Top 15 Greatest Heavyweights of All-Time

AndreWardFan2006 · Post by **AndreWardFan2006** » 20 Oct 2005, 04:49

There's nothing I love more then comparing the old best of the best fighters from Jack Johnson and Jack Dempsey to the current best of the best fighters such as the Klitschko brothers. I have collages created for the main 8 weight divisions. If someone fought as a Junior-Welterweight, I considered them simply in the Welterweight division. 15 pictures with there records above each of them. Pretty cool looking I must say, and I put many, many hours into creating them. I'm pretty positive that they all are very good collages, but I would love to hear the experts from these forums tell me who you think is the best. You are probably tired of getting these "Pound for Pound" forums everyday, but i'd appreciate the opinions. Now in each of my collages I put names where they belong. For example, I placed Whitaker in the Lightweight division because that is where he peaked. No doubt about it. So i am pretty intense on these. So let's here your Top 15 Heavyweights Of All-Time!

AndreWardFan2006 · Post by **AndreWardFan2006** » 20 Oct 2005, 04:52

Here are My Top 15 - in no order of course

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Joe Frazier
5. George Foreman
6. Mike Tyson
7. Ken Norton
8. Joe Walcott
9. Floyd Patterson
10. Sonny Liston
11. Jack Dempsey
12. Jack Johnson
13. Max Schmeling
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Larry Holmes

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 20 Oct 2005, 08:15

Andre

why do you rate Liston below Patterson when he crushed him twice in two of the most one-sided fights in history.

I also think that you overrate Norton and Tyson. I'd put Holmes and Johnson higher, Marciano too.

Your collage sounds great...

dalek · Post by **dalek** » 20 Oct 2005, 08:27

it says they are in no particular order.

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 20 Oct 2005, 09:46

Apologies...

Bradley001 · Post by **Bradley001** » 20 Oct 2005, 15:17

1.Rockey marciano
2.George foreman
3.Joe louis
4.Lennox lewis
5.Larry holmes
6.Mike tyson
7.Sonny liston
8.Gene tunney
9.Jack dempsey
10.Evander holyfield
11.Sonny liston
12.muhammed ali
13.floyd patterson
14.Joe fraizer
15.Riddick bowe

There all in mixed up order

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 20 Oct 2005, 18:22

Bradley001 wrote:1.Rockey marciano
2.George foreman
3.Joe louis
4.Lennox lewis
5.Larry holmes
6.Mike tyson
7.Sonny liston
8.Gene tunney
9.Jack dempsey
10.Evander holyfield
11.Sonny liston
12.muhammed ali
13.floyd patterson
14.Joe fraizer
15.Riddick bowe

There all in mixed up order

riddick bowe

i feel sick to my stomach

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 20 Oct 2005, 18:34

ahh i never get sick of these top 15 rankings..always fun...

1) Ali
2) Louis
3) Rocky
4) Holmes
5) Dempsey
6) Johnson
7) Joe frazier
8 ) Mike tyson
9) ezzard charles
10) Evander holyfield
11)Big george (yeah i know he should be higher)
12) James Jeffries
13) Sonny Liston
14) Floyd Patterson
15) Lennox Lewis

p.s. i hate when u do 8 ) it comes out as 8) i do it everytime

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 20 Oct 2005, 19:05

1. Joe louis
2. muhammad ali
3. rocky marciano
4. jack johnson
5. larry holmes
6. jack dempsey
7. george foreman
8. joe frazier
9. mike tyson
10. sonny liston
11. lennox lewis
12. james jeffries
13. gene tunney
14. ezzard charles
15. jersey joe walcott

HM holyfield, bowe, patterson

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 20 Oct 2005, 19:07

good call on gene tunney BB i knew i was leavign someone out

jezzamundo · Post by **jezzamundo** » 20 Oct 2005, 23:32

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes
4. George Foreman
5. Rocky Marciano
6. Joe Frazier
7. Lennox Lewis
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sonny Liston
11. Evander Holyfield
12. Mike Tyson
13. Ezzard Charles
14. Gene Tunney
15. Floyd Patterson

Tunney would be ahead of Dempsey if he had fought more at heavyweight.

