round with a knockdown. The referee counted the fornicating knockdown. Therefore the only explanation is that he has no fornicating clue what he is doing. I mean did he forget there was a knockdown? Or what???
Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
genuinley wanted freddie to loose tonight, but i had him winning the three rounds purely on aggression (obv loosing the kd round). raises suspicion on 39-38 considering he got floored. did find myself laughing a lot at his right hands
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Didn't get the 39-38 score, should've been 38-37 imo. Was an awful fight, he fought an absolute bum who didn't come to fight but this is the kinda guy fed to american prospects to get the ko on their record.
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Controversial
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
Probably the most unnatural fighter I have seen, is he seriously looking at a boxing career? I thought it was a one off fight, if I were him I would give up before he gets seriously hurt.
Yes he won only because he opponent was useless and hardly threw a punch. I'm no pro but done a bit of amateur boxing as a teenager but even before I stepped into a boxing gym I could throw a right hand purely from watching boxing for so many years and hitting a bag at home. If I had a former world champion training me for all those months I would have been much better than that. He looked like he was chucking a cricket ball when he threw it, lol.
Yes he won only because he opponent was useless and hardly threw a punch. I'm no pro but done a bit of amateur boxing as a teenager but even before I stepped into a boxing gym I could throw a right hand purely from watching boxing for so many years and hitting a bag at home. If I had a former world champion training me for all those months I would have been much better than that. He looked like he was chucking a cricket ball when he threw it, lol.
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Boxingcutsman
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
The 39-38 score was agreed by all parties prior to the contest taking place, the BBBoCircuses sanctioned it

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Mimmy
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
Typical British attitude. Why cant you be pleased that a fellow British person has acchieved his dream? At the end of the day he has a pro record of 1 and 0. All you have is a record of Day dream Believer! Give him some credit for christ sakedudu wrote:genuinley wanted freddie to loose tonight, but i had him winning the three rounds purely on aggression (obv loosing the kd round). raises suspicion on 39-38 considering he got floored. did find myself laughing a lot at his right hands
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It's Zahid. If you're going to chuck a legend's name around, at least get it right.greenyox3 wrote:I was joking. But yes, Zahir Kahut was exactly who I was thinking of!
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The 1bangkid
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
Naandrew wrote:Lol though Heffron v Vassell was a belterThe 1bangkid wrote:
Punchy Joe wrote:Freddie won it, it was a bit of girly performance though
Feel sorry for the mugs who payed just to see Flintoff
Yeah that was a proper fight pay for that anyday was referring to the people who payed just to see Flintoff
Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
Disagree completely. He's been able to train as if he was full-time (unlike ams, who will normally manage 2/3 nights a week at the local club). He's also had one-on-one access to top trainers in a way that no 'normal' novice would. Finally, he's 'moved around' before, both in Dubai and at Ricky Hatton's place, so he wasn't a complete and utter novice six months ago.The Dark Destroyer wrote:To be fair that was his first fight with just six months experience. Most boxers get that fight out of the way in their teens, I imagine they looked as poor then too.TheCobra wrote:That right hand, oh dear, a little embarassing that he's had all that training off top pros and he can't even throw a proper right hand. He won the fight though, 3-1 as other's had it. Won me a few quid too!
Oh, and despite all of that, most boxers can throw a semi-decent right-hand after about three months' training
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Hagler2002
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
Some of the media reports are cringeworthy
"make no mistake, Flintoff was heading into the most dangerous territory of his life."
"stepping into the ring semi-naked with a fearsomely appointed American jailbird anxious to separate him from consciousness is a different order of challenge than Acapulco cliff diving."
"the Ashes winner showed impressive composure to take a narrow points win"
"make no mistake, Flintoff was heading into the most dangerous territory of his life."
"stepping into the ring semi-naked with a fearsomely appointed American jailbird anxious to separate him from consciousness is a different order of challenge than Acapulco cliff diving."
"the Ashes winner showed impressive composure to take a narrow points win"
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Rockys gum shield
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
I actually wanted Freddie to lose for the good of boxing but thought he deserved to win the bout on work rate alone, personally think that if he retires on that it the sport has been slightly tarnished by what should have been a charity event not a pro fight.
What do we expect next Darren Gough to get fit and play left wing for Chelsea, really does make a mockery of a professional sport.
What do we expect next Darren Gough to get fit and play left wing for Chelsea, really does make a mockery of a professional sport.
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mickey1975
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
The legend is streets ahead of these two, and I am not taking the piss.dondada wrote:It's Zahid. If you're going to chuck a legend's name around, at least get it right.greenyox3 wrote:I was joking. But yes, Zahir Kahut was exactly who I was thinking of!
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mimmy123 wrote:Typical British attitude. Why cant you be pleased that a fellow British person has acchieved his dream? At the end of the day he has a pro record of 1 and 0. All you have is a record of Day dream Believer! Give him some credit for christ sakedudu wrote:genuinley wanted freddie to loose tonight, but i had him winning the three rounds purely on aggression (obv loosing the kd round). raises suspicion on 39-38 considering he got floored. did find myself laughing a lot at his right hands
Get a grip. You watched a bona fide fixed fight last night and you think that's something to be proud of?
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Ditto.Riddick Blowe wrote:I've got to say I was expecting nothing and was pleasantly surprised.
however for some reason what I had in mind before the fight was that 'Comic Relief Ricky Gervais charity fight' standard. which was clearly a bit wide of the mark.
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Bard of Boxrec
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Re: Flintoff please retire and I have only seen 1 round
Your analogy would be more accurate if you said Darren Gough to play for the likes of Poole Town (or lower).Rockys gum shield wrote:I actually wanted Freddie to lose for the good of boxing but thought he deserved to win the bout on work rate alone, personally think that if he retires on that it the sport has been slightly tarnished by what should have been a charity event not a pro fight.
What do we expect next Darren Gough to get fit and play left wing for Chelsea, really does make a mockery of a professional sport.
This was an event between two fighters of a poor standard which happened to generate a lot of interest for a specific reason unrelated to ability.