....P4P top 10 Boxrec rating boxers with next? The idea of this is to put forward with respect to current ability as well as gauging a well matched fight that would ensure progress and move thier careers in a forward direction with good matchmaking whilst not putting them in too deep,too soon. Note i don't nesacarily agree with the current top 10.
Current P4P Boxrec rated Australians
1: Geale: Soliman is the mandatory, this looks less and less likely, and obviously Martinez is the holy Grail, i think 2 more fights to make this the fight, that it should be. So instead i would want a Pirog,Chavez Jnr fight and would even settle for one of the lesser Brits, Macklin,Barker, even a US Debut with Rubio or Taylor or any of those combinations from either column. If it was me.
Barker next (IBF International titlist)
JCC jnr
Martinez
2, Soliman: Hope he gets a his deserved shot, but not looking good, so he needs to while still relevant fight a top 10 fighter, if found guilty. His prize is that elusive title, so if Geale doesnt come off i would want...
Sturm rematch
Rubio ( IBF International former)
Then Geale
3, Green: Well i hope he has 2 more fights of meaning before retiremet, a lot to choose from, but given his age and last 5 or so fights, i would be happy with 2 intense fights, but would also settle for the builup up of a rematch with Wlod, which for me would cement his legacy with Australian boxing. The preference: 1 top 10 fighter, then Wlod for the WBC title, leaving arguable our most accomplished Heavier fighter, 1st choice Chambers/Layode then WBC Title Wlod. Or the easy route.. Fragemine who is currently number 1 ranked in WBC, Won the eliminator recently,then Wlod for the tile....either way is a great way to go out, it"s enough for all to be happy to say the word "respect! and what a finsh to a career.
4, Bika: Hope he gets a shot at the WBC, after winning the eliminator, would be happy for his sake to get the easiest shot at Steiglist and grab that elusive title, after 2 more fights i hope LT Heavy becons, is a better fighter than some suggest.
For me Steiglist WBO champ and with his biggest win against Abraham recently, then the winner of Frock/kesseler, than move to LT heavy. no other suggestions after 2 solid wins recently, and he's more than bigger enough for Lt Heavy.
5, Dibb, for me it's black and white, returns home and either scalps the rising feather Brunker early May, or the super feather rising star, Tomlinson, then heads back and regains his title after excercising his rematch clause overseas against the Russian. then move up to super Feather permantly.
6,Mundine, I don't care as long as it's a follow up from his form level of comp ie Geale ... Murray has Martinez and gets stopped, thats his next fight in 6 months Murray needing a win as dose Mundine, can't see him beating any current belt holders, so maybe a long shot at GGG/Quilan...then hang it up...other option return to his normal weight, However he has no chance of beating any belt holders at super middle, just no more Australian fighters or Argentines, show some balls before leaving the fight game( He Tells the truth the Khoder is a shit stain on the sport before leaving).
7,Wood, Now or never, but something, obviouly thrown very deep, very early, so 3 more middle fights against opposition here. before looking at overseas ( Agree with Convict, but after all it was top 10 Boxrec)
My thoughts, Shiak,Fletcher then Sherrington, all winnable fights
8, Omotoso ( US based) Suffered very first galliant defeat after dropping vargas and lost a few rounds. So still not quite ready and still young...My Thoughts...why not NDou, or and a very tough fight with Rabah, then head back and start a new plan, Mathew hatton would be a good start back and bulid from there.
Will finish Tomlinson and Sherrington tomorrow, the idea is to map with common sense, and with current ability that should see each fight as a stepping stone learnning curve that gets them noticed on the world with a plan for a title opportunity.
love to hear a plan for each fighter and matching
If you had the powers that be who would you match our top 10
If you had the powers that be who would you match our top 10
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Re: If you had the powers that be who would you match our top 10
Not gonna do them all but,
Geale, if Solimans b sample comes back positive, fight macklin on hbo, then target martinez or Golovkin latter in the year
Dib, immediate rematch with the Russian
Green and Mundine, retire
Bika, move to LHW, target Dawson or pascal
Tomlinson, fight someone in the top ten, try and get an all Aussie super fight with Dib
Geale, if Solimans b sample comes back positive, fight macklin on hbo, then target martinez or Golovkin latter in the year
Dib, immediate rematch with the Russian
Green and Mundine, retire
Bika, move to LHW, target Dawson or pascal
Tomlinson, fight someone in the top ten, try and get an all Aussie super fight with Dib
Re: If you had the powers that be who would you match our top 10
Sherrington, Only achievable & maybe winnable champion fight for him is Steiglist.
Bika, Needs to remain where he is and get his rematch with Bute.* If not fight Green.
Wood, Really? A dirty fighter that 15min of fame died long ago. Good ridden's.
Green should rematch the WBC champ then retire.*If not fight Bika.
Mundine, I don't think he has anything to offer but retire - Good luck to him.
As for Geale/Soliman Im sure its still gonna happen - But for Geale to fight Rubio i doubt it. There is no way Rubio gives away his No:1 spot and a great payday Vs Martinez.
