Cameron v Green aftermath

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Cameron v Green aftermath

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Green has won it through superior ring craft, what should he do now?

Cameron's next move? He is young enough, but I reckon a move back to HW. Looked very drained at CW.
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Re: Cameron v Green aftermath

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Cameron's biggest problem at heavyweight is his height. Most of the top heavyweights now are close to two metres tall.
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Re: Cameron v Green aftermath

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At the bottom of the eastside boxing article on the result it says green wants another crack at wlod?
Dunno where that would have come from
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Re: Cameron v Green aftermath

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He may as well, he's nearly 40 and there isn't really anything domestically that will interest him now I don't think
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Re: Cameron v Green aftermath

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Green won well, it wasn,t a pretty fight to watch, i thought Cameron favoured the right hand, not many big shots to the head,Green fought a smart fight, didn,t see Angelo raving on ,what did you think of young Berry he was something else,there to play ? all the best
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Re: Cameron v Green aftermath

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Shane lacked the jucie to stamp his mark on the right, hes not the fighter he is at heavyweight when he moves to cruiser or in this case the agreed weight of 89kgs. It just saps him of the extra 5-10% and that explosiveness witnessed in the Barrett fight was missing. Even before the big right hand he landed you sensed Shane looked strong and powerful in that fight, last night he looked drained and lacking real pop.

Gren fought the perfect fight though, closing space and boxing well when he needed to!
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Re: Cameron v Green aftermath

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I guess ring craft is one way to put it but whatever it was it was messy and dirty. Green had the right fight game plan against Shane as Shane isnt a good in fighter at all. He didnt use his size properly when he was being mauled and Green has good fast punches on the inside. I still think Shane should stick around as im sure he can get another opportunity. If Green is going to fight the way he did last night from now on, he should just retire.
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Just watched the fight. Thought it was a good scrap and Green won going away. If he decides he doesn't want to take punches for a living anymore good for him but I didn't see anything in his performance that says he should hang up his gloves.
This was one of his best wins, he still has something to give in the ring.
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I reckon Danny is monitoring and waiting till after the Geale/Mundine result and may get together with Mundine's promotion for one last big money day and a shot at retribution!
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Win, loose or Draw agianst Geale a Green Vs Mundine fight would still be huge. Not sure at what weight though, Green surely couldnt get to Super-Middle. So maybe Light-Heavy? Either way big payday. Obviously if Mundine Wins though he has plenty more options internationally.
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If Green fights Mundine again he should make it at heavyweight and see just how fair dinkum Choc is.
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scottearley123456 wrote:At the bottom of the eastside boxing article on the result it says green wants another crack at wlod?
Dunno where that would have come from
He was winning quite comfortably in there first fight, and as demonstrated in the Cameron fight, hit and hold is effective at the higher weights, Green is a much better boxer. I hope this is the case.
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Perseus wrote:Just watched the fight. Thought it was a good scrap and Green won going away. If he decides he doesn't want to take punches for a living anymore good for him but I didn't see anything in his performance that says he should hang up his gloves.
This was one of his best wins, he still has something to give in the ring.

Thankyou and i agree! smart fight and that same fight would have him a WBC crown.
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Re: Cameron v Green aftermath

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Hounddawg wrote:
scottearley123456 wrote:At the bottom of the eastside boxing article on the result it says green wants another crack at wlod?
Dunno where that would have come from
He was winning quite comfortably in there first fight, and as demonstrated in the Cameron fight, hit and hold is effective at the higher weights, Green is a much better boxer. I hope this is the case.
the only reason i think he might not beat wlod or even cameron in a rematch is because of the game plan he used in each.
same with flores. i think he was able to outwit these big guys because he boxed completely differently to how he normally would. they jumped in expecting the same old green and he threw something completely new at them. if he fought any of those guys again im not sure the same tactis would win. nobody can now say that green is a one trick pony though so maybe he coild mix these styles into on fight? cud just imagine if he fought wlod the same as last time but then switch in the later rounds to how he fought cameron?
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Re: Cameron v Green aftermath

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I Think Wlod, Knew that Green fades late, and that because he was so far behind that "caution to the wind" and the Tarver game plan were his last roll of the dice. It worked, however Green was stubbin and should of used smoothering tactics to he just grab the belt. Wlod was also very respectful of Greens power, so this crap that doesn't hit hard at the higher weights is crap, men of the higher weights just know how to nulify strength better, than the lower weights.

Incoming!
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Hounddawg wrote:I Think Wlod, Knew that Green fades late, and that because he was so far behind that "caution to the wind" and the Tarver game plan were his last roll of the dice. It worked, however Green was stubbin and should of used smoothering tactics to he just grab the belt. Wlod was also very respectful of Greens power, so this crap that doesn't hit hard at the higher weights is crap, men of the higher weights just know how to nulify strength better, than the lower weights.

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I agree, Wlod was respectful of Green's power and Green certainly had him wobbly in the 5th. He also had Tarver hurt from a left hook at one point in their fight. That said, at cruiserweight, Danny Green is not a particularly big puncher - he has enough power to get respect and hurt him opponents, but not the kind of elite power he had at super middleweight and light heavyweight. Green was clearly the hardest puncher in the world at 168lb and possibly at 175lb, but at cruiserweight his power is significantly less than that of the biggest punchers - whose power carries to heavyweight.

Of course Green hits just as hard - in fact probably slightly harder - at cruiserweight, but he's hitting much bigger men who are accustomed to getting him by bigger, bigger punching fighters than Green. I disagree that higher weight fighters know how to nulify strength better - they are simply better equipped to absorb punches due to their larger size.
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Re: Cameron v Green aftermath

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What puzzles me is why did Cameron agree to fight at less than 14 stone 4 pounds? Or is the cruiserweight limit different in Oz? From what I hear they even had both fighters weighin twice so Cameron could not rehydrate.

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Re: Cameron v Green aftermath

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let it go.
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Cap wrote:What puzzles me is why did Cameron agree to fight at less than 14 stone 4 pounds? Or is the cruiserweight limit different in Oz? From what I hear they even had both fighters weighin twice so Cameron could not rehydrate.

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I think there was a catchweight. 195 pounds. At the end of the day Cameron didnt have to accept it though.
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Re: Cameron v Green aftermath

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Has Green said anything about his future plans? He should have one last crack at a legitimate cruiserweight title. I'm sure Wlod would be up for another big payday and trip to Perth. It's still a winnable fight for Green. Either that or rematch Mundine, I'm sure that fight would still make them both a boatload off cash
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Re: Cameron v Green aftermath

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Havent heard too much mate. There were murmurings of a rematch with Cameron, but I think Shane is going back to heavy. Id like to see him fight a rematch with Wlod, or get another big name out here. Maybe a finally at Perth Arena !!
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Cap wrote:What puzzles me is why did Cameron agree to fight at less than 14 stone 4 pounds? Or is the cruiserweight limit different in Oz? From what I hear they even had both fighters weighin twice so Cameron could not rehydrate.

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No, there was one weigh in plus the media weigh in earlier in the day when both stood on the scales and got pictures taken with no weight announced. This was done simply so they could make the 6pm news. The official weigh in took place at the proper time and that was it. The IBO don't have following day weigh in unlike other orgs
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Re: Cameron v Green aftermath

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The conspiracy theorists have to have something to talk about.
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