Serrano/Lockridge.

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Serrano/Lockridge.

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These two jr. light champs just missed each other. I think that Rocky would've stopped Serrano eventually after having lost some rounds and being behind on points.
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Have to agree with you on stoppage, around the 11th, but I think Rocky would have been ahead. I can see him losing some rounds but Rocky was aggressive enough that he would have gone out front and Serrano didn't have the firepower to consistently hold him off. Of course, this might have been in Puerto Rico, and we remember what happened when he fought Gomez there
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agreed
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Rocky would clean Sammy clock.
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giacomino wrote:Have to agree with you on stoppage, around the 11th, but I think Rocky would have been ahead. I can see him losing some rounds but Rocky was aggressive enough that he would have gone out front and Serrano didn't have the firepower to consistently hold him off. Of course, this might have been in Puerto Rico, and we remember what happened when he fought Gomez there
Yeah, one of the worst decisions I've ever seen. Gomez showed a ton of heart in that fight. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't he prevented from doing a post-fight interview because of damage to his vocals?
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Il Duce wrote:Samuel Serrano was an underrated boxer, and a crafty pain-in-the-ass.

But, he did have a tendency to get clocked good at least once in a fight, and was either floored
or wobbled by some 'short' fighters (ie; Ben Villaflor, Mar Basa, Leonel Hernandez, Alberto Herrera, Apollo Yoshio,
Young-Ho Oh, Julio Valdez, Yatsutsune Uehara (KO Loss), Battlehawk Kazama, and Benedicto Villablanca).

Only 'short' opponents listed.

Neither of the above listed 'short' fighters had neither the skill nor the punching power of Rocky Lockridge,
except maybe Yatsutsune Uehara.

Could see Rocky scoring a few knockdowns enroute to an at worst a solid Decision win by a 10-5-0 score
in Rounds.
I think Villaflor was better than Uehara, though not as good as Lockridge.
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Il Duce wrote:I corrected myself.

Yatsutsune Uehara could punch harder than Rocky Lockridge, but he was not as skilled.

Ben Villaflor, would have out-punched Rocky. He was much stronger. Ben hurt his hands
at the end of his career, and could not deliver his hard hooks. The man was 'ferocious'.
I think they both cracked equally; they each had one devastating one-punch KO over a top jr. light. Rocky stopped top comp more consistently.
Don't know if Villaflor would've outpunched Lockridge. Tough fight to call; two under-rated super feathers.
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Il Duce wrote:Ben Villaflor vs Rocky Lockridge

Excellent Fantasy Match-up........Requires more research.

The California Featherweights were all afraid to move up in weight and go
to Hawaii to Challenge the WBA Super Featherweight Champion.

Even the Lightweights were impressed with the southpaw.

Roberto Duran on Ben Villaflor. "He be good, berry good. Bueno, bueno."
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I watched the first Lockridge/ Pedroza fight a dozen times and despite the home crowd favoritism I had Lockridge winning each time I scored it. It was closer than the 10-5 score the CBS announcers had it, but Lockridge won.

I also had him winning against Gomez. Very, very barely, however. Rocky faded late in that fight. If it were twelve rounds, Lockridge wins by a mile.

Point being that Lockridge was a stellar amateur, a solid pro and two controversial losses away from being a hall of famer.

Serrano was slick, but he could be hit and Mayweather showed the world that a big right hand - straight right, or overhand right - could put Serrano's lights out.

Too bad that Lockridge is now a youtube joke. He was a very good fighter that could and did back up every great fighter he ever fought. He had a way of making the toughest of the tough guys and the slickest of the slick guys fight going backwards. He was a load and if he wasn't a cocaine fiend during his fighting days he would have done more in his career.
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Esquire wrote:I watched the first Lockridge/ Pedroza fight a dozen times and despite the home crowd favoritism I had Lockridge winning each time I scored it. It was closer than the 10-5 score the CBS announcers had it, but Lockridge won.

I also had him winning against Gomez. Very, very barely, however. Rocky faded late in that fight. If it were twelve rounds, Lockridge wins by a mile.

Point being that Lockridge was a stellar amateur, a solid pro and two controversial losses away from being a hall of famer.

Serrano was slick, but he could be hit and Mayweather showed the world that a big right hand - straight right, or overhand right - could put Serrano's lights out.

