Arturo Gatti

[kamicazze]

Having followed the latter part of Gatti's career, I recently sat down to watch his career. The man deserved his moniker of the human highlight reel. So many fights that were great. Then it got me thinking what if Gatti had fought these following men who were equally happy for a tear up:
Diego Corrales at LW
Jose Luis Castillo at LW
Ricky Hatton at LWW
Miguel Cotto at LWW
and Michael Katsidis at catchweight.

How do we all think these fights would have panned out other than the obvious "fight of the year"

[Rover]

I'd clearly favor everyone over Gatti except for Katsidis, and no need for a catchweight; if Gatti/Corrales and Castillo could've been at LW (and Corrales/Gatti also could've been at SFW), Gatti/Katsidis could've been at LW also.

[gilgamesh]

Diego Corrales would've probably finally stopped Gatti late on cuts or possibly an unanswered barrage of hooks on the ropes after both fighters either got rocked or hit the canvas at a few points in an exciting scrap.

Jose Luis Castillo would've worked over Gatti on the inside something fierce after a slow start where he maybe loses a few rounds, he would come on strong in the 3rd or 4th and would only build as it went on. He would stop Gatti in 7 or 8 one sided rounds.

Ricky Hatton would beat the crap out of Gatti and stop him inside 7 or 8 rounds as well.

Miguel Cotto would really beat the hell out of Gatti and he'd stop him in the 5th

Katsidis is as evenly matched with Gatti as most anybody else. I can see those two splitting a fight with each other and having a rubber match...I get the feeling Gatti's superior boxing skill would allow him to get the edge on his best nights against Katsidis. If he gets drawn into an all out slugfest, it could go either way.

[Rover]

Diego Corrales would've probably finally stopped Gatti late on cuts or possibly an unanswered barrage of hooks on the ropes after both fighters either got rocked or hit the canvas at a few points in an exciting scrap.

Jose Luis Castillo would've worked over Gatti on the inside something fierce after a slow start where he maybe loses a few rounds, he would come on strong in the 3rd or 4th and would only build as it went on. He would stop Gatti in 7 or 8 one sided rounds.

Ricky Hatton would beat the crap out of Gatti and stop him inside 7 or 8 rounds as well.

Miguel Cotto would really beat the hell out of Gatti and he'd stop him in the 5th

Katsidis is as evenly matched with Gatti as most anybody else. I can see those two splitting a fight with each other and having a rubber match...I get the feeling Gatti's superior boxing skill would allow him to get the edge on his best nights against Katsidis. If he gets drawn into an all out slugfest, it could go either way.

I think Gatti'd last longer than 5 with Cotto; all his jr. welter title victims did except for Corley.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

The only one he would be competitive with is Katsidis, but he would lose that too.

Castillo, Hatton & Cotto would have mutilated him, brutal mismatches.

[MEISINGER]

gatti loses them all
but he goes out swinging we all enjoyed watching
his fights he was a human high light reel

but in the end he was a good solid fighter but not elite

[Jpreisser]

I agree that all of them would have beaten(especially Castillo) Gatti, minus maybe Katsidis.... maybe. Depends on what Gatti showed up. Gatti-Katsidis would have been a helluva match up though. Those two would have beaten the crap out of each other.

[thunderfromdownunder]

I'd favour Hatton over gatti. But I don't think it would be a mismatch.

[Ambling Alp II]

Having followed the latter part of Gatti's career, I recently sat down to watch his career. The man deserved his moniker of the human highlight reel. So many fights that were great. Then it got me thinking what if Gatti had fought these following men who were equally happy for a tear up:
Diego Corrales at LW
Jose Luis Castillo at LW
Ricky Hatton at LWW
Miguel Cotto at LWW
and Michael Katsidis at catchweight.

How do we all think these fights would have panned out other than the obvious "fight of the year"

You must be new here; Gatti is a favorite for some people to rip.
Not all of these guys were willing to consistently fight quality opponents like Gatti. Gatti was not a great fighter, but he was good and at times very good. He would probably lose to Corrales,Castillo, and Cotto. He would have a good chance vs Hatton and Katsidis.

[thunderfromdownunder]

Having followed the latter part of Gatti's career, I recently sat down to watch his career. The man deserved his moniker of the human highlight reel. So many fights that were great. Then it got me thinking what if Gatti had fought these following men who were equally happy for a tear up:
Diego Corrales at LW
Jose Luis Castillo at LW
Ricky Hatton at LWW
Miguel Cotto at LWW
and Michael Katsidis at catchweight.

