John L Sullivan - his story

[Brutu]

Some publishing company really should have these 23 chapters re-printed(in ca.1910 type-set) and published in book form
with fine leather cover and binding and a slipcase.
I still prefer reading a book in hand rather then reading kindle.

[Brutu]

I was able to find out the date that this 23 part series had been originally published.
The first chapter of

"John L. Sullivan's Life,As Written By Himself".

Made its debut in The Boston Globe.
the week of 16.January.1910

[Brutu]

addendum(of sorts)

John L. Sullivan on old John Barleycorn.
13.February.1910


http://www.news.google.com/newspapers?i ... 2713444&dq

[Brutu]

I was able to find out the date that this 23 part series had been originally published.
The first chapter of

"John L. Sullivan's Life,As Written By Himself".

Made its debut in The Boston Globe.
the week of 16.January.1910

Actually it would seem it appeared even earlier in the
BOSTON DAILY GLOBE
"John L. Sullivan tells his own life story".
beginning 27.March.1904.

Maybe someone here could confirm this.

[Brutu]

I posted this in another thread a while back.
Its a photograph of a plaster casting of the right arm of
John L. Sullivan
that was cast around the time he fought Jake Kilrain
July.8.1889 at Richburg in Lamar County Mississippi.
It is on display in a glass case on a wall(with a championship belt)
at the New Orleans Athletic Club
located at 222 N. Rampart Street.
(scroll down about a quarter down this page to see it).

http://calliopestreet.blogspot.com

[Brutu]

This is probably the closest to anyone finding a filmed fight of
John L.Sullivan's.
here is a link to some stereocards of the Sullivan-Kilrain fight July.8.1889.

http://www.commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/S ... rain_Fight

[Brutu]

Has anyone here ever visited the site of the John L. Sullivan vrs. Jake Kilrain
fight?Richburg MS was about 110 miles Northeast of New Orleans.
There is a historical marker along Highway 11, near the fork of Richburg Road and Sandy Run road that parallels the highway about 3 miles South of Hattiesburg Mississippi.
But im not sure if that it is in the same spot that an earlier historical marker
was placed near there back in the 1930's.
However there appearers to have been some dispute as to where the exact spot was around its Centennial anniversary in 1989.
in 1889 it was reported the fight took place on the land owned by a lumber magnet Charles W.Rich who owned about 3 thousand acres then.
Repotedly behind a hill near his home in a natural amphitheatre in a cow pasture.
Quite often over the years historical markers have been moved
out of the way.

[Brutu]

here is a link to a photograph of the older historical marker that appeared in the January.17.1938 edition of LIFE magazine
(scroll down page to see photo)


http://books.google.com/books?id=wkoEAA ... pg=PA62&dq

on the old U.S 49 and State 24 at the junction
on the left side was a gravel road that led to a natural bowel
hidden by a clump of trees where the road ended.

[Brutu]

Here is a link to an old photograph of the Dudley Street Opera House
Roxbury Massachuesetts.
which was then located at 111-113 Dudley Street the southeast corner of Dudley and Washington Streets.
I believe it is just a vacant lot now


http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... Boston.png

This is were John L. Sullivan began the beginnings of his career in pugilsim in 1877
(the first time he put on a pair of boxing gloves anyway)
when he was invited and urged on stage to go a few rounds with
professional boxer Tom Scannel who was performing there that evening.
Sullivan would knock Scannel so hard that he flew over the piano and into the orchestra pit.

[Brutu]

link to a newspaper article dated March 1913,were a man points out the spot were 30 years earlier as a youth he had seen John L. Sullivan fight Paddy Ryan in front of the Barnes Hotel at Mississippi City.
The Barnes Hotel had burned down some 10 years earlier and the location was now vacant and
used as a park



http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=t3 ... 1450814&dq

[Brutu]

During John L. Sullivan's"Grand Knocking Out Tour of 1883-1884.
(scheduled 195 performances in 136 cities in 238 days)
One of his stops was at Central City Colorado
(December.24.1883)
The Central City Opera House(built in 1875) was renovated in the 1980's.


http://westernmininghistory.com/gallery-image/660/3951

No doubt when John L. Was in Central City he stayed at the Teller House
next door.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teller_House

[Brutu]

During the last week of December 1883,
The Grand Knock out tour visited Leadville Colorado
for a few days.
Here is the Tabor Opera House(built 1879)which still exists.

http://flickr.com/photos/safety_fast/7733516442

http://books.google.com/books?id=KD__Zx ... pg=PA77&dq


Hyman's Saloon Leadville Colorado
were Doc Holiday was employed when he greeted Sullivan.


http://books.google.com/books?id=4tOmXH ... 1-PT203&dq

[Brutu]

--Here is some little known John L. Sullivan trivia--
It was reported(back in the day from those who knew him)
That John L. Sullivan's favorite song was,
O'Donnell Abu
(O'Donnell Forever)
The clan Connell War Song
here is a 1966 version of it by the Clancey Bros.&Tommy Maken

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UML8ttdK_9o

[yancey]

