Roy Jones (1999 - 2002) v Bob Foster (1968 - 1974)

[Bricks]

Foster only needs to get lucky once.

Roy needs to stay lucky for 12 rounds.

Not sure it's all that predictable.

Tarver beats Roy...But Foster does not?

Just stirrin' the pot here.

and the pot you be cooking dont be stinkin for once olde man. The malady Jones has suffered since Ruiz is a interesting one. Was his chin broke all along and he hid it behind his reflexes and speed? I dont buy that. He took punches along the way hell he took a few shots from Ruiz a big tough old boy a HW......nah something more to it and he dont be on no juice prior to 2003 either.....there something more to it....something in his constitution be lost since Tarver 1 ......y'all forget he was 35 before the cracks appeared and had been competing for 15 years since seoul 88...personally i think roy became an older man lost that step on his reflexes and speed that kept him ahead, lost confidence, and when he lost weight he lost red blood cells he lost his hemoglobin and has an iron deficiency that causes him to pass out quick when hes hit.

[Rover]

Foster only needs to get lucky once.

Roy needs to stay lucky for 12 rounds.

Not sure it's all that predictable.

Tarver beats Roy...But Foster does not?

Just stirrin' the pot here.

and the pot you be cooking dont be stinkin for once olde man. The malady Jones has suffered since Ruiz is a interesting one. Was his chin broke all along and he hid it behind his reflexes and speed? I dont buy that. He took punches along the way hell he took a few shots from Ruiz a big tough old boy a HW......nah something more to it and he dont be on no juice prior to 2003 either.....there something more to it....something in his constitution be lost since Tarver 1 ......y'all forget he was 35 before the cracks appeared and had been competing for 15 years since seoul 88...personally i think roy became an older man lost that step on his reflexes and speed that kept him ahead, lost confidence, and when he lost weight he lost red blood cells he lost his hemoglobin and has an iron deficiency that causes him to pass out quick when hes hit.

Didn't he flunk a drug test after the Hall fight?

[elmersalsa]

I don't see too many light-heavyweights beating the great Bob Foster in his prime. He was too lethal, too tall and hit too hard for that weight class. Heck, he had to fight heavyweights but could not handle the BIG DOGS because he was frail. Most of his losses were against heavyweights. Foster by KO or a boring decision. A KO win for Foster if the great Roy Jones, Jr comes to fight and risk it, which he would not, and decision win for Foster if Jones plays it safe. Jones is a SAFETY FIRST FIGHTER and you cannot beat Foster that way. You gotta pressure him. Something that Jones would not do.

Foster's resume is no better than Oscar DelaHoya.

You yourself don't even believe that. Oscar was not a great fighter.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I don't see too many light-heavyweights beating the great Bob Foster in his prime. He was too lethal, too tall and hit too hard for that weight class. Heck, he had to fight heavyweights but could not handle the BIG DOGS because he was frail. Most of his losses were against heavyweights. Foster by KO or a boring decision. A KO win for Foster if the great Roy Jones, Jr comes to fight and risk it, which he would not, and decision win for Foster if Jones plays it safe. Jones is a SAFETY FIRST FIGHTER and you cannot beat Foster that way. You gotta pressure him. Something that Jones would not do.

Foster's resume is no better than Oscar DelaHoya.

You yourself don't even believe that. Oscar was not a great fighter.

I don't say things I don't believe. Foster's resume is no better than Oscar's.

[elmersalsa]

Winning a couple of alphabet titles don't mean a thing. Oscar was not a great fighter. Foster had a better resume. That is why he is one of the greats.

[The End]

Winning a couple of alphabet titles don't mean a thing. Oscar was not a great fighter. Foster had a better resume. That is why he is one of the greats.

Other than Tiger Foster has no great fighters under his belt. Not saying he isn't great but De La Hoyas resume dwarfs Foster's.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Winning a couple of alphabet titles don't mean a thing. Oscar was not a great fighter. Foster had a better resume. That is why he is one of the greats.

Ignorance is always your bliss.

[MEISINGER]

Winning a couple of alphabet titles don't mean a thing. Oscar was not a great fighter. Foster had a better resume. That is why he is one of the greats.

Other than Tiger Foster has no great fighters under his belt. Not saying he isn't great but De La Hoyas resume dwarfs Foster's.

i was thinking the same thing

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Winning a couple of alphabet titles don't mean a thing. Oscar was not a great fighter. Foster had a better resume. That is why he is one of the greats.

Other than Tiger Foster has no great fighters under his belt. Not saying he isn't great but De La Hoyas resume dwarfs Foster's.

i was thinking the same thing

As well you should, it's factual. Foster is right at the top of a most overrated list from a resume perspective. He has no business in a Light Heavy top 10, yet I've seen him at #1 and often in the top 5. He's not fit to shine Ezzard's boots.

[elmersalsa]

Bob Foster is an all-time great.
Oscar De La Hoya??? just a good boxer.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Bob Foster is an all-time great.
Oscar De La Hoya??? just a good boxer.

Why is Foster so much greater? Oh yeah, you hate Oscar.

[Rover]

Winning a couple of alphabet titles don't mean a thing. Oscar was not a great fighter. Foster had a better resume. That is why he is one of the greats.

Ignorance is always your bliss.

Christ, the stupidity is something to behold. DLH won more than "a couple of alphabet titles."

[Rover]

Bob Foster is an all-time great.
Oscar De La Hoya??? just a good boxer.

Why is Foster so much greater? Oh yeah, you hate Oscar.

