2013 Independence cup

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This starts tomorrow and is worth noting as Cuba and the US both send strong teams.It is a long time since the two countries competed in a non-championship tournament.
Cuba's team is
49 Yosvani Veitia
56 Robeisis Ramirez
60 Ivan Onate
64 Yasnier Toledo
69 Rosniel Iglesias
75 Yasiel Despaigne
81 J C Da Cruz
+91Erislandi Savon
Should be good
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Canada
49 Emilion Boucher
56 Kenny Lally
60 Justin Hocko
60 Alex Rynn
64 Yves Ulysses
69 Custio Clayton
75 Brody Blair
75 Vincent Thibault
81 Jonathan Savard
91 Samir El Mais

US
49 Leroy Devila
52 Shawn Simpson
56 Gary Salazar
60 Kenneth Simms Jr
64 Erickson Lubin
69 Rashidi Ellis
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I'm saying that Lubin surprises Toledo
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No doubt Erickson is a major talent but does he have the experience.
Salazar and Simpson are also champions of the future.
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Dominican team
49 Victor Santillan
Juan Gabriel Medina
52 Dagoberto Aguero
Elvis Rodriguez
56 William Encarcacion
Sparkinson Almontr
60 Luis Salazar
Huascar Ramirez
64 Wellington Arias
69 Raul Sanchez
Joan Santos
81 Joaquim Berroa
91 Manuel De Jesus
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I've seen Salazar a couple Times, that kid is a serious talent he confuses opponents with the way he switches from lefty to right n so effortlessly.I think this kid is the real deal .
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According to an interview with Erickson in this weeks Boxing News Pedro Roque has been working on technique with the US squad.He is teaching the correct way to throw and land the punches that score points and how the scoring system works.
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Brazil team
52 Juliao Neto
Patrick Lourencio
64 Jonathan Conceicao
69 Myke Carvalho
91 Juan Nogueira
+91Jhonny Pereira
They have also sent a team to the Strandja cup which starts tomorrow in Bulgaria
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mike222 wrote:No doubt Erickson is a major talent but does he have the experience.
Salazar and Simpson are also champions of the future.
He definitely isnt very experienced at the international level but the degree of raw talent that I saw out of that kid at the PAL's this past fall was beyond impressive. He is the most naturally talented amateur I have seen in a long time. Right up there with Tremaine Williams.
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Some day one results
56 Elvis Rodriguez DOM 30-9 Alejandro Gonzalez CHI
Hector Marrero Leon PUR 17-15 Gary Salazar USA
Starling Almonte DOM 49-30 Kenny Lally CAN
Saul Rosario PUR 18-9 Jesus Bravo PER
60 Kenneth Simms Jr USA +13-13 Luis Salazar DOM
69 Rashidi Ellis USA 19-9 Carlos Romero GUA
Tomorrow Erickson faces Jonathan Soares from Brazil ,Shawn meets Eddie Valuenza from Guatemala on Wednesday.Leroy is waiting for his opponent to be named.
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mike222 wrote:According to an interview with Erickson in this weeks Boxing News Pedro Roque has been working on technique with the US squad.He is teaching the correct way to throw and land the punches that score points and how the scoring system works.
Hey Mike , do you know if Pedro Roque will be working with the Juniors at the proposed Boxing Camp for The Junior Kids?
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Depends on his commitments but I would expect him to go to the Ukraine with the squad later in the year for the World Juniors.
He does have two other coaches with him in the Dominican republic.
