SBW v Frans Botha

[Aussiedave]

I think this is wrong to change it from 12 to 10 rounds but look here? I thought Championships were always 12 rounds.

http://boxrec.com/title_search.php?titl ... &SUBMIT=Go

That was edited after the fight. Before and during the fight it was listed as 12.

All bookies had it as 12 as well.

I know that mate i just thought it was always a 12 rounder for Championship fights.

I looked at scheduled on boxrec when they said it was only 10 rounds and boxrec had it at 12.

[conan_the_cribber]

Has to be changed to a NC surely. But then again it is for the WBA "Why bother asking?" belt. The orgnisation with the most belts and scams in boxing.

[funso banjo baby]

this seems pretty dodgy.

was Botha coming on strong ?

post a link if someone gets the fight

[milpool]

this seems pretty dodgy.

was Botha coming on strong ?

post a link if someone gets the fight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip51CTK23GQ

Just a couple of minutes highlights.

[belta53]

this seems pretty dodgy.

was Botha coming on strong ?

post a link if someone gets the fight

Botha started to catch up with SBW in round 9, Botha had been landing some good right hands all night but until then they weren't really having any impression. At the end of round 9 SBW was clearly hurt and on wobbly legs. Then at the start of the 10th the announcement was made by the referee that that would be the final round. SBW was holding on throughout the round, Botha landed some big shots, SBW was in all sorts of trouble and docked a point for holding. SBW basically out on his feet in the 10th, the referee gave SBW a breather and a chance to clear his head when deducting a point for holding. The cornerman for SBW was up on the apron briefly in the last minute of the round, obviously he was ready to throw the towel in if SBW was getting too badly hurt. Somehow SBW made it through the round, very unlikely IMO he would have made it through two more.

[Brute]

Couldn't be bothered watching it, but I believe Adamheight was one of the judges.

What's the story, Adam?

[Brute]

Has to be changed to a NC surely. But then again it is for the WBA "Why bother asking?" belt. The orgnisation with the most belts and scams in boxing.

Strange things happen in Queensland. Seeing who was involved I wonder if the title in question was really vacant?

[Like a Boss]

Adam,

There seems to be a best some 'confusion' as to how many rounds duration the SBW v Botha fight was scheduled for. All the pre-fight publicity and gambling info had it as a 12 round fight. Did not see mention of 10 rounds anywhere and it appears nobody else did either.

When did it become a 10 round fight and when was Botha or one of his representatives notified it was a 10 round fight?

If this is simply a matter of 'confusion' I'm sure you'll put this one to bed quickly by assuring us of the facts.

[N2 Shape]

It was poor, and the people responsible for continuing to muddy boxings name must be given the boot. Where was the WBA supervisor in all of this? IF it was scheduled for 12 there would need to be a contract as the WBa wouldnt sanction a bout without a proper written contract which would have to state the number of rounds. Surely that was signed by both partys, and Botha is claiming is was meant to be 12 so can only assume he signed a 12 round contract!

Another thing, how was SBW sanctioned to fight for the WBA International in the first place? Its the next belt up from the Regional PABA so he bypassed that and went straight to the bigger title the International version after 5 fights. When normally they make a song and dance about guys needing to have had 10 or more wins, and having to have come off a win (Botha lost his last 3.)

$$$ talks

[Beltane]

No doubt the real reason why this imbroglio was staged in Queensland and no where else, is because Queensland is the only Australian state without a legislated body to oversee events, thus allowing Dunny's handlers and associated shonks to pull this rort.

Roosters officials should be choking on their cornflakes now, first seeing that this so-called Adonis tanking fitness wise in the last 2 rounds, and secondly remembering down the foggy ruins of time how Dunny cut and ran away from the Canterbury Bulldogs in his previous Rugby League life.

[dan h]

seems Qld is where Khoder brings the show when he needs to influence judges or do a dodgy...

He has had the first mUNDINE V Geale fight here, and we all know about the judge being influenced in tht fight.

He had mundine fight for the vacant WBA International LMW title, which the fight was never for that title......Also the weigh in was very suspect for this, mundines first fight at LMW..

