Who showed better skills in their fights with Holyfield?

[The Great John L]

Your not seriously trying to claim that Lewis and Benitez took similar amounts of punishment during their respective careers are you?

I'm suggesting that any professional fighter with the number of fights that Lewis had, has taken enough punishment in fights (amateur and pro) as well as in sparring to incur brain damage if the fighter is predisposed for it. To measure a fighter based on his condition after his fighting years is retarded.[/quote]

Especially when all you have to do is watch the defenseless Bowe in one of his few fights against an opponent who could actually fight. Good luck finding a Bowe fight where his opponent was a big puncher, because those guys were avoided at all costs.

[hhaehre]

Exactly. Well stated that man, which is why he ( Bowe ) has ended up punchy.

As to the other guy. The only retards are people who gob off about Lewis, that know nothing whatsoever about how he trained and fought. I suggest you do some research before making yourself look an idiot.

You could start by reading what Steward had to say about LL. He will never say he was a dedicated trainer, what he will say is he was a great listener, and easily picked up the technical advice Manny gave him. Lewis did not go to Steward to work on condition, and stamina, and spar hundreds of rounds, to prepare for fights, he went to improve his power, and technique.

Lewis was in fact a sloppy trainer, only doing enough preparation to fight to his game plan.

You stated that Lewis was the better man compared to Bowe and Holyfield because he isn't punchy (yet). Is that because you think Lewis took so few punches during his entire career, pro and amateur?
If you believe that the punches Lewis has taken in his career, often against world class opposition, isn't enough to cause damage if the disposition is there then you really are one special kind of idiot.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Evander isn't punchy at all. He always sounded like that.

[Rover]

Your not seriously trying to claim that Lewis and Benitez took similar amounts of punishment during their respective careers are you?

I'm suggesting that any professional fighter with the number of fights that Lewis had, has taken enough punishment in fights (amateur and pro) as well as in sparring to incur brain damage if the fighter is predisposed for it. To measure a fighter based on his condition after his fighting years is retarded.

Especially when all you have to do is watch the defenseless Bowe in one of his few fights against an opponent who could actually fight. Good luck finding a Bowe fight where his opponent was a big puncher, because those guys were avoided at all costs.

Exactly. Well stated that man, which is why he ( Bowe ) has ended up punchy.

As to the other guy. The only retards are people who gob off about Lewis, that know nothing whatsoever about how he trained and fought. I suggest you do some research before making yourself look an idiot.

You could start by reading what Steward had to say about LL. He will never say he was a dedicated trainer, what he will say is he was a great listener, and easily picked up the technical advice Manny gave him. Lewis did not go to Steward to work on condition, and stamina, and spar hundreds of rounds, to prepare for fights, he went to improve his power, and technique.

Lewis was in fact a sloppy trainer, only doing enough preparation to fight to his game plan.[/quote]
LL fan though I was, that always drove me crazy. It cost him against Rahman and fortunately didn't against Vitali.

[hhaehre]

Exactly. Well stated that man, which is why he ( Bowe ) has ended up punchy.

As to the other guy. The only retards are people who gob off about Lewis, that know nothing whatsoever about how he trained and fought. I suggest you do some research before making yourself look an idiot.

You could start by reading what Steward had to say about LL. He will never say he was a dedicated trainer, what he will say is he was a great listener, and easily picked up the technical advice Manny gave him. Lewis did not go to Steward to work on condition, and stamina, and spar hundreds of rounds, to prepare for fights, he went to improve his power, and technique.

Lewis was in fact a sloppy trainer, only doing enough preparation to fight to his game plan.

You stated that Lewis was the better man compared to Bowe and Holyfield because he isn't punchy (yet). Is that because you think Lewis took so few punches during his entire career, pro and amateur?
If you believe that the punches Lewis has taken in his career, often against world class opposition, isn't enough to cause damage if the disposition is there then you really are one special kind of idiot.

Which is it with you fools who want your cake and eat it? Was Lewis in your half witted opinions only slightly less boring than the Klitchko's and OVERLY cautious, or was he gung ho, and involved in may wars?

Make your fvcking minds up.

Stop putting words in my mouth, I have not expressed an opinion on Lewis as a fighter in this thread. I have only addressed your rather stupid way of rating fighters on their medical condition in retirement. I guess your man-love for Lewis is so strong that you took my criticism of your retarded argument as criticism of Lewis and got all butt-hurt. Oh well..