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More Day 1 results
56 Juan Reyes GUA RSC Tafari Ebanks CAY
69 Joan Santos DOM 15-13 Johan Gonzalez VEN
69 Luis Sanchez PUR 14-7 Arturo Izquierdo CRC
69 Custio Clayton CAN +8-8 Luis Garcia PER
69 Myke Carvalho BRA 14-10 Sandy Paulino STGO
69 Rosniel Iglesias CUB 18-9 Antonio Ortiz PUR
69 Raul Sanchez DOM 16-11 Juan Solano SNJ
81 Luis Ramirez DOM 17-13 Alber Ramirez VEN

Women
51 Lucy Valdivia PER 20-9 Paola Chinchilla CRC
Karla Maliocco VEN 17-10 Stefani Barrientos PER
Mildred Cruz DOM 5-0 Aura Equite GUA
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Day 2 results include
132 Kenneth Sims Jr USA +13-13 Luis Salazar DOM
141 Erickson Lubin USA 25-10 Jonathan Soares BRA
Women
132 Queen Underwood USA 15-8 Karen Perez GUA
165 Raquel Miller USA 11-3 Gisala Perez DOM
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More day 2 results
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Newman Almonte DOM 15-8 Abraham Mora CRC
Ivan Onate CUB 15-10 Alex Rynn CAN
Nestor Bravo PUR 13-9 Cristian Lopez GUA
Pierre Phelissier HAI RET Cristian Olivares CHI
Luis Torres VEN 25-11 Pierre Ernabe HAI
Kermin Jimenez STGO 18-9 Emanuel Morales PUR
Danerito De La Rosa PUR 24-10 Justin Hocko CAN
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Rafael Gonzalez VEN 10-7 Michel Ramirez DOM
Brody Blair CAN RSC Luis Garcia GUA
Rafael Fernandez STGO 28-20 Magdiel Cotto PUR
Bryan Rosado PUR 14-11 Vincent Thirault CAN
Junior Castillo DOM 19-5 Jakson Ramirez CRC
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Manuel De Jesus DOM 17-3 Alan Gomez GUA
Samir El Mais CAN 23-13 Miguel Veliz CHI
Sahret Delgado PUR 16-7 Paul Demostene HAI
Juan Nogueira BRA 15-6 Aleixis Garcia STGO
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Some Day 3 results
108 Leroy Davila USA 11-9 Leonel Los Santos PUR
114 Shawn Simpson USA 17-10 Eddy Valuenza GUA
132 Kenneth Sims Jr USA 17-6 Danielitos De La Rosa PUR
141 Erickson Lubin USA W/O Eduardo Sanchez CRC
152 Rashidi Ellis USA 19-13 Luis Sanchez PUR
152 Myke Carvalho BRA 14-7 Custio Clayton CAN
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Semi-finallists
49 Isaac Herrera PER
Leroy Devila USA
Yosvani Veitia CUB Olympian
Junior Almante DOM
52 Jose Rodriguez DOM
Shawn Simpson USA
Victor Castillo DOM
Hector Garcia DOM
56 Alfredo Santiago DOM
Elvis Rodriguez DOM
Juan Reyes GUA
Luis Rosario PUR
60 Ivan Onate CUB
Luis Torres VEN
Kenneth Sims Jr USA
Nestor Bravo PUR
64 Lester Martinez GUA World Youth Silver Medallist
Jose Lopez PUR
Erickson Lubin USA
Yasnier Toledo CUB
69 Joan Santos DOM
Rashidi Ellis USA
Myke Carvalho BRA Olympian
Rosniel Iglesias CUB Olympic Champion
75 Joseph Cherkashyn CHI
Yasiel Despaigne CUB
Rafael Fernandez DOM
Junior Castillo DOM
81 Juan Almonte DOM
Sony Arnaud HAI
Jonathan Sarvad CAN
Julio Cesar Da Cruz CUB World Champion
91 Manuel De Jesus DOM
Samir El Mais CAN
Sahret Delgado PUR
Juan Nogueira BRA
+91 Fernando Munoz PER
Jhonny Pereira BRA
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Well you called it Mr Duqette-sensational
Todays Semis
108 Leroy Devila USA 12-6 Isaac Herrera PER
114 Shawn Simpson USA +6-6 Jose Luis Rodriguez DOM
132 Kenneth Sims Jr USA 16-10 Luis Torres VEN
141 Erickson Lubin USA 20-17 Yasnier Toledo CUB
152 Rashidi Ellis USA 18-11 Jose Santos DOM
Women
132 Kiria Tapia PUR 10-9 Queen Underwood USA
165 Yenebier Guillen 15-9 Raquel Miller USA

FINALS
108 Leroy Devila v Yosvani Veitia CUB
114 Shawn Simpson v Hector Garcia DOM
132 Kenneth Sims v Ivan Onate CUB
141 Erickson Lubin v Jose Luis Rosario PUR
152 Rashidi Ellis v Rosniel Iglesias CUB
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Other finals
56 Alfredo Santiago DOM v Juan Reyes GUA
75 Yasiel Despaigne CUB v Rafael Hernandez DOM
81 Julio Cesar Da Cruz CUB v Juan Carlos Almonte DOM
91 Samir El Mais CAN v Juan Nogeira BRA
+91Erislandi Savon CUB v Jhonny Pereira BRA
Finals start 3PM ET
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T Duquette wrote:
mike222 wrote:No doubt Erickson is a major talent but does he have the experience.