[mattsplat]

I wonder if SBW wishes the fight didnt stop at 10 rnds. hes going to get a shit storm over this which has taken away from his reasonable effort against a name. if he had gone out there and taken his beating like a man he would have won alot of respect in defeat. but instead hes stuck with a mess despite getting the W. i guess the ring isnt a lonely place if your SBW

[belta53]

It is being reported in the Australian media that Botha's promoter Thinus Strydom was told on the day of the fight that it was to be over 10 rounds. However for some unknown reason he did not tell Botha this news.

It would seem quite a crucial piece of information, surely Botha would be the first person he would tell on learning of this news.

The picture just gets murkier and murkier, and you have to ask yourself who is covering whose tracks?

When are we going to get an official statement from the ANBF?

[polecateddy]

Just do a rematch? It make me laugh reading a Yahoo report of the match. Described Botha as a puncher! Lol

[amwsnw]

Blatant corruption on behalf of the promoter and all those involved in this farce. I placed a bet at the TAB with the knowledge it was a 12 round fight !! SBW would have been ko'd, no doubt there at all. This is how our boxing promoters etc treat a travelled warrior of the sport in Botha....we areb quick to jump on Germany and other countries for their farcical decisions etc, but this is blatant cheating. If Botha's promoter was told, why not tell Botha !! Why not tell the judges, why not announce it during the prefight intro's, why not tell the fox commentators ??

[franky007]

Have a look at the announcers read out of the decision after the so called 12 round fight, they referee raises SBW's arm about 2 seconds before any mention of his name or the blue corner. MASSIVE SETUP!!!

[convict]

I think Botha's promoter would go along with the scam as he needs to get paid first and foremost, Questioning anything may result in delayed funds :?? .

[amwsnw]

Just heard Brad Vocale's interview on Fox Sports. Think that says it all. And just look at Khoder's response to the hard questions....very very defensive. At least the bookies are refunding bets.
I would go as far to say that Khoder and his band or merry men should not be allowed to promote professional boxing contests again. the sooner all of the states boxing commissions act as one and run this fraud out of the sport the better.

[Da Voice]

Just heard Brad Vocale's interview on Fox Sports. Think that says it all. And just look at Khoder's response to the hard questions....very very defensive. At least the bookies are refunding bets.
I would go as far to say that Khoder and his band or merry men should not be allowed to promote professional boxing contests again. the sooner all of the states boxing commissions act as one and run this fraud out of the sport the better.

Ideal person to interview, given he's got issues with Khoder & ANBF Qld

[bollox]

Brilliant...the same week that most major sports in Oz come under severe scrutiny for drug use / cheating, the final nail in boxing credibility's coffin gets hammered in. Couldn't have times it better

[Da Voice]

I find the whole thing (SBW/Botha) quite humorous. Media is all over the joint like a bush shithouse. It's a crap title, so why all the hoopla??

[Mark pawsey]

I find the whole thing (SBW/Botha) quite humorous. Media is all over the joint like a bush shithouse. It's a crap title, so why all the hoopla??

What are you talking about? The fight wasnt for a Title it wasnt sanctioned by the WBA & they didn't get the belt from the WBA, so the WBA has nothing to do with it. I think the the funniest thing to come out if this is how Sonny Bill said that the judges were corrupt in the Mundine fight, than this happens.

[Da Voice]

I find the whole thing (SBW/Botha) quite humorous. Media is all over the joint like a bush shithouse. It's a crap title, so why all the hoopla??

What are you talking about? The fight wasnt for a Title it wasnt sanctioned by the WBA & they didn't get the belt from the WBA, so the WBA has nothing to do with it. I think the the funniest thing to come out if this is how Sonny Bill said that the judges were corrupt in the Mundine fight, than this happens.

I'm well aware WBA & WBA International are miles apart. Whether WBA International sanctioned the fight remains to be seen. Same applies to this fight http://boxrec.com/show_display.php?show_id=664545

[AT MAGIC]

Does anyone think botha won the fight? i had it 96-93 SBW still waiting on the real reason why it was 10

[Rogue]

Backed a horse today and if only the stewards stopped the race 200 m out from the winning post , would have been partying.... Where's SBW when you really want him? Also next time the Roosters play and leading by a point , maybe they'll stop the clock or sabotage the power at SFS.... LMFAO