How do we all think these fights would have panned out other than the obvious "fight of the year"

You must be new here; Gatti is a favorite for some people to rip.
Not all of these guys were willing to consistently fight quality opponents like Gatti. Gatti was not a great fighter, but he was good and at times very good. He would probably lose to Corrales,Castillo, and Cotto. He would have a good chance vs Hatton and Katsidis.

I agree. Gatti fought a pretty high level of comp throughout his career. I bet if Hatton fought the same guys he's record would be similar to arturos. Gatti would have a chance v Hatton. I think Ricky would prevail. But it would be a war while it lasted

[misterpunch]

gatti might beat katsidis out of this bunch but the others destroy him

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Having followed the latter part of Gatti's career, I recently sat down to watch his career. The man deserved his moniker of the human highlight reel. So many fights that were great. Then it got me thinking what if Gatti had fought these following men who were equally happy for a tear up:
Diego Corrales at LW
Jose Luis Castillo at LW
Ricky Hatton at LWW
Miguel Cotto at LWW
and Michael Katsidis at catchweight.

How do we all think these fights would have panned out other than the obvious "fight of the year"

You must be new here; Gatti is a favorite for some people to rip.
Not all of these guys were willing to consistently fight quality opponents like Gatti. Gatti was not a great fighter, but he was good and at times very good. He would probably lose to Corrales,Castillo, and Cotto. He would have a good chance vs Hatton and Katsidis.

I bet if Hatton fought the same guys he's record would be similar to arturos.

I'd sure take that bet. I don't see Ivan Robinson or Angel Manfredy whipping Hatton. Conversely Gatti would get wrecked by Tszyu & Castillo, even the post prime versions that Ricky fought.

[Rover]

I don't see Hatton going life-and-death with Rodriguez and Ruelas, either, nor do I see Hatton fighting Branco to a 7-5 type of decision. Nor do I see Hatton losing to Ward or going life and death with him.

[Jpreisser]

I'd sure take that bet. I don't see Ivan Robinson or Angel Manfredy whipping Hatton. Conversely Gatti would get wrecked by Tszyu & Castillo, even the post prime versions that Ricky fought.

Absolutely. Tszyu would have fvcking obliterated Gatti. Hatton was a higher caliber fighter than Gatti. They fought a common opponent in Joe Hutchinson; Gatti wide UD [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W41brwkd ... 8DF9FC65D6 ], Hatton KO4 from a crushing body shot [ http://youtu.be/Tbcc3nq7OAY ] .

[Ambling Alp II]

Notice the comments are about what Hatton would have done against Gatti's opponents. As usualy there is little talk about all of Hatton' "great" wins. Easy to say Hatton would have beaten so many of Gatti's oponents since he didn't fight many of them. If Hatton was fighting all of these guys, he would have several more losses.

[Rover]

Notice the comments are about what Hatton would have done against Gatti's opponents. As usualy there is little talk about all of Hatton' "great" wins. Easy to say Hatton would have beaten so many of Gatti's oponents since he didn't fight many of them. If Hatton was fighting all of these guys, he would have several more losses.

Tszyu was better than anyone Gatti ever beat.
Whom would Hatton have lost to that Gatti beat?
I'd favor him against everyone Gatti fought below welter except for Floyd.
I think Hatton well could've beaten Baldomir at welter, though he'd obviously lose to DLH. I think Hatton would've beaten Gomez--granted, not a monumental accomplishment.

[Ambling Alp II]

Tysyu was 35 and past it when he fought Hatton. Yet this is by far the win that people talk about the most regarding Hatton's career. That speaks volumes right there.
If Hatton fought Patterson twice,Ward 3x, Dorin, he would not have run the table. Only a disutable loss to Ward in their first fight prevented Gatti from doing that.

Gatti was a good and at times very good fighter. Like Hatton, he wasn't in the class of the really elite fighters.
However, Gatti fought many good fighters throughout his career. Sometimes they were for WBS titles and sometimes they were not. Sometimes he won and sometimes he lost.
Gatti was not a legend or anything like that. However, he does not deserve to be ripped so often. He went out of his way to take on serious competition (sometimes taking on good fighters multiple times). You can't say that about very many fighters in the last couple of decades.

[Rover]

Tysyu was 35 and past it when he fought Hatton. Yet this is by far the win that people talk about the most regarding Hatton's career. That speaks volumes right there.
If Hatton fought Patterson twice,Ward 3x, Dorin, he would not have run the table. Only a disutable loss to Ward in their first fight prevented Gatti from doing that.

