Hardest body punchers from high quality TV era?

IronKidDynamite · Post by **IronKidDynamite** » 08 Oct 2005, 18:12

Which fighters hit hardest with one bodypunch? In other words not really guys who just threw a lot of bodypunches i mean guys like Gerald McClellan who could knock guys out with single bodyshots because they were so powerful?

I'm no expert but i remember McClellan had hardest left hook to body ive ever seen. He knocked out Jay Bell with single left hook to ribs in 30 seconds, and also the KO over Jackson the second time was a left hook to the body. There were more cant remember names.

I say high quality TV era because don't give me some example of some fighter in 1940s or something, i actually want fights I can purchase and watch on tape with high quality.

And please give examples of the actual fights which prove the boxer is worthy.

-KOKid- · Post by **-KOKid-** » 08 Oct 2005, 18:43

Vasily Jirov used to deliver some wicked bodypunches during his reign at Cruiserweight. I especially remember Arthur Williams doubling over in pain in their 1999 fight.
Also, James Toney hurt Holyfield bad to the body in their fight.
Roy Jones vs. Richard Hall and Virgil Hill also comes to mind.

-KOKid-

IronKidDynamite · Post by **IronKidDynamite** » 08 Oct 2005, 19:08

-KOKid- wrote:Vasily Jirov used to deliver some wicked bodypunches during his reign at Cruiserweight. I especially remember Arthur Williams doubling over in pain in their 1999 fight.
Also, James Toney hurt Holyfield bad to the body in their fight.
Roy Jones vs. Richard Hall and Virgil Hill also comes to mind.

-KOKid-

No i mean like huge one-punch bodypunch fighters. Toney and Jirov were never big punchers, in fact their fight together was just a long fight of short medium-power punches.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 08 Oct 2005, 19:46

I'd have to go with Jirov as well. Besides Williams he also did Dale Brown with one shot to the body. Two guys I watched that fight with actually jumped and yelled that it was a low blow. Instant replay proved it wasen't.

wlvrne · Post by **wlvrne** » 08 Oct 2005, 20:19

didn't Mickey Ward drop someone with one body shot? Or was that the other way around?

dnahar32 · Post by **dnahar32** » 08 Oct 2005, 20:34

Shane Mosley destroyed guys at lightweight with hellacious body punching. He nearly decapitated John-John Molina with body shots in that fight. At his best, Shane Mosley threw body shots with bad intentions.

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 08 Oct 2005, 21:10

Arguello was a totally vicious body puncher. He made Boza Edwards shit himself in the ring with one. He threw those great uppercuts to the body.

klompton · Post by **klompton** » 08 Oct 2005, 22:06

Mosely is a good call. He really went downhill when he stopped punching to the body. He got all of his knockouts with a solid foundation of bodywork. He somehow tricked himself into thinking he was a big puncher and started headhunting. He hasnt been the same since.

Anyone remember that bodypunch to Shannon Taylor that picked Taylor off the floor? You could almost hear Taylor shit his pants on that one.

-KOKid- · Post by **-KOKid-** » 09 Oct 2005, 01:40

IronKidDynamite wrote:No i mean like huge one-punch bodypunch fighters. Toney and Jirov were never big punchers, in fact their fight together was just a long fight of short medium-power punches.

On two ocasions I have seen Jirov drop his opponent for the full count because of a single bodyshot. Someone mentioned Dale Brown. The other one was Terry McGroom, who got nailed with a solar plexus punch.
Arturo Gatti's one punch to the body KO against Leonard Dorin also comes to mind.

-KOKid-

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 09 Oct 2005, 01:47

wlvrne wrote:didn't Mickey Ward drop someone with one body shot? Or was that the other way around?

ahh great choice wlvrne.

ward agaisnt alfonzo sanchez in 97 was losing badly on points, basically lost the first 6 rounds. then one left hook to the liver knocked him down and out for the count.

- ward had a devastating left hook to the liver. in the first gatti fight, he floored gatti with it, god knows how gatti got up from it. also in the rematch, ward froze gatti badly in the 3rd round wit ha left hook to the liver.

ward knocked people down or out a lot with the left to the liver

wlvrne · Post by **wlvrne** » 09 Oct 2005, 02:35

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:
wlvrne wrote:didn't Mickey Ward drop someone with one body shot? Or was that the other way around?
ahh great choice wlvrne.

ward agaisnt alfonzo sanchez in 97 was losing badly on points, basically lost the first 6 rounds. then one left hook to the liver knocked him down and out for the count.

- ward had a devastating left hook to the liver. in the first gatti fight, he floored gatti with it, god knows how gatti got up from it. also in the rematch, ward froze gatti badly in the 3rd round wit ha left hook to the liver.

ward knocked people down or out a lot with the left to the liver

Thanks Brockton. I swear I have that fight somewhere, just have to find the tape. Yeah, Ol' Mickey was getting outboxed all fight and pulled that ace outta his glove and laid it on the guy. AWESOME.

wlvrne · Post by **wlvrne** » 09 Oct 2005, 02:39

-KOKid- wrote:
IronKidDynamite wrote:No i mean like huge one-punch bodypunch fighters. Toney and Jirov were never big punchers, in fact their fight together was just a long fight of short medium-power punches.

