Classic American West Coast Boxing

[kikibalt]

2013 California Boxing Hall of Fame inductees

Be careful Frank ! Rick did all those things mentioned from last year. He enlarged the journal two-fold by selling more ads than anyone can imagine (at $500 a pop/thats not easy) and wanted to remember the past great fighters that were honored. 700 people in attendance-largest ever. Don forgot he was inducting the biggest names in Boxing too. No mention of any of them during the event. Be careful Frank, or 10 minutes after the event is over, you will be crap canned like Rick was-for no reason but trying to help out the organization for the better.

Fyi Charlie, I had been with the CBHOF way before rick and never got crap canned. Last year I told Don I wanted to take the year off and to find somebody else to help him. he did and it didn't worked out too good, did it?? Charlie next time save your advise for somebody that needs it....I can do find without your crap.

[El Gallo]

2013 California Boxing Hall of Fame inductees

Be careful Frank ! Rick did all those things mentioned from last year. He enlarged the journal two-fold by selling more ads than anyone can imagine (at $500 a pop/thats not easy) and wanted to remember the past great fighters that were honored. 700 people in attendance-largest ever. Don forgot he was inducting the biggest names in Boxing too. No mention of any of them during the event. Be careful Frank, or 10 minutes after the event is over, you will be crap canned like Rick was-for no reason but trying to help out the organization for the better.

Fyi Charlie, I had been with the CBHOF way before rick and never got crap canned. Last year I told Don I wanted to take the year off and to find somebody else to help him. he did and it didn't worked out too good, did it?? Charlie next time save your advise for somebody that needs it....I can do find without your crap.

Frank, you are very naive, to the point of simple. If you heard how Don spoke of you last year you'd really be pissed. I know much more about the CBHOF, and Hall of Fame events and history than you ever could. Plus it's something I'm a lot better at than you. What happened is much better for me, as I don't want my name associated with a historically incorrect organiation, and many others feel the same. Do what you do, and so should Don, you two wont hurt what is in the works. Good luck to you and your weak ego.

[El Gallo]

2013 California Boxing Hall of Fame inductees

Be careful Frank ! Rick did all those things mentioned from last year. He enlarged the journal two-fold by selling more ads than anyone can imagine (at $500 a pop/thats not easy) and wanted to remember the past great fighters that were honored. 700 people in attendance-largest ever. Don forgot he was inducting the biggest names in Boxing too. No mention of any of them during the event. Be careful Frank, or 10 minutes after the event is over, you will be crap canned like Rick was-for no reason but trying to help out the organization for the better.

Fyi Charlie, I had been with the CBHOF way before rick and never got crap canned. Last year I told Don I wanted to take the year off and to find somebody else to help him. he did and it didn't worked out too good, did it?? Charlie next time save your advise for somebody that needs it....I can do find without your crap.

Frank can't get fired, he has no responsibilities.
It was good for me to show Don how to make his event more profitable, however, he refused suggestions designed to make it "better".
But that's OK, it's going toward something better. If you remember Frank, a few years back, it was you who called me and asked if I would call Don Fraser and nominate Tony & Frankie Jr. for CBHOF induction. Remember that, Frank? However, I told you I really didn't know Don at the time and could not. I did create the WBHOF's Johnny Flores Award, something I designed to award you. What type action of that nature do you do for the CBHOF. Don said you were a "Pain in the ass complainer". But he did not elaborate. Want to compare your Hall of Fame contributions and accomplishments with mine? I don't think so. And although the father of pro boxers, all you have to tell are other people's stories, you never fought.

[BoxBuzz]

Walking by.....just happened to pick up on the conversation...

I know full well how easily chiming in on this could lead to my ending up on the receiving end of some of the better educated crosses, hooks, jabs and combinations ever known or thrown. I've always been in pursuit of higher education, as I am one of those who habitually looks to learn and pick up a few tips when I can......

So about one nano second later, I'm thinkin' to myself... just keep on walking Buzz........ahh yes!! I see a door just a few more steps down the hall....exit....stage right......lol.

[dagosd2000]

Blacks,Baseball,And Boxing

Watching the big league baseball game on TV a week or so ago,one of the announcers said that the league is forming a committee wanting to know why black kids who live in the inner cities aren't playing in the major leagues. You can say black kids who don't live in the inner cities aren't wearing major league uniforms either. I wonder who they are going to recruit and pay for this study? It's like there is a hint that inner city black kids aren't getting an opportunity to play in the bigs. Black kids aren't in the boxing rings like there used to be also.Is it a conspiracy?