Too bad that Lockridge is now a youtube joke. He was a very good fighter that could and did back up every great fighter he ever fought. He had a way of making the toughest of the tough guys and the slickest of the slick guys fight going backwards. He was a load and if he wasn't a cocaine fiend during his fighting days he would have done more in his career.
I scored both Lockridge/Pedroza fights for Pedroza. I thought Lockridge beat Gomez clearly; Rocky faded in 11-13 but came back in 14-15.
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Il Duce wrote:On older Samuel Serrano fighting Roger Mayweather can't be the basis on determining what Rocky Lockridge
would do with 'El Torbellino'.

This is in no way an easy bout for the shorter Rocky Lockridge. Sammy was resilient, and always found
a way to neutralize his opponents.

Was (126 lb.) Eusebio Pedroza better than (130 lb.) Sameul Serrano. Tough call, but Eusebio never
entertained moving up in weight to take on 'Sammy'.

Close bout, with Rocky scoring two early knockdowns- as Serrano did go down ar get wobbled
many times by 'mediocre-punchers'. But Rocky usually faded late, and Serrano was at his best after
Round 8 -

Prime vs. Prime = Rocky Lockridge (143-142). The '2' knockdowns give Rocky a narrow victory. Sammy
won in rounds (7-6-2), but the 'two' {10-8} Rounds are the difference.

Computer Scorecard;

Samuel Serrano.......10 -10 -- 8 -- 9 -- 8 ....... 10 - 9 -- 9 ---10 -10 .... 9 -10- 10- 10- 10 = {142}
Rocky Lockridge...... 10 - 9 - 10 - 10 - 10 ....... 9 - 10 - 10 -- 9 - 9 ...... 10- 9 -10-- 9 - 9 = {143}

After Serrano boxes and moves, and jabs from long-range in Rounds 1 and 2, Rocky closes the range
in Round 3, and scores a knockdown by landing a wicked right hand to Serrano's chin.

Serrano goes into 'survival-mode' and makes it through Round 3, and Round 4 on 'shaky-pins'. In Round 5
Rocky will back up Serrano, and lands several hard rights that drop Serrano again.

But Rocky will be a liitle to 'rambunctious', and punch himself out a bit in trying for a knockout. Serrano will
recover enough, to outbox Rocky from the outside in Round 6.

The persistent Rocky, will regain control, and dominate Rounds 7 and 8 with a continuous punch attack,
while Serrano flee's with a defensive-minded attitude.

Rocky will slow a bit, and Serrano will edge back into the bout with good boxing skills in Rounds 9 and 10,
as he left jabs and scores with fast right-hands - and ties up Rocky everytime he gets in close.

Rocky will put in one good effort in Round 11, as he stuns Serrano with a hard right, but he can't put the elusive
5' 10" tall Serrano down again.

Serrano starts to edge back into the fight, starting in Round 12 as Rocky has dropped off in the punch departement.

The Rounds are close, but Serrano lands more punches by out-hitting Rocky with left-right one-two's, as Rocky is only
throwing single shots.

The last 'two-round' rally by Serrano is not enough to compensate for the 'two-knockdowns' as Rocky Lockridge
emerges with a hard-fought close 15-Round Decision.

Rocky Lockridge, 'I thought I had him out in Round 3. But he is one resilient guy. Everytime I saw his eyes rotate,
I thought he would go down. But he fought back, and put in a good effort down the stretch. I was the harder
puncher, and that is why I won the fight.'

Samuel Serrano, 'I got caught in Round 3, and it took me a few rounds to clear my head. The knockdown in Round 5
was more of my legs just giving out, but I wasn't hurt. I proved that I could take his best punches and still come back.
I thought I did enough to earn a 'Draw', as he won the first-half and I won the second-half of the bout. He's a good fighter
and I have no complaints with the Decision, as long as I get a rematch.'

Analysis;

Samuel Serrano's 5' 10" height was a problem for Rocky Lockridge in the later rounds, as Rocky had to reach more
so, than he had to the in the early rounds when he was able to stay close to Serrano.

Rocky was able to move in without fear of Serrano's punching power, and focused on an offense-only in the early going.
But, as Rocky's punch-rate fell off in the second-half of he bout, Serrano was able to score much easier than the
early going, and was able to steal the close rounds by landing more punches.
I agree using the Mayweather fight would be unfair, but not the Uehara one. I think Rocky Ueharas him at some point while behind (though not as widely as Uehara was).
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