Gatti was a good and at times very good fighter. Like Hatton, he wasn't in the class of the really elite fighters.
However, Gatti fought many good fighters throughout his career. Sometimes they were for WBS titles and sometimes they were not. Sometimes he won and sometimes he lost.
Gatti was not a legend or anything like that. However, he does not deserve to be ripped so often. He went out of his way to take on serious competition (sometimes taking on good fighters multiple times). You can't say that about very many fighters in the last couple of decades.

Patterson was a super featherweight; I have no doubt Hatton would've beaten him.
Dorin was a light-punching lightweight; again, no doubt Hatton would've beaten him.
It speaks volumes that you cite these wins involving fighters who accomplished nothing at jr. welter.
And that leaves Ward. Again, I'd pick Hatton with confidence.
There wouldn't need to be three fights; I doubt there'd need to be two. Ricky by clear decision.
Tszyu>Patterson.
Tszyu>Dorin.
Tszyu>Ward.
It isn't even close.
And Tszyu looked very good in his prior fight v. Mitchell. Age is a number; just saying "he was 35" doesn't really say much. And that version of Tszyu was by far better than anyone Gatti ever beat.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Notice the comments are about what Hatton would have done against Gatti's opponents. As usualy there is little talk about all of Hatton' "great" wins. Easy to say Hatton would have beaten so many of Gatti's oponents since he didn't fight many of them. If Hatton was fighting all of these guys, he would have several more losses.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Collazo would have smashed Gatti, Urango might have too.

[Rover]

Collazo would have smashed Gatti, Urango might have too.

Agreed. I'd actually favor Urango.

[Ambling Alp II]

Tysyu was 35 and past it when he fought Hatton. Yet this is by far the win that people talk about the most regarding Hatton's career. That speaks volumes right there.
If Hatton fought Patterson twice,Ward 3x, Dorin, he would not have run the table. Only a disutable loss to Ward in their first fight prevented Gatti from doing that.

Gatti was a good and at times very good fighter. Like Hatton, he wasn't in the class of the really elite fighters.
However, Gatti fought many good fighters throughout his career. Sometimes they were for WBS titles and sometimes they were not. Sometimes he won and sometimes he lost.
Gatti was not a legend or anything like that. However, he does not deserve to be ripped so often. He went out of his way to take on serious competition (sometimes taking on good fighters multiple times). You can't say that about very many fighters in the last couple of decades.

Patterson was a super featherweight; I have no doubt Hatton would've beaten him.
Dorin was a light-punching lightweight; again, no doubt Hatton would've beaten him.
It speaks volumes that you cite these wins involving fighters who accomplished nothing at jr. welter.
And that leaves Ward. Again, I'd pick Hatton with confidence.
There wouldn't need to be three fights; I doubt there'd need to be two. Ricky by clear decision.
Tszyu>Patterson.
Tszyu>Dorin.
Tszyu>Ward.
It isn't even close.
And Tszyu looked very good in his prior fight v. Mitchell. Age is a number; just saying "he was 35" doesn't really say much. And that version of Tszyu was by far better than anyone Gatti ever beat.

Tszyu was way past it when he fought Hatton. That version wasn't better than Patterson, Dorin, Ward. Yes age is a number. Virtually every fighter is worse at the age of 35 than they were in their late 20s. A fighter's reflexes, spped, stamina declines as he gets older. This isn't exactly a new discovery.

And yes Gatti (anywhere near his prime) would have beaten Urango and Luis Collazo. An ancient Shane Mosley beat Collazo easily after Hatton barely beat Collazo.Collazo was a very ordinary fighter.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

That is one woeful post. Mosley had many years left at the top and Collazo was badly injured. Shane and Gatti shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath, that would be another one sided stoppage like Gatti versus any great fighter. You're always pinpointing an exact age like it isn't case by case. That makes you virtually impossible to talk to. Kostya was way better at 35 than Gatti could dream of being at any point in his life.. Arturo isn't capable of competing at that level, Collazo would have kicked his teeth in.

[gilgamesh]

Collazo would've definitely beat Gatti, Gatti never really fought well at Welterweight, in fact his only victory at that weight was Thomas Daamgard who was never anything special anyhow. I think he could outbox Urango, Urango would occasionally give him some shaky moments and possibly drop him late if he could draw Gatti into a slugfest, but if Gatti remembered to keep using his legs, he'd outbox Urango. Urango was a very ordinary fighter, and his power was often exaggerated. Gatti's one of my all time favorite fighters for sentimental reasons, but I'm not delusional about his skill level.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Nice post.

I was a fan of Gatti's too, I think everyone was. But, like you, I'm not going to pretend he was better than he was. Urango would be interesting, the rest of those guys would steamroll him.