I don't think any of the boxing commissions or promotors are going to put up any of their dough to find out why. Gee,I really want to find out the mystery. But if boxing or baseball want to pay me to investigate ,I'll put on the dog and pony show.

As I'm writing this I'm watching the NBA playoffs on the television. There's 10 black guys on the court. Remember,each team plays with 5 players. My sister just got their Chargers season tickets with their playbook. The stating defensive 11 are all black ballplayers.

I guess pro football and pro basketball aren't putting up any barriers or discrimmination with these athletes. If pro boxing or major league baseball want my input,I'm out there for the asking and the right price.

[dagosd2000]

Bob Montgomery

[kikibalt]

Frank can't get fired, he has no responsibilities.
It was good for me to show Don how to make his event more profitable, however, he refused suggestions designed to make it "better".
But that's OK, it's going toward something better. If you remember Frank, a few years back, it was you who called me and asked if I would call Don Fraser and nominate Tony & Frankie Jr. for CBHOF induction. Remember that, Frank? However, I told you I really didn't know Don at the time and could not. I did create the WBHOF's Johnny Flores Award, something I designed to award you. What type action of that nature do you do for the CBHOF. Don said you were a "Pain in the ass complainer". But he did not elaborate. Want to compare your Hall of Fame contributions and accomplishments with mine? I don't think so. And although the father of pro boxers, all you have to tell are other people's stories, you never fought.[/quote]

I usually don't responses to bipolar rants, but I'll answer you on this rant rick. First of all you again got your story wrong because I didn't call you to nominate Frankie and Tony, I did that on my own, so don't take credit when it's not due. If you can get yourself to see through that haze of weed smoke you'll remember that we hadn't see or talk in over 40 years. It was in 2007 that we seen or talk for the first time in those 40 years, and the boys were inducted in 2006. Your ego is making you tell falsehoods.....The WBHOF Johnnie Flores Award? you did create that for me, I give you that. Now tell us who got you inducted into the CBHOF, or should I tell who did? okay it was me. Accomplishments in boxing in general? your resume don't began to compare with mine...Father of pro boxers? yes I am that. Did I boxed pro? no, but I never claimed I did, my ego is not as big as yours to make such a claim...I actually feel sorry for you. You who wanted to be a great boxer since you were a kid, but who couldn't be more than a preliminary boy that couldn't win even 50% of your fights. But unlike you I am man enough to give credit where it due, and yes I give you credit for stepping into the ring as a pro, something I didn't do because I knew I wasn't good enough to do so....I wish you well in your effort to make a name for yourself outside the boxing ring, because inside the ring you couldn't do that...As for me having a weak ego, I would say I don't have an ego at all, unlike you I don't go around pounding my chest and telling people that don't know much better how much I know and how much I have done in boxing, that not my style, I'll let my resume speak for me.....I will not response to anymore bipolar rants.

[El Gallo]

Frank, yes you did ask me to call Don about Tony & Frankie (your selective memory), and as I said, I told you I could not as I didn't know Don at the time, had not fought for him for years. Yes, you did nominate me for CBHOF honors, and I was kind of amazed, because I never considered myself a Hall of Famer, anymore than you are. It's nice when guys who did nothing special in boxing can get inducted into a Hall of Fame, guys like you and me, but my new group is not going to compromise boxing history by inducting my friends. That is what the CBHOF is, an organization that mixes the best with those who have no business being inducted. That is why you are in the CBHOF and why I am in the CBHOF. Nether of us will qualify for the next organization. However, I have a lot more actual boxing experience than you, and it is on record. Never claimed to be a great fighter, but my memory is much better than yours, and not so selective, and I actually can prove that I have been in the ring with world class fighters, all you have is stories but no proof. I also arranged for you to be interviewed for a major documentary that is about to be released. Sorry your interview didn't make the final cut. Again. let's compare what I have accomplished with regard to Hall of Fame involvment and what you have accomplished. The thing that makes your "rants" so funny is your inability to spell even simple words. How about showing us your resume? And what are you going to do about your group's inaccurate honor roll? Nothing, right?

