Sonny Liston:The Champ That Nobody Wanted(documentery)

[Brutu]

Here is an intersting documentery that was made in 2000.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQP2slQmiaY

[matko]

Great documentary thank you how do u think he died? And do you think it was a phantom punch in the rematch or genuine?

[Brutu]

maybe he died from a hot shot somewhere else in Las Vegas,then taken to his house when
he was still unconcious and placed on his bed to be discovered later.

[matko]

Yea makes sense what about the rematch was is genuine or dive?

[Brutu]

Wasnt a major fight.
Sonny Liston was only paid 13K at the most.
Why would he further set back his career if his goal was to fight again for the heavyweight championship
of the world?
unless he was threatend to be black-mailed about something to lose a peanuts fight with Chuck Wepner?
If if it was planned to be fixed,how much could have been made if Liston did take a dive?
Chuck Wepner had already lost to George Foreman and four other fighters going into that fight.
It may have been an upset,but no really big money bet on that fight(as far as I know),iand if he had it would have been suspicious.

[matko]

Wasnt a major fight.
Sonny Liston was only paid 13K at the most.
Why would he further set back his career if his goal was to fight again for the heavyweight championship
of the world?
unless he was threatend to be black-mailed about something to lose a peanuts fight with Chuck Wepner?
If if it was planned to be fixed,how much could have been made if Liston did take a dive?
Chuck Wepner had already lost to George Foreman and four other fighters going into that fight.
It may have been an upset,but no really big money bet on that fight(as far as I know),iand if he had it would have been suspicious.

Yea your right and when watching the video he does get caught flush just he rolls around a little and doesn't manage to rise on the long count which seemed like maybe a flash knockdown at 1st watch

[matko]

Also talk of something being used on the gloves to not only blind Ali but other opponents like zora folley etc which seems to coincidental so prob was correct