On two ocasions I have seen Jirov drop his opponent for the full count because of a single bodyshot. Someone mentioned Dale Brown. The other one was Terry McGroom, who got nailed with a solar plexus punch.
Arturo Gatti's one punch to the body KO against Leonard Dorin also comes to mind.

-KOKid-

These KO's occurred only because Jirov had pulverized their mid-sections all night. Technically, it was an acumulation of damge that did it. I watch Jirov's fights on tape still, because my daughter and I appreciate how commited to body work Jirov was. This guy never should have left the Cruiser division.

-KOKid- · Post by **-KOKid-** » 09 Oct 2005, 03:46

The Brown fight maybe, but the McGroom KO happened in the first round. I think maybe he KO'd Alex Gonzalez or Earl Butler the same way. I'd have to check my tapes to be sure first.

Agree that he never should have left the cruiserweight division, who lost it's two best fighters at the same time when both Toney and Jirov moved up to heavyweight after their splendid fight which finally brought some attention to 190 lbs.

-KOKid-

ebeneezer · Post by **ebeneezer** » 09 Oct 2005, 14:11

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:
wlvrne wrote:didn't Mickey Ward drop someone with one body shot? Or was that the other way around?
ahh great choice wlvrne.

ward agaisnt alfonzo sanchez in 97 was losing badly on points, basically lost the first 6 rounds. then one left hook to the liver knocked him down and out for the count.

- ward had a devastating left hook to the liver. in the first gatti fight, he floored gatti with it, god knows how gatti got up from it. also in the rematch, ward froze gatti badly in the 3rd round wit ha left hook to the liver.

ward knocked people down or out a lot with the left to the liver

ward also scored a devastating body shot KO over shea neary.

ferocity · Post by **ferocity** » 09 Oct 2005, 21:36

Marco Antonio Barrera, when he was younger and undefeated he would knockout some of his opponet with one body shot. He used to throw some sick, body shots. Once he lost he was more boxing savy, and more of an all around fighter.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 09 Oct 2005, 22:24

Ward may have had the most effective consisitent liver shot of any fighter I've seen. He shopped that shot like most guys wait to deliver a hook to the head. McCallum another. Hamed discoved it and tried his best to turn it into his effective weapon, never quite worked out for him though.

I don't think anyone Ward fought got out of fight without getting stung a few tmes with it and it almost always had effect.

klompton · Post by **klompton** » 09 Oct 2005, 22:50

The funny thing about Wards left to the liver is that if you watch him closely he usually turns southpaw to throw it, so it isnt strictly speaking a left hook. He has a very odd way of throwing it.

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 10 Oct 2005, 01:36

dnahar....nearly decapitating an opponent with a body punch would have to be the most devastating body punch of all time.

"crap... i thought i had him there, but then he hit me in the gut and damn near took my head off."

not supposed to dip back into the past here, but the tape of zale/graziano III is of very good quality, and it shows zale's murderous left hook to the body...plus his right hand shot....just as poweful.

of recent ones, i'll go along with those who say micky ward.

dnahar32 · Post by **dnahar32** » 10 Oct 2005, 04:30

Jaclem wrote:dnahar....nearly decapitating an opponent with a body punch would have to be the most devastating body punch of all time.

"crap... i thought i had him there, but then he hit me in the gut and damn near took my head off."

Jaclem,

Just a little hyperbole amongst boxing friends. :)

At lightweight, Shane did throw hard body shots and made an effort to put his full leverage and power into them.

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 10 Oct 2005, 10:10

Did anyone mention the Body snatcher Mike McCallum???...also Barry McGuigan had a wicked left hook to the body as did McClellan. Ray Leonard could bang to the body fierce. I think that was a factor in him beating Hearns in 1981. Hearns also threw lightning fast hooks to the body. f the current crop of fighters I like Hatton's body shots....accurate and powerful and ver frequent....

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 10 Oct 2005, 15:59

dna..and friends we are, indeed. i thought you made a good selection..and one not obvious. he was (maybe still is ) a tough body puncher...and it was a factor not obvious as his other boxing skills were the ones usually commented on.

a question.....if he was primarily a head hunter, could he break a guy's ribs by hitting him on the chin? :P

theone · Post by **theone** » 10 Oct 2005, 19:10

Julio Cesar Chavez. Greatest body puncher of all time.

Rafael · Post by **Rafael** » 10 Oct 2005, 19:37

dnahar32 wrote:Shane Mosley destroyed guys at lightweight with hellacious body punching. He nearly decapitated John-John Molina with body shots in that fight. At his best, Shane Mosley threw body shots with bad intentions.

My main association of Mosley and body punching actually comes from that famous little whimper he let out when Forrest hit him with a body punch. There is no crying in boxing!

Rafael · Post by **Rafael** » 10 Oct 2005, 19:39

-KOKid- wrote:Arturo Gatti's one punch to the body KO against Leonard Dorin also comes to mind.

Gatti was KO'd by a Tracy Harris-Patterson body shot that the referee incorrectly ruled as low.

Rafael · Post by **Rafael** » 10 Oct 2005, 19:53

Pedroza threw a mean left hook/bolo to the body that often times strayed into Tijuana. The curiuos thing about that shot was that he often used it as a lead punch, which you rarely see these days.

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