Bellew – Cleverly II

[Ezzard]

Isn’t it a travesty this hasn’t happened?

Thought the first fight was a humdinger, folk singer… Scored it a draw.

With Price-Fury losing it’s million pound shine…shouldn’t these two get it on? Appreciate the issues with promoters but come on…

[Horse]

Isn’t it a travesty this hasn’t happened?

No. I don't want to see a rematch anytime soon.

[Horse]

Why?

I scored it a draw too. I thought it was a decent fight.

I scored it to Cleverly by a couple of points.

I don't want to see it because I'd rather watch them against world class foreigners than each other.

[si7dog7]

I would like to see it.
First fight was very good and although Bellew's O was the first to go, you could make a case that a rematch should have been a given following an extremely close encounter (I personally had NC by only two rounds but some were so close a case could be made for either man). To boot TB gave such a good account of himself against some tough circumstances. ie pretty short notice.
Since then, both have progressed and TB, after Chilemba hopefully, is poised for another crack at a bonafide title, after two stoppages and a complete shutout.
Cleverley has now got more experience by fighting in US and is looking for a big name (Hopkins etc)

can't see a rematch any time soon in current climate though - If TB gets his belt (and it could be of WBC variety v Dawson or Pascal?) .....

then Money might talk

[Black Sam Bellamy]

I dont want it for no other reason than I cant bare listening to Bellew talking sh1t for a month beforehand.

[palooka]

I dont want it for no other reason than I cant bare listening to Bellew talking sh1t for a month beforehand.

That man can sell a fight; just as well he's not a heavyweight - imagine him and Tyson Fury going at it.

[loaded_gloves]

It's an okay British title fight.

Sorry, it's a fight for what, a 'world' title?

These two?

You're not serious?

[keithmoonhangover]

I picked Cleverly last time, but I think Bomber beats him if they fought now. Bellew has had some good learning fights since and Cleverly (by no fault of his own) hasn't really moved forward.

[dewipowell]

I would like to see it.
First fight was very good and although Bellew's O was the first to go, you could make a case that a rematch should have been a given following an extremely close encounter (I personally had NC by only two rounds but some were so close a case could be made for either man). To boot TB gave such a good account of himself against some tough circumstances. ie pretty short notice.
Since then, both have progressed and TB, after Chilemba hopefully, is poised for another crack at a bonafide title, after two stoppages and a complete shutout.
Cleverley has now got more experience by fighting in US and is looking for a big name (Hopkins etc)

can't see a rematch any time soon in current climate though - If TB gets his belt (and it could be of WBC variety v Dawson or Pascal?) .....

then Money might talk

Both boxers had 7 weeks notice.

[jBacca]

Even as a big fan of Tony I don't think it should happen soon.

Tony needs to focus on Chilemba and then hopefully gets his rightful shot at the WBC. If he loses, then naturally another fight with Cleverly makes sense.

I'm not sure with what's going on with Cleverly at the moment so I can't really make an accurate judgement on where he'll be in a years time.

[jessi]

Look at the poll, it's basically 50/50 of course it should happen ! Plus it's frank v Eddie

[CiganoBoxer]

I had Tony bell end beating Clev in that first fight ,,,i recon he whoops him again in a return

[TopGun]

I picked Cleverly last time, but I think Bomber beats him if they fought now. Bellew has had some good learning fights since and Cleverly (by no fault of his own) hasn't really moved forward.

It's a shame as Cleverly progressed rapidly when he was starting out, I thought he looked like he could go on to massive things bt since winning the world title he just looks like he hasn't improved. Clev should change his trainer or go back to uni.

[Ratchet Exits Nu]

It's an okay British title fight.

Sorry, it's a fight for what, a 'world' title?

These two?

You're not serious?

Agree.

[Ezzard]

Not too many interested in a 50-50 fight...

Surprised...

[taffytoon]

I would like to see it.
First fight was very good and although Bellew's O was the first to go, you could make a case that a rematch should have been a given following an extremely close encounter (I personally had NC by only two rounds but some were so close a case could be made for either man). To boot TB gave such a good account of himself against some tough circumstances. ie pretty short notice.
Since then, both have progressed and TB, after Chilemba hopefully, is poised for another crack at a bonafide title, after two stoppages and a complete shutout.
Cleverley has now got more experience by fighting in US and is looking for a big name (Hopkins etc)

can't see a rematch any time soon in current climate though - If TB gets his belt (and it could be of WBC variety v Dawson or Pascal?) .....

then Money might talk

Both boxers had 7 weeks notice.

Yes but don't let FACTS get in the way of the haters Dewi!! NC beat TB by at least 2 rounds in HIS back yard. FACT. When TB has something to bring to the table like a belt of his own then maybe a rematch could be on the cards.

[Yes We Can]

Although i think a dual combo of having a struggling/pain in the arse promoter and a severely limited (& ultimately detrimental to his ambitions) trainer have dampened Cleverley arguably since the Murat fight, i still think he has enough about him to win this fight... or other big fights should they arise.

I actually prefer Bellew, but think he falls just short against top 10ish opposition as his power wont carry him through a fight and he is reasonably basic in his skillset. I dont see anybody at world level matching Clev's workrate alone on his best night.

[si7dog7]

I would like to see it.
First fight was very good and although Bellew's O was the first to go, you could make a case that a rematch should have been a given following an extremely close encounter (I personally had NC by only two rounds but some were so close a case could be made for either man). To boot TB gave such a good account of himself against some tough circumstances. ie pretty short notice.
Since then, both have progressed and TB, after Chilemba hopefully, is poised for another crack at a bonafide title, after two stoppages and a complete shutout.
Cleverley has now got more experience by fighting in US and is looking for a big name (Hopkins etc)

can't see a rematch any time soon in current climate though - If TB gets his belt (and it could be of WBC variety v Dawson or Pascal?) .....

then Money might talk

Both boxers had 7 weeks notice.

aye, had the Braehmer incident in my mind for some reason, which was 5 months previous. Bellew missed the weight after agreeing the fight at a few days notice.

[lillywhite14]

Why?

I scored it a draw too. I thought it was a decent fight.

I scored it to Cleverly by a couple of points.

I don't want to see it because I'd rather watch them against world class foreigners than each other.

You want to see them both lose then?

[Horse]

You want to see them both lose then?

I'd rather they won, but either way I'd like to find out if they can do it or not.

[Final round]

Cleverly can't do it, he's pencilled in to fight B-Hop

[kevo]

Tony needs to focus on Chilemba and then hopefully gets his rightful shot at the WBC. If he loses, then naturally another fight with Cleverly makes sense.

Why does he get to walk into a Clev fight after losing a fight for the WBC?

Where did he say he'll walk into a Clev fight?

[Ratchet Exits Nu]

Neither has beaten any real in form world beaters.

Bellew has a tough one coming up, win that and he has done well, but Edison Miranda etc is not much of an indicator to how good a fighter is.

[keithmoonhangover]

Neither has beaten any real in form world beaters.

Bellew has a tough one coming up, win that and he has done well, but Edison Miranda etc is not much of an indicator to how good a fighter is.

How many 'real in form world beaters' are there out there?

[brian13]

Bellew because its becoming harder and harder to be impressed with Cleverly.

Unless Cleverly leaves Warren I can never see this fight happening.