Bruno Documentary on ITV.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 17 Oct 2005, 14:05

Tuesday ITV1 9.45pm.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 18 Oct 2005, 04:21

must remember this tonight.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 18 Oct 2005, 12:14

Bump.

darkstar81 · Post by **darkstar81** » 18 Oct 2005, 13:49

how good was frank bruno?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 18 Oct 2005, 13:53

darkstar81 wrote:how good was frank bruno?

Good enough in my opinion to give any of todays Heavyweight Title holders ALL the trouble they could handle.

darkstar81 · Post by **darkstar81** » 18 Oct 2005, 13:59

im too young to really remember. shame about his voice! he was always a figure of fun but he got in there with tyson twice so he has my respect

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 18 Oct 2005, 14:03

darkstar81 wrote:im too young to really remember. shame about his voice! he was always a figure of fun but he got in there with tyson twice so he has my respect

Bruno was always in good condition, world class puncher, very good jab. His nerves and hence stamina often let him down though, but Big Frank always gave it 100%.

He gave a near peak Lennox Lewis a VERY tough fight.

Collins2000 · Post by **Collins2000** » 18 Oct 2005, 18:23

KOJOE90 wrote:
darkstar81 wrote:im too young to really remember. shame about his voice! he was always a figure of fun but he got in there with tyson twice so he has my respect
Bruno was always in good condition, world class puncher, very good jab. His nerves and hence stamina often let him down though, but Big Frank always gave it 100%.

He gave a near peak Lennox Lewis a VERY tough fight.

He never gave 100% in the 2nd Tyson fight.

Yeah, he pushed Lewis early on but once Lewis landed flush Bruno was gone.

Chesney_Chambers · Post by **Chesney_Chambers** » 18 Oct 2005, 18:26

BBBBBRRRRRRUUUUUUUNNNNNNOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

What a top bloke

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 18 Oct 2005, 19:44

An honest documentary - would have liked to have heard about how he got into the drug scene a bit more - instead of "after the Tyson fight, Bruno got into drugs".

cslater · Post by **cslater** » 18 Oct 2005, 22:36

Bruno was in good form at the boxing writers dinner last night.

pasty_spud · Post by **pasty_spud** » 19 Oct 2005, 01:36

Collins2000 wrote:
KOJOE90 wrote:
darkstar81 wrote:im too young to really remember. shame about his voice! he was always a figure of fun but he got in there with tyson twice so he has my respect
Bruno was always in good condition, world class puncher, very good jab. His nerves and hence stamina often let him down though, but Big Frank always gave it 100%.

He gave a near peak Lennox Lewis a VERY tough fight.
He never gave 100% in the 2nd Tyson fight.

Yeah, he pushed Lewis early on but once Lewis landed flush Bruno was gone.

like barry mac said last night," when bruno got tagged,instead of covering up,holding on or move away,he dropped his hands and stuck his chin out". as for the 2nd tyson fight,if nigel benn got the shits walking with frank holding the flags imagine what frank was going through

bruno - british sporting hero

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 19 Oct 2005, 03:19

I did like Benns contribution last night, at least he was honest to say he felt Intimidated at the 2nd Tyson fight. So what did it feel like to be Bruno, i think maybe the feeling that he could let everyone down got to him as well as the thought of facing Tyson.

Bruno always trained to be in top condition, one of my favourite memorys of boxing is when he won the title, hopefully he can keep himself together and enjoy his retirment.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 19 Oct 2005, 03:32

I recorded it on Sky Plus but it never picked up the bit after the news. Grrr....

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 19 Oct 2005, 03:38

I really enjoyed it, brought back so many memories. Him holding on against McCall in the last couple of rounds I can remember willing him to stay up.

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 19 Oct 2005, 03:44

nickd wrote:I really enjoyed it, brought back so many memories. Him holding on against McCall in the last couple of rounds I can remember willing him to stay up.

