Larry Holmes versus the WBA champs ?

funso banjo baby · Post by **funso banjo baby** » 19 Dec 2012, 11:37

first time around as undisputed king

which fight would have been worth seeing when the following were WBA kings

MEISINGER · Post by **MEISINGER** » 19 Dec 2012, 12:20

i would of paid big bucks to see all of them.
but larry would of won them all

witherspoon · Post by **witherspoon** » 19 Dec 2012, 14:43

I voted for Page. Holmes v an out of shape Witherspoon is depressing to contemplate.

max hord · Post by **max hord** » 20 Dec 2012, 15:17

Holmes beats all of em

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 20 Dec 2012, 16:19

Larry already beat the best one on his best night (Witherspoon).

Page is one of those where it could be a competitive intriguing fight if Page showed up to fight, but I think in reality he would've fought a defensive stinker.

Most entertaing fight of the bunch would've probably been Coatzee.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 15 Jan 2013, 14:00

If Page was motivated, and fought a more aggressive fight, and the biggest thing, in shape, he whups Larry.

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 15 Jan 2013, 16:15

Nile4000 wrote:If Page was motivated, and fought a more aggressive fight, and the biggest thing, in shape, he whups Larry.

Seriously? I've never seen any version of Page that would have beaten Holmes. Which fight would you say best shows the in shape, motivated, aggressive Page?

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 19 Jan 2013, 13:59

Flump wrote:
Nile4000 wrote:If Page was motivated, and fought a more aggressive fight, and the biggest thing, in shape, he whups Larry.
Seriously? I've never seen any version of Page that would have beaten Holmes. Which fight would you say best shows the in shape, motivated, aggressive Page?

Renaldo Snipes

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 22 Jan 2013, 14:31

And to go a little further back, Marty Monroe.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 22 Jan 2013, 14:33

I watched George Chaplin dominate Page twice, Holmes would do the same and the judges wouldn't rob him.

Adamj1987 · Post by **Adamj1987** » 22 Jan 2013, 14:34

larry would of beat them all it was only the speed of spinks that could beat him and none of them were as fast as spinks

Crease · Post by **Crease** » 22 Jan 2013, 14:35

Out of that list, I only see Page and Witherspoon giving Larry problems.

I don't give Coetzee or Dokes much chance of beating him.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 22 Jan 2013, 14:36

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I watched George Chaplin dominate Page twice, Holmes would do the same and the judges wouldn't rob him.

Page edged the first one, the second fight was more of a draw.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 22 Jan 2013, 21:29

Nile4000 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I watched George Chaplin dominate Page twice, Holmes would do the same and the judges wouldn't rob him.

Page edged the first one, the second fight was more of a draw.

Page didn't win enough rounds in the two fights combined to earn a decision in one of them. Two massive robberies.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 22 Jan 2013, 21:38

I had Chaplin winning both times as well. Page had a solid chin, good power, but he could get damn lazy in the ring at times.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 22 Jan 2013, 21:47

The only reason there was a rematch was because everybody knew that Page lost the first one, then they screwed Chaplin even worse.

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 23 Jan 2013, 09:36

I think the fact that people are talking about Page getting gifts against George Chaplin, a solid journeyman at best, tells you all about his chances against Holmes. One sided UD with Page in survival mode IMO.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 23 Jan 2013, 14:55

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Nile4000 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I watched George Chaplin dominate Page twice, Holmes would do the same and the judges wouldn't rob him.

Page edged the first one, the second fight was more of a draw.
Page didn't win enough rounds in the two fights combined to earn a decision in one of them. Two massive robberies.

As far as I'm concerned, Chaplin didn't do enough to win the second fight, but neither did Page.Greg had a chance to win this impressively, but coming in 238 didn't help.And Chaplin still couldn't get him out of there.What he did was make Greg look bad, more so than beating him.I don't think Larry had enough firepower to hurt Greg, who along with Tim Witherspoon had the best chin of the elite heavies at that time.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 23 Jan 2013, 15:57

Nile4000 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Nile4000 wrote:

Page edged the first one, the second fight was more of a draw.
Page didn't win enough rounds in the two fights combined to earn a decision in one of them. Two massive robberies.

As far as I'm concerned, Chaplin didn't do enough to win the second fight, but neither did Page.Greg had a chance to win this impressively, but coming in 238 didn't help.And Chaplin still couldn't get him out of there.What he did was make Greg look bad, more so than beating him.I don't think Larry had enough firepower to hurt Greg, who along with Tim Witherspoon had the best chin of the elite heavies at that time.

I've never heard anyone share your opinion. Chaplin wasn't a puncher, what he did was completely out-work Page round after round until he was comprehensively robbed- twice.

Flump · Post by **Flump** » 23 Jan 2013, 16:40

Page edged the first one, the second fight was more of a draw.[/quote]

Page didn't win enough rounds in the two fights combined to earn a decision in one of them. Two massive robberies.[/quote]

As far as I'm concerned, Chaplin didn't do enough to win the second fight, but neither did Page.Greg had a chance to win this impressively, but coming in 238 didn't help.And Chaplin still couldn't get him out of there.What he did was make Greg look bad, more so than beating him.I don't think Larry had enough firepower to hurt Greg, who along with Tim Witherspoon had the best chin of the elite heavies at that time.[/quote]

I wouldn't be sure on that, Holmes could certainly hit enough to discourage Page. Besides Holmes didn't need to hurt Page, he'd have comfortably outboxed him.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 23 Jan 2013, 16:58

Agreed, and Page isn't going to hurt Holmes with anything. It would be competitive for a bit until Greg started to gas about halfway through, then jabs and right hands over and over. 11-4ish decision assuming Page is at his absolute best.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 24 Jan 2013, 19:26

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Agreed, and Page isn't going to hurt Holmes with anything. It would be competitive for a bit until Greg started to gas about halfway through, then jabs and right hands over and over. 11-4ish decision assuming Page is at his absolute best.

If it's 1983, and Page is in shape, and motivated, he wins in an upset.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 24 Jan 2013, 19:26

Nile4000 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Agreed, and Page isn't going to hurt Holmes with anything. It would be competitive for a bit until Greg started to gas about halfway through, then jabs and right hands over and over. 11-4ish decision assuming Page is at his absolute best.

If it's 1983, and Page is in shape, and motivated, he wins in an upset.

So you say, though your cards for the Chaplin robberies make it difficult for me to take you for more than just a huge Page fan.

Nile4000 · Post by **Nile4000** » 24 Jan 2013, 19:28

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Nile4000 wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Agreed, and Page isn't going to hurt Holmes with anything. It would be competitive for a bit until Greg started to gas about halfway through, then jabs and right hands over and over. 11-4ish decision assuming Page is at his absolute best.

If it's 1983, and Page is in shape, and motivated, he wins in an upset.
So you say.

Yep, even though I'm a Page man, I'm wise enough to know his weaknesses, and the fact that, for a brief moment of time, he had enough to beat Larry Holmes in a fight.But his head wasn't on right.

SaadOffTheDeck · Post by **SaadOffTheDeck** » 24 Jan 2013, 19:28