Bika, Needs to remain where he is and get his rematch with Bute.* If not fight Green.
Wood, Really? A dirty fighter that 15min of fame died long ago. Good ridden's.
Green should rematch the WBC champ then retire.*If not fight Bika.
Mundine, I don't think he has anything to offer but retire - Good luck to him.
As for Geale/Soliman Im sure its still gonna happen - But for Geale to fight Rubio i doubt it. There is no way Rubio gives away his No:1 spot and a great payday Vs Martinez.
Re: If you had the powers that be who would you match our top 10
( I Think we'll see Rubio fight someone else, he owned the IBF international less than 9 months ago, Martinez is after another JCC jnr and unification fights)convict wrote:Sherrington, Only achievable & maybe winnable champion fight for him is Steiglist.( If he fought Stiegliest now he gets stopped in 2, what fights would be good prep before he got that shot, and he's now campaigning at middle anyway)
Bika, Needs to remain where he is and get his rematch with Bute.* If not fight Green. ( He's won the WBC eliminator, Bute is fighting at LT Heavy and against Pascal) Wood, Really? A dirty fighter that 15min of fame died long ago. Good ridden's. ( Agree, however if he clean the up and comers of Middleweight he's made a new statement)
Green should rematch the WBC champ then retire.*If not fight Bika. ( Would love to see the rematch, howver Green is ranked like 18 in the WBC, Frogomeni is 1, and i belive after 1 big pay day before retiring, so Greens money should suffice and this route is achievable. Always wanted Bika v Green, don't think Bika is jumping 2 divisions with a number 1 ranking.)
Mundine, I don't think he has anything to offer but retire - Good luck to him. ( Happy with that)
As for Geale/Soliman Im sure its still gonna happen - But for Geale to fight Rubio i doubt it. There is no way Rubio gives away his No:1 spot and a great payday Vs Martinez.
Re: If you had the powers that be who would you match our top 10
My continued list from my early morning post last night.
9, Tomlinson: this is by far, my exciting small fighter, has fought some fighters around the world, however not world rated but at least they not 3rd tier Argentine, Thai's. He needs 2 or 3 solid matchups before taking on the Japs. the best Route for Tomlinson is to find a way to fight Gamaliel Diaz current WBC if he gets past the Jap in his next fight.
So i think Rocky Juarz, Malcolm Klassen then Gamaliel Diaz for the WBC, this needs to move quickly as the 2 fights leading up will give Will a true idea what it's like to be in with 2 ex champs, the final formula before challenging for a legit title. Love to see either a Dib and Kickett fight as well, but if he wants a legit title go my way.
10, Sherington: With all honesty, like Woods i think thier rating is inflated and could easily slot 2 other fighters in, but i won't insult Boxrec. So my plan for Shero would be to clean up here, Woods would be 1 good option, Fletcher at years end and perhaps bring a more noted who's not at the end of there career here in between, at this stage i would choose Joachim Alcine to ensure even if he loss's a 12 round loss, or if he improves with 2 fights i mentioned above maybe he stops the granite chin
Alcine. either way change his diet of Argentine and asian food to be taken serious.
9, Tomlinson: this is by far, my exciting small fighter, has fought some fighters around the world, however not world rated but at least they not 3rd tier Argentine, Thai's. He needs 2 or 3 solid matchups before taking on the Japs. the best Route for Tomlinson is to find a way to fight Gamaliel Diaz current WBC if he gets past the Jap in his next fight.
So i think Rocky Juarz, Malcolm Klassen then Gamaliel Diaz for the WBC, this needs to move quickly as the 2 fights leading up will give Will a true idea what it's like to be in with 2 ex champs, the final formula before challenging for a legit title. Love to see either a Dib and Kickett fight as well, but if he wants a legit title go my way.
10, Sherington: With all honesty, like Woods i think thier rating is inflated and could easily slot 2 other fighters in, but i won't insult Boxrec. So my plan for Shero would be to clean up here, Woods would be 1 good option, Fletcher at years end and perhaps bring a more noted who's not at the end of there career here in between, at this stage i would choose Joachim Alcine to ensure even if he loss's a 12 round loss, or if he improves with 2 fights i mentioned above maybe he stops the granite chin
Alcine. either way change his diet of Argentine and asian food to be taken serious.Re: If you had the powers that be who would you match our top 10
thunderfromdownunder wrote:Not gonna do them all but,
Geale, if Solimans b sample comes back positive, fight macklin on hbo, then target martinez or Golovkin latter in the year
Dib, immediate rematch with the Russian
Green and Mundine, retire
Bika, move to LHW, target Dawson or pascal
Tomlinson, fight someone in the top ten, try and get an all Aussie super fight with Dib
Bika just won a WBC eliminator Super middle, obviously Bika being the warrior he is, also shows he's stubborn and imo won't move from the division until he wins a title at super, agree about moving up, but what i said is on par, Bute is fighting pascal anyway.
Don't agree about Green and Mundine.
I hear the Russian is exercising his non mandatory and Dib is coming back for a fight here in May early June, before returning to excersise his rematch clause.