I remeber listening to that on radio at a house party in Preston. I had my ear next to the radio all fight but for the last couple of rounds the music went off, the girls were ignored (and pissed off) and then the whole place went nuts.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 19 Oct 2005, 03:46

Coconut wrote:
nickd wrote:I really enjoyed it, brought back so many memories. Him holding on against McCall in the last couple of rounds I can remember willing him to stay up.
I remeber listening to that on radio at a house party in Preston. I had my ear next to the radio all fight but for the last couple of rounds the music went off, the girls were ignored (and pissed off) and then the whole place went nuts.

Very strange performance by McCall, he did absolutely nothing for the first 9-10 rounds I think he banked on being able to get a stoppage at the end. Or he was off his face on crack who knows.

BunglesFingers · Post by **BunglesFingers** » 19 Oct 2005, 04:34

Those last 2 or 3 of rounds went on for ever!

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 19 Oct 2005, 04:37

I was at a party when the fight was on, at the start of the fight there was about 5 of us watching it, by the end everyone at the party was shouting at the TV willing Bruno to hold on, we all went nuts at the end.
And if my memory is right i got my end away by the end of the party, not a bad night out

dandantheweatherman · Post by **dandantheweatherman** » 19 Oct 2005, 06:39

I was on a night shift when Bruno beat McCall. At the time we used radio receivers to receive the weather charts I needed, but they could be tuned to Radio Five. Not many weather charts got received that evening. Ha Ha. My current employers would probably give me the bullet for this kind of thing now!!!

I'd never seen Bruno getting staggered by Jumbo Cummings before - lucky that was at the end of the round. I'd also forgotten about the Uncle Tom stuff, which was very sad IMO.

I didn't think the level of Bruno's competition was that bad really either as it happens...I mean, he won the European title. I thought it was a shame he didn't fight for the British title - surely the leading British contenders at the time would have been of an acceptable standard for Bruno.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 19 Oct 2005, 06:58

dandantheweatherman wrote: I didn't think the level of Bruno's competition was that bad really either as it happens...I mean, he won the European title. I thought it was a shame he didn't fight for the British title - surely the leading British contenders at the time would have been of an acceptable standard for Bruno.

Bruno did beat some good men Eklund, Coetzee, Coetzer, Williams, Ferguson and McCall.
Unfortunatly he also faced some hopelessly outclassed people like John Emmen and Chuck Gardner, it didn't help Bruno that these mismatches were televised on prime time TV.

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 19 Oct 2005, 07:34

i wish frank were around in today's scene, i could imagine him beating up Byrd, Ruiz, Brewster, Wlad, basically everyone except Vitali I feel.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 19 Oct 2005, 08:28

Underrated fighter Bruno, had good boxing skills especially his jab which was phenomenal, but his stamina problems always got to him in the end.

His punch power was nothing short of promethean, and had he been a bit more fluid he would have been a really devastating fighter, but his lack of combination punching made it easier for the top class fighters he faced to weather the storm.

Why he didn't learn to hold and grab before the McCall fight is totally beyond me, because he sure grappled and clung on for dear life in those last three rounds.

I always suspected that McCall was instructed to hold back in that fight, it won't be a popular theory, but I always suspected that King was keen on McCall losing and probably paid him well not to try too hard, certainly he did bugger all for most of the fight. There was a lot more money in Tyson fighting Bruno than fighting McCall for Don King.

This isn't meant as a knock on Frank in any way shape or form.

Thought allegedly came across pretty well in that documentary, seemed to have genuine respect and care for Bruno. I laughed at that bit where he went, 'fornicate off Frank, maybe you're fornicating mad.'

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 19 Oct 2005, 08:54

topper123 wrote:I was at a party when the fight was on, at the start of the fight there was about 5 of us watching it, by the end everyone at the party was shouting at the TV willing Bruno to hold on, we all went nuts at the end.
And if my memory is right i got my end away by the end of the party, not a bad night out

Did you blow your load early like Frank?

revporl · Post by **revporl** » 19 Oct 2005, 09:19

Yeah, he was a good fighter, very strong but a bit stilted. Also he became paralysed mentally and physically as soon as anyone really caught him. Top bloke, though.