Has anyone here ever visited the site of the John L. Sullivan vrs. Jake Kilrain
fight?Richburg MS was about 110 miles Northeast of New Orleans.
There is a historical marker along Highway 11, near the fork of Richburg Road and Sandy Run road that parallels the highway about 3 miles South of Hattiesburg Mississippi.
But im not sure if that it is in the same spot that an earlier historical marker
was placed near there back in the 1930's.
However there appearers to have been some dispute as to where the exact spot was around its Centennial anniversary in 1989.
in 1889 it was reported the fight took place on the land owned by a lumber magnet Charles W.Rich who owned about 3 thousand acres then.
Repotedly behind a hill near his home in a natural amphitheatre in a cow pasture.
Quite often over the years historical markers have been moved
out of the way.

Brutu, I pass through this area once in a while and will look for the marker the next time.

I never paid much attention to the old bare-knuckle era, but your information interests me.

It is absolutely amazing to me that Sullivan and Kilrain could go 75 rounds starting at 10:30 AM in the middle of the Mississippi summer.

Were the rounds three minutes back then? Was the activity in the rounds more or less the same as today or was it much slower paced? Anyone know?

[Brutu]

here is a link to an in-depth article about the Sullivan-Kilrain fight.
from the May.06.2002 issue of SPORTS ILLUSTRATED
(8 pages)

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/ ... index.html

[Brutu]

It got as high as 104 degrees under the broiling Mississippi sun .
John L. Was the last champion to defend his world championship title (against Kilrain)
under the London Prize Ring Rules.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Prize_Ring_Rules

[Brutu]

here is a scene from a good movie titled HARD TIMES starring Charles Bronson(1975)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DjUnkXN59Ps

[Brutu]

On the old William Muldoon farm at Belfast New York.They are restoring
the original training barns that John L. Sullivan had used.

http://bareknuckleboxinghalloffame.com/index.html

While restoring the barns,they also found some interesting artifacts.

http://bareknuckleboxinghalloffame.com/id4.html


A famous reporter interviews John L. Sullivan

http://bareknuckleboxinghalloffame.com/id2.html

[Caractacus]

Just thought bump this up for ole Jawnell.

[Caractacus]

I posted this in another thread a while back.
Its a photograph of a plaster casting of the right arm of
John L. Sullivan
that was cast around the time he fought Jake Kilrain
July.8.1889 at Richburg in Lamar County Mississippi.
It is on display in a glass case on a wall(with a championship belt)
at the New Orleans Athletic Club
located at 222 N. Rampart Street.
(scroll down about a quarter down this page to see it).

http://calliopestreet.blogspot.com

You know,looking at the photograph of the plaster cast of the right arm there in the display case at the New Orleans Athletic Club.
My very first thought was "Is that really a cast of John L. Sullivan's right arm ?"
Because I figured he would have had a much beefier looking bicep.
Maybe its actually a cast of the right arm of Jake Kilrain
and it was just assumed to have been John L's or just mislabled over the years ?
and perhaps someone had stolen it (John L. Sullivans arm casting )years before.
What do you all think ?

[Caractacus]

-Tale of the Tape-

Jake Kilrain

height 5 ft 10 "
weight 210 lbs
chest 41 inches

biceps 16 inches
forearm 14 inches

waist 34 inches
thigh 25 inches
calf 16.5 inches

shoe size-size 9
glove size no.9
coller size 17 "

[Caractacus]

-Tale of the Tape-
(1892 at age 34 y just before fighting Jim J. Corbett)

John L. Sullivan

height 5 ft 10.5 "
weight 209 lbs or 216 lbs
chest-44.5 (normal) 46.5 (expanded)
bicep 15 and seven-tenths contracted)
forearm -(left)-12 and two-tenths inches
(right)-13 inches

neck 16.5 inches
waist 38.2 inches
thigh 25 inches
calf 15 and 7/8 inches

[Caractacus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeNUufI4nN4

[Caractacus]

Has anyone here ever visited the site of the John L. Sullivan vrs. Jake Kilrain
fight?Richburg MS was about 110 miles Northeast of New Orleans.
There is a historical marker along Highway 11, near the fork of Richburg Road and Sandy Run road that parallels the highway about 3 miles South of Hattiesburg Mississippi.
But im not sure if that it is in the same spot that an earlier historical marker
was placed near there back in the 1930's.
However there appearers to have been some dispute as to where the exact spot was around its Centennial anniversary in 1989.
in 1889 it was reported the fight took place on the land owned by a lumber magnet Charles W.Rich who owned about 3 thousand acres then.
Repotedly behind a hill near his home in a natural amphitheatre in a cow pasture.
Quite often over the years historical markers have been moved
out of the way.

There was another site down South where John L. Sullivan fought Paddy Ryan in 1882
just outside a old hotel. that also had a historical marker.
It still had the original trees there but I think a Hurricane knocked them down about 10 years ago.
(see John L. Sullivan-The Early Years thread for more info)

[Crease]

John L the first Heavyweight Champion in history... Fascinating guy... With a true place in history.