Who Holds the record for Middleweight title defenses?

[gilgamesh]

To drive a point home even further I'm creating this thread. Who holds the record for Middleweight title defenses?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Talk about beating a dead horse. New threads on something irrelevant to our discussion?

[gilgamesh]

I already explained the relevance to you, if you don't see how it's relevant...I don't even have to say anything, the point is quite clear and everybody else will see it except you.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I already explained the relevance to you, if you don't see how it's relevant...I don't even have to say anything, the point is quite clear and everybody else will see it except you.

Start 50 threads if you want. Hopkins/Monzon has zilch to do with Wlad and Joe Louis. Everyone will see that you're on some childish bullshit, but I can draw that kind of nonsensical behavior out of people. Add yourself to the list.

[gilgamesh]

I haven't launched any personal insults your way, I've simply disagreed with you and made my points. Who's being childish here is obvious.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I haven't launched any personal insults your way, I've simply disagreed with you and made my points. Who's being childish here is obvious.

Indeed it is, you turned a Joe Louis/Wlad discussion into Hopkins/Monzon. Pouted endlessly when I wanted to stay on topic, proclaimed victory like you won the lottery and announced you were finished, then went into another forum and posed the same shit you were pouting about there.

I especially like how you make no mention of lineal/undisputed, just title defenses.

[gilgamesh]

I did acknowledge lineal/undisputed. Whenever you said Wladimir wasn't undisputed champion until he beat Ibragimov, the very first thing I said after the first time you said that was "I agree with you"

I acknowledge your points and you ignore mine pretending they're irrelevant because they prove my point.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I did acknowledge lineal/undisputed.

This is the first you mentioned it in this thread. Not that I care, this topic carries no interest to me. I responded to someone about Wlad chasing Joe Louis. After they got owned they had to switch gears.

[gilgamesh]

Just because you're going to get the last word, doesn't make you right Saad. Anybody can see who's won this argument.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I did acknowledge lineal/undisputed. Whenever you said Wladimir wasn't undisputed champion until he beat Ibragimov, the very first thing I said after the first time you said that was "I agree with you"

I acknowledge your points and you ignore mine pretending they're irrelevant because they prove my point.

You said you agreed and then you backdated 4 defenses. I ignore your points about Hopkins/Monzon because it's a completely different topic. After Leonard beat Hagler and things fragmented there isn't a clear line. You can't lump different situations into one.

Louis was very clearly the man for 25 defenses.
Wlad very clearly was not until he beat Ibragimov.

That's it dude, you should agree because it's not debatable. He's made 9 defenses of the true title, not 13. The rest of this was just you shying away from being wrong. Whatever makes you feel better. Though I find it out you're finished in the topic that actually carries the conversation and still humping on in the one that doesn't.

Anyway, enjoy your irrelevant poll.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Just because you're going to get the last word, doesn't make you right Saad. Anybody can see who's won this argument.

Yup, you got your ass handed to you.

[gilgamesh]

Just because you're going to get the last word, doesn't make you right Saad. Anybody can see who's won this argument.

Yup, you got your ass handed to you.

Clearly I didn't.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Just because you're going to get the last word, doesn't make you right Saad. Anybody can see who's won this argument.

Yup, you got your ass handed to you.

Clearly I didn't.

You stated in this very thread that you agree with me. It doesn't get any easier to judge than that.

[BoxBuzz]

Crackin' good fight it would make, I'd give just about anything to watch Bernard take the sound beating that would surely come his way.

[Rover]

Crackin' good fight it would make, I'd give just about anything to watch Bernard take the sound beating that would surely come his way.

I'd pick Monzon by close decision, but I don't think Bernard would take a sound beating.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I haven't launched any personal insults your way, I've simply disagreed with you and made my points. Who's being childish here is obvious.

That is his usual MO, it appears its taken you quite a while to notice that.

The guy is a halfwit, just like all bullies. But as he's the one stalking you, it's quite clear who is winning your little disputes.

Just laugh to yourself while being magnanimous.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Just remaining magnanimous while you stalk, insult and troll me.

[Rover]

Just remaining magnanimous while you stalk, insult and troll me.

[Ezzard]

Monzon...is this really debatable?

[gilgamesh]

I should have known better than to have the boxrec faithful answer a simple question. Nevermind fellas. We'll call it a draw I guess Saad, even though I was right.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I should have known better than to have the boxrec faithful answer a simple question. Nevermind fellas. We'll call it a draw I guess Saad, even though I was right.

I didn't even vote in this poll. You were, and are, completely wrong. The fact that this irrelevant poll has led you to a draw is just more odd behavior. I was hoping you were drunk yesterday.

[gilgamesh]

I'm over it Saad. I know what I was saying had merit and I know I was right. I'm through arguing about it.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I'm over it Saad. I know what I was saying had merit and I know I was right. I'm through arguing about it.

You're delusional as can be. Your merit was that everyone in the world would pick Hopkins as the one with the most Middleweight defenses. That was your silly reasoning as to why it had any bearing on Wlad/Louis. Now that you see you're wrong about that, you can't even admit that this was a useless point to our discussion? After all the shit you talked?

You should be over it. You got owned so badly that you agreed with me before you went off on a tangent with all of this bullshit that added nothing to the debate, that you lost badly to begin with.

I didn't even bother to get into Chagaev, which is a better debate than Byrd.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Just remaining magnanimous while you stalk, insult and troll me.

There are people that can help those with similar problems to yours. Although i am flattered that you stalk me, i have to inform you that the male of the human species doesn't do it for me, sorry about that.

You could just keep stalking others, i'm sure there will be someone who will appreciate it.

A good means of not being "stalked" would be if you stopped following me around, quoting me and begging for my attention.

[gilgamesh]

Only 14 votes, surely we can do better than that.