Johnny du Plooy dead.

Rover · Post by **Rover** » 12 Apr 2013, 06:48

On the heels of Mel Turnbow's death, Johnny du Plooy has also passed.
RIP.

polecateddy · Post by **polecateddy** » 12 Apr 2013, 06:52

I don't know much about him, but heard he had a bit of a punch.

Rover · Post by **Rover** » 12 Apr 2013, 07:44

polecateddy wrote:I don't know much about him, but heard he had a bit of a punch.

Yeah, he did.

loaded_gloves · Post by **loaded_gloves** » 12 Apr 2013, 12:29

Christ! DuPlooy as well??

Sounded like a wild, fight loving character in his Boxing Illustrated interview, round the time he lost to Snipes.

He came out swinging very hard, bit like an orthodox Corrie Sanders, could be KOd - although he seemed to give up rather than be genuinely knocked out - and made for some very exciting fights. Lost in the deep talent pool he competed in, but wow he would be fun to have around today.

HomicideHenry · Post by **HomicideHenry** » 12 Apr 2013, 13:13

Rest in peace and Jesus bless both Turnbow and Du Plooy and their families

Brutu · Post by **Brutu** » 12 Apr 2013, 17:14

Only a few of Johnny du Plooy's bouts were televised.
Here is Johnny du Plooy vs. Mike Weaver II.
30.April.1988

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhhqbDjQhXE

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 12 Apr 2013, 21:03

What did he die of? Must have been fairly young.

Du Plooy had a good punch but was not the most athletic guy and although he had a long AM career really wasn't that skilled of a boxer. Also had the trademark South African stamina problem. But he was in a lot of fun fights and was a top 10 contender at one point in the late 80s. RIP.

Brutu · Post by **Brutu** » 12 Apr 2013, 21:44

Here is Francesco Damiani vs. Johnny Du Plooy
06.May.1989 ,Italy for the WBO Heavyweight title.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ICiPoh3QI

polecateddy · Post by **polecateddy** » 12 Apr 2013, 22:26

Brutu wrote:Only a few of Johnny du Plooy's bouts were televised.
Here is Johnny du Plooy vs. Mike Weaver II.
30.April.1988

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhhqbDjQhXE

Wow! He was quite a puncher. Great scalp!

loaded_gloves · Post by **loaded_gloves** » 13 Apr 2013, 04:55

There were many DuPlooy fights televised. I have a ton of them on tape. Tillis, Bey, Pritchard, Weaver 1 and 2 et al, Snipes broadcast in the US, all these just off the top of my head. Obviously that poor run vs Damiani, Coetzer and Sanders (I say poor - he came out blasting in all of them to his credit)

polecateddy · Post by **polecateddy** » 13 Apr 2013, 05:39

loaded_gloves wrote:There were many DuPlooy fights televised. I have a ton of them on tape. Tillis, Bey, Pritchard, Weaver 1 and 2 et al, Snipes broadcast in the US, all these just off the top of my head. Obviously that poor run vs Damiani, Coetzer and Sanders (I say poor - he came out blasting in all of them to his credit)

He's not as well known as he should have been I guess. Definitely a tough era to prosper in.

Rover · Post by **Rover** » 13 Apr 2013, 07:26

dempseyfire wrote:What did he die of? Must have been fairly young.

Du Plooy had a good punch but was not the most athletic guy and although he had a long AM career really wasn't that skilled of a boxer. Also had the trademark South African stamina problem. But he was in a lot of fun fights and was a top 10 contender at one point in the late 80s. RIP.

I've read it was heart trouble.

polecateddy · Post by **polecateddy** » 13 Apr 2013, 07:31

Rover wrote:
dempseyfire wrote:What did he die of? Must have been fairly young.

Du Plooy had a good punch but was not the most athletic guy and although he had a long AM career really wasn't that skilled of a boxer. Also had the trademark South African stamina problem. But he was in a lot of fun fights and was a top 10 contender at one point in the late 80s. RIP.
I've read it was heart trouble.

Hmm... bit rascist. There's been a few heavies who could have trained harder, but it's hardly a genetic weakness in all South African boxers! Lol

Rover · Post by **Rover** » 13 Apr 2013, 09:55

polecateddy wrote:
Rover wrote:
dempseyfire wrote:What did he die of? Must have been fairly young.

Du Plooy had a good punch but was not the most athletic guy and although he had a long AM career really wasn't that skilled of a boxer. Also had the trademark South African stamina problem. But he was in a lot of fun fights and was a top 10 contender at one point in the late 80s. RIP.
I've read it was heart trouble.
Hmm... bit rascist. There's been a few heavies who could have trained harder, but it's hardly a genetic weakness in all South African boxers! Lol

I was answering the question about what he died of: heart issues.

polecateddy · Post by **polecateddy** » 13 Apr 2013, 10:16

Not you, the other one :)

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 13 Apr 2013, 17:15

I guessing from your strident defense of Corrie Sanders poleteddy that you are South African.

Not sure if you were joking or not, but all of the notable South African HWs of the past 30 years had notable stamina issues (Coatzee, Sanders, Botha, DuPlooy) Not sure why, but it just seems to be the trend. Certainly nothing "racial" about it. Heck, the lone black South African HW of any note was Courage Tshabalaba, and he had awful stamina too!