Salazar and Simpson are also champions of the future.
He definitely isnt very experienced at the international level but the degree of raw talent that I saw out of that kid at the PAL's this past fall was beyond impressive. He is the most naturally talented amateur I have seen in a long time. Right up there with Tremaine Williams.
What do you think of the kid Mike. He's got next level talent. Shout out to my home town bro Rashidi Ellis for winning the silver too. We're all very proud of him here in Boston!
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Finals
108 Yosvani Veitia 14-8 Leroy Devila
114 Shawn Simpson 13-11 Hector Luis Garcia
132 Ivan Onate 18-15 Kenneth Sims Jr
141 Erickson Lubin 34-5 Jose Rafael Rosario
152 Rosniel Iglesias 23-12 Rashidi Ellis
Two Gold Three Silver and Two bronze for the US
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He does seem incredibly talented with a long fluid reach but he is still just 17 and there are a hundred different types of styles out there to test him.It would be interesting to see him fight Berinchuk as the Ukrainian never takes a backward step.Iglesias outboxed him at the Olympics but he is a true champion.
He and Shawn will be in my March World rankings.You have to take notice of victories over Olympic medallists especially Cubans.
The US team did well against the Cubans bearing in mind their age and experience.Veitia and Iglesias are world number ones in my lists.
The future looks good for the US-Salazar,Nico,Julian and Maliek eg are really promising.
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mike222 wrote:He does seem incredibly talented with a long fluid reach but he is still just 17 and there are a hundred different types of styles out there to test him.It would be interesting to see him fight Berinchuk as the Ukrainian never takes a backward step.Iglesias outboxed him at the Olympics but he is a true champion.
He and Shawn will be in my March World rankings.You have to take notice of victories over Olympic medallists especially Cubans.
The US team did well against the Cubans bearing in mind their age and experience.Veitia and Iglesias are world number ones in my lists.
The future looks good for the US-Salazar,Nico,Julian and Maliek eg are really promising.
Berinchuk must be the Ukranian that beat Iglesias in the World Championships... That would be an interesting fight, though I would still have to go with Lubin. As far as the US team having a bright future, don't count on it. The cost/benifit analysis of remaining in the amateurs was already leading a number of our top guys to turn pro early, but now with the removal of the headgear you are going to see a lot of these kids turn pro. I don't want to name anybody specifically but I know of 3 people on this team that wont be around much longer because of the removal of the headgear.
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mike222 wrote:Finals
108 Yosvani Veitia 14-8 Leroy Devila
114 Shawn Simpson 13-11 Hector Luis Garcia
132 Ivan Onate 18-15 Kenneth Sims Jr
141 Erickson Lubin 34-5 Jose Rafael Rosario
152 Rosniel Iglesias 23-12 Rashidi Ellis
Two Gold Three Silver and Two bronze for the US
Is that a misprint Lubin 34-5 over Rosario in the Final
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No misprint 34-5 was the score-perhaps should have been stopped.
Other finals
56 Juan Reyes GUA 9-8 Alfredo Santiago DOM
75 Yasiel Despaigne CUB 18-6 Rafael Hernandez DOM
81 Julio Cesar Da Cruz CUB STP Juan Carlos Almonte DOM
91 Samir El Mais CAN 12-11 Juan Nogueira BRA
+91Erislandy Savon CUB STP Jhonny Pereira BRA
Well done to Samir
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