Remember how elmersalsa would rather watch JCC fight as an amateur than prime DLH? He'd also rather see JCC talk than DLH fight. I'm surprised he even called DLH a "good boxer."

[elmersalsa]

Bob Foster is an all-time great.
Oscar De La Hoya??? just a good boxer.

Why is Foster so much greater? Oh yeah, you hate Oscar.

Remember how elmersalsa would rather watch JCC fight as an amateur than prime DLH? He'd also rather see JCC talk than DLH fight. I'm surprised he even called DLH a "good boxer."

The fact that I don't like or hate Oscar De La Hoya does not have nothing to do with my perception of him as rating him with the greats. He just doesn't measure up with the great Bob Foster. To say that Foster does not belong with the top 10 all-time light heavys is like saying that the great Joe Frazier does not belong with the top 10 all-time heavyweights. Foster was a dominant champion that reign the light heavys for almost 6 years.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Why is Foster so much greater? Oh yeah, you hate Oscar.

Remember how elmersalsa would rather watch JCC fight as an amateur than prime DLH? He'd also rather see JCC talk than DLH fight. I'm surprised he even called DLH a "good boxer."

The fact that I don't like or hate Oscar De La Hoya does not have nothing to do with my perception of him as rating him with the greats. He just doesn't measure up with the great Bob Foster. To say that Foster does not belong with the top 10 all-time light heavys is like saying that the great Joe Frazier does not belong with the top 10 all-time heavyweights. Foster was a dominant champion that reign the light heavys for almost 6 years.

Foster definitely has no business in the Top 10. Top 20 is a better question.

[Syntax Error]

Prime for prime?

As boxbuzz says. Foster only needs to get lucky once with either hand, and Jones goes to sleep.

Lets not forget Jones was dropped in his prime by Del Valle. Foster lands the same shot, Jones doesn't last another 30 seconds. I think Bob was the only guy to cut Ali ( which I think required six stitches above the eye ) who knows what might have happened if that shot landed clean on the chin?

I'm not saying Ali would have been KO'd, but he might have been KD'd. Foster definitely hit harder than Jones.

Ali was only ever (officially) floored by Left hooks & he swallowed punches from bona fide HW monsters, some of are cited as the biggest punchers in history, so I doubt anything Foster could have mustered would have knocked him down.

[gilgamesh]

I'm not gonna get into arguing Bob's legacy as it stands against De La Hoya or whoever, but I'll just say...

I think Roy Jones beats Bob Foster by decision. Bob would be snapping his jab, landing some of them and trying to land the bomb on Roy all night....mostly either coming up short or missing the sweet spot, and losing rounds. Roy would be extremely cautious towards the end of bout knowing that Foster still had one punch power and also knowing he had a big lead on the cards, probably giving a few rounds to Foster with his defensiveness, but overall still coming out on top. Roy wins a decision in the range of 116-112.

[elmersalsa]

Foster definitely has no business in the Top 10. Top 20 is a better question.

Get out of here! We know better than that. Foster in my view is a top 5 or top 10 lightheavyweight. One of the finest fighters in that division. In what division you put Oscar De La Hoya in the top 5?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Foster definitely has no business in the Top 10. Top 20 is a better question.

Get out of here! We know better than that. Foster in my view is a top 5 or top 10 lightheavyweight. One of the finest fighters in that division. In what division you put Oscar De La Hoya in the top 5?

Why is Foster in the Top 5? For beating Dick Tiger? Give some reasoning. His resume is incredibly shallow next to the real top guys. Make a case for Foster over Greb or Rosenbloom. I'm all ears.

I don't rate Oscar DelaHoya in the top 5 of any division. What in the world does that have to do with Foster at Light Heavyweight?

[Rover]

Foster definitely has no business in the Top 10. Top 20 is a better question.

Get out of here! We know better than that. Foster in my view is a top 5 or top 10 lightheavyweight. One of the finest fighters in that division. In what division you put Oscar De La Hoya in the top 5?

No, "we" don't.
You're not getting this. Saad doesn't think Foster's top 10, so asking what division DLH would be top 5 or 10 in means nothing because Saad doesn't view Foster as such at light heavy.
Another failed attempt to illustrate his superiority to DLH. Try again.

[Rover]

The fact that I don't like or hate Oscar De La Hoya does not have nothing to do with my perception of him as rating him with the greats. He just doesn't measure up with the great Bob Foster. To say that Foster does not belong with the top 10 all-time light heavys is like saying that the great Joe Frazier does not belong with the top 10 all-time heavyweights. Foster was a dominant champion that reign the light heavys for almost 6 years.

Your dislike of DLH does not have nothing to do with your perception?
Agreed.
It clearly has something to do with it.
Frazier's heavy resume is greater than Foster's light heavy one. Foster fought in a rather weak light heavy era, as has been pointed out to you time and time again.

[Ambling Alp II]

His competition at light heavy was better than Jones' competition. And he fought the best that was around, which is all that he could do. Jones did not do that.

[polecateddy]

Unfortunately a recent computer program has shown that Bob Foster only had the same boxing ability as Yusaf Mack. I don't think this bodes well against Roy Jones circa 2002.

[Rover]

Unfortunately a recent computer program has shown that Bob Foster only had the same boxing ability as Yusaf Mack. I don't think this bodes well against Roy Jones circa 2002.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

His competition at light heavy was better than Jones' competition. And he fought the best that was around, which is all that he could do. Jones did not do that.

I agree with that, Bob rates over Roy at 175. Greb, Tunney, Charles, Moore, Rosenbloom, Loughran, Conn, etc.. is a whole different story.