AndreWardFan2006 · Post by **AndreWardFan2006** » 21 Oct 2005, 02:19

I actually put Tunney at the Light-Heavyweight division, i wasn't too sure with him i guess, and Holyfield is just destroying his career by fighting still and not going anywhere. Holyfield now is just the perfect window for any fighter who isnt known yet to whoop his ass and get a name for himself.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 21 Oct 2005, 06:39

1. Jack Johnson
2. Joe Louis
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Sonny Liston
5. Larry Holmes
6. Jack Dempsey
7. George Foreman
8. Joe Frazier
9. Jim Jeffries
10. Rocky Marciano
11. Mike Tyson
12. Gene Tunney
13. Max Baer
14. Max Schmeling
15. Jersey Joe Walcott

Next couple, in no particular order: Evander Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, Ezzard Charles, Jim Corbett, John L. Sullivan, Patterson, and Norton.

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 21 Oct 2005, 06:43

At their absolute peak in a one off fight situation:

Ali
Tyson
Foreman
Louis
Marciano
Frazier
Dempsey
Holyfield
Johnson
Holmes
Tunney
Liston
Patterson
Lewis
Norton

hawaiianpunch · Post by **hawaiianpunch** » 23 Oct 2005, 19:11

For a Career:
1. Louis
2. Ali
3. Marciano
4. Holmes
5. Tyson
6. Foreman
7. Lewis
8. Liston
9. Holyfield
10. Frazier
At their absolut best on one night:
1. Tyson
2. Ali
3. Holmes
4. Foreman
5. Lewis

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 23 Oct 2005, 20:10

Decagon wrote:1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes
4. George Foreman
5. Jack Johnson
6. Joe Frazier
7. Evander Holyfield
8. Rocky Marciano
9. Sonny Liston
10. Lennox Lewis
11. Jack Dempsey
12. Mike Tyson
13. Gene Tunney
14. Ezzard Charles
15. Jim Jeffries
16. Jersey Joe Walcott
17. Riddick Bowe
18. Ken Norton
19. Michael Spinks
20. Sam Langford
21. Jack Sharkey
22. Floyd Patterson
23. Max Schmelling
24. Earnie Shavers
25. Max Baer
26. Archie Moore
27. Harry Wills
28. Joe Jeannette
29. Ingemar Johansson
30. George Godfrey

jeannette and baer are wayyy to low... and IMO dempsey and marciano are to low. but not a bad one

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 23 Oct 2005, 22:09

i think u have to do it based on all time greatness with a little head to head. if u rank it based on soely head to head, it becomes messed up and confusing because of styles and it just doesnt work out succesfully.

i think a mixture of both or all itme greatness is the best way to go

one thing i noticed sherlock is u recently moved jeffries ahead of marciano, now i am wondering why. if u think jeffries would win a head to head matchup and thats ur reason, then fine i respect ur opinion even though i disagree. but if u rank jeffries ahead of marciano based on all time greatness, to tell u the truth u have no case.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 24 Oct 2005, 06:41

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote: one thing i noticed sherlock is u recently moved jeffries ahead of marciano, now i am wondering why. if u think jeffries would win a head to head matchup and thats ur reason, then fine i respect ur opinion even though i disagree. but if u rank jeffries ahead of marciano based on all time greatness, to tell u the truth u have no case.

Actually, either man can be 9 and the other ten. I feel that despite only 20 odd fights, Jeffries equals Marciano in achievements. Jeffries beat hall of famers Corbett twice, Fitzsimmons, and tough Tom Sharkey twice. Marciano beat Charles, Walcott, both twice, and Archie Moore. Both cleaned out their era. And both beat a pound for pound great fighter, Jackson and Louis, though both were past their best and doesn't figure into their rankings. On achievements, they're equal in my eyes, and I give Jeffries a little edge in opposition and I do favor him in a matchup with Marciano