Rover · Post by **Rover** » 13 Apr 2013, 17:31

dempseyfire wrote:I guessing from your strident defense of Corrie Sanders poleteddy that you are South African.

Not sure if you were joking or not, but all of the notable South African HWs of the past 30 years had notable stamina issues (Coatzee, Sanders, Botha, DuPlooy) Not sure why, but it just seems to be the trend. Certainly nothing "racial" about it. Heck, the lone black South African HW of any note was Courage Tshabalaba, and he had awful stamina too!

polecateddy · Post by **polecateddy** » 13 Apr 2013, 17:32

dempseyfire wrote:I guessing from your strident defense of Corrie Sanders poleteddy that you are South African.

Not sure if you were joking or not, but all of the notable South African HWs of the past 30 years had notable stamina issues (Coatzee, Sanders, Botha, DuPlooy) Not sure why, but it just seems to be the trend. Certainly nothing "racial" about it. Heck, the lone black South African HW of any note was Courage Tshabalaba, and he had awful stamina too!

Botha doesn't have terrible stamina. Even as a middle-aged, overweight boxer he can still do 12 rounds.

Brutu · Post by **Brutu** » 13 Apr 2013, 17:34

You had forgotten to mention Kallie Knoetze,he gassed out fairly early in his fights too.

Brutu · Post by **Brutu** » 13 Apr 2013, 17:35

Corrie Sanders vs. Johnny du Plooy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7P8vV321oo

Rover · Post by **Rover** » 13 Apr 2013, 18:39

polecateddy wrote:
dempseyfire wrote:I guessing from your strident defense of Corrie Sanders poleteddy that you are South African.

Not sure if you were joking or not, but all of the notable South African HWs of the past 30 years had notable stamina issues (Coatzee, Sanders, Botha, DuPlooy) Not sure why, but it just seems to be the trend. Certainly nothing "racial" about it. Heck, the lone black South African HW of any note was Courage Tshabalaba, and he had awful stamina too!
Botha doesn't have terrible stamina. Even as a middle-aged, overweight boxer he can still do 12 rounds.

Doing 12 didn't work out well for him the last time he tried it.
And he's gone 12 in the last few years against mediocre comp.

Jaywheel · Post by **Jaywheel** » 02 May 2013, 09:35

How could I have missed that?

Johnny du Plooy one of South Africa’s most charismatic and exciting fighters died in Primrose on the East Rand on Friday morning after suffering from heart problems in recent years. He was 48...

...a journalist once wrote “Physically he has all the macho requirements of a matinee idle. Yet beneath the handsome, sun-tanned exterior bristles an untamed, spit in your face product as rough and resolute as the hard-bitten Ellis Park suburb from which he sprung.”

Du Plooy, a very very good heavy from the 80's and 90's, had a career defining KO win against ring legend Mike Weaver, who was still in his prime. He then suffered hardly fought at decent rates defeats to soon to be considered ATG WBO champs Damiani and most famously, the Stamina Sniper.

loaded_gloves · Post by **loaded_gloves** » 02 May 2013, 15:56

Mike Weaver was nowhere near his prime when he beat Johnny DuPlooy, let alone when he lost to him. Still, a very nice KO for JP.

If you want to see a really scary KO, I have no idea if it's on YouTube, see DuPlooy lay out James Broad in horrorshow fashion.

It should be pointed out that Broad is 6'5'' and 260lb and DuPlooy is 'only' about 200lb, so probably Broad took a dive because it is well documented on Boxers of the Past that anyone 200lb cannot punch, is 'small', 'feeble' and 'fly-like'.

kaiserbill · Post by **kaiserbill** » 02 May 2013, 16:01

dempseyfire wrote:I guessing from your strident defense of Corrie Sanders poleteddy that you are South African.

Not sure if you were joking or not, but all of the notable South African HWs of the past 30 years had notable stamina issues (Coatzee, Sanders, Botha, DuPlooy) Not sure why, but it just seems to be the trend. Certainly nothing "racial" about it. Heck, the lone black South African HW of any note was Courage Tshabalaba, and he had awful stamina too!

You seem to have omitted Pierre Coetzer in your analysis.

And as mentioned, Botha had lots of issues, but stamina wasn't one of them.

kaiserbill · Post by **kaiserbill** » 02 May 2013, 16:06

loaded_gloves wrote:Mike Weaver was nowhere near his prime when he beat Johnny DuPlooy, let alone when he lost to him. Still, a very nice KO for JP.

If you want to see a really scary KO, I have no idea if it's on YouTube, see DuPlooy lay out James Broad in horrorshow fashion.

It should be pointed out that Broad is 6'5'' and 260lb and DuPlooy is 'only' about 200lb, so probably Broad took a dive because it is well documented on Boxers of the Past that anyone 200lb cannot punch, is 'small', 'feeble' and 'fly-like'.

Du Plooy, at 6'3", weighed 212 for the Broad fight, and he could punch, so highly doubt it was a "dive". ( I know you're kidding

)

It sounds like you have some of the more esoteric fight footage.

Maybe a good idea to upload it on youtube?

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