[CNorkusJr]

Actually, Tony and Frankie Jr were excellent boxers and deserved to be in the CA BHOF on their own MERITS, and didnt need any prodding, unless Don forgot about them in his older age.
Looking over the list, I can tell you that quite a few New Yorkers are going to be in attendance. Guests of guests, and it will be interesting to see if everyone listed will get their bios read aloud to honor their induction like they should. Last year I informed Don that Louis Marciano (Rocky's brother) is alive and in good health, and if he wished, I could contact him to come and accept Rocky's award.He told me he'll see. No reply from him after. What a shame -not even a mention at the dinner-Rocky Marciano.
Lets see- this year, Carmen Basilio, Joey Giambra and all the other CA great boxers also. Lets see how many are forgotten-and their names used to sell tickets-something promoters are good for.
I did put Don in touch with Gil Clancy's daughter for this year and hopefully she will be going to accept the her dad's award. Clancy worked with many fighters in CA.

[kikibalt]

Frank, yes you did ask me to call Don about Tony & Frankie (your selective memory), and as I said, I told you I could not as I didn't know Don at the time, had not fought for him for years. Yes, you did nominate me for CBHOF honors, and I was kind of amazed, because I never considered myself a Hall of Famer, anymore than you are. It's nice when guys who did nothing special in boxing can get inducted into a Hall of Fame, guys like you and me, but my new group is not going to compromise boxing history by inducting my friends. That is what the CBHOF is, an organization that mixes the best with those who have no business being inducted. That is why you are in the CBHOF and why I am in the CBHOF. Nether of us will qualify for the next organization. However, I have a lot more actual boxing experience than you, and it is on record. Never claimed to be a great fighter, but my memory is much better than yours, and not so selective, and I actually can prove that I have been in the ring with world class fighters, all you have is stories but no proof. I also arranged for you to be interviewed for a major documentary that is about to be released. Sorry your interview didn't make the final cut. Again. let's compare what I have accomplished with regard to Hall of Fame involvment and what you have accomplished. The thing that makes your "rants" so funny is your inability to spell even simple words. How about showing us your resume? And what are you going to do about your group's inaccurate honor roll? Nothing, right?

The weed has you thinking that I called you to nominate the boys when in fact I never called you, and why should I had called you when all I had to do was call Don, which is what I did. You're trying too hard to feel important my friend. Sure you were in the ring with some great boxers who used you as a punching bag, hell of a resume you have there. Here in short is what I did in boxing.

"Boxing caught my attention at the age of 10 (1946). I boxed as a Jr. and Sr. amateur from 1948 to 1964. I quit boxing to dedicate my time working with the Jr. Golden Gloves fighters. I served as director of the Jr. Golden Gloves for ten years.

In 1973, I moved up as the director and head coach of the Los Angeles Golden Gloves team. I took the 1973 Los Angeles Golden Gloves Team to Boston for the National Golden Gloves Tournament. The team included Randy Shields, Frankie Duarte and Roy Hollis who was the lone winner.

The next year, 1974, I took a team to Denver. Two of our boxer, Art Frias and Zeffy Gonzalez went on to have successful pro careers. Frias won the World Lightweight Championship in 1981.

In 1971 I became Vice President of the Southern California Coaches and Managers Association. 1980-’86 I was the amateur matchmaker at the Olympic Auditorium. I managed and trained my three sons, Frankie, Tony and Bobby who fought and defeated some of the top pros of the 1970s-1980s"

I could go on, but what's the point...Now go a-head and rant which is what you are good at.

[El Gallo]

Actually, Tony and Frankie Jr were excellent boxers and deserved to be in the CA BHOF on their own MERITS, and didnt need any prodding, unless Don forgot about them in his older age.
Looking over the list, I can tell you that quite a few New Yorkers are going to be in attendance. Guests of guests, and it will be interesting to see if everyone listed will get their bios read aloud to honor their induction like they should. Last year I informed Don that Louis Marciano (Rocky's brother) is alive and in good health, and if he wished, I could contact him to come and accept Rocky's award.He told me he'll see. No reply from him after. What a shame -not even a mention at the dinner-Rocky Marciano.
Lets see- this year, Carmen Basilio, Joey Giambra and all the other CA great boxers also. Lets see how many are forgotten-and their names used to sell tickets-something promoters are good for.
I did put Don in touch with Gil Clancy's daughter for this year and hopefully she will be going to accept the her dad's award. Clancy worked with many fighters in CA.

Charley, Frank Baltazar had disrespected Louis Marciano on a Facebook boxing site he posts on. A lot of people saw this. Marciano wanted no part of the CBHOF after his encounter with this fan group. Louis claimed the group (the Facebook "Fight Group" not the CBHOF) refused to acknowledge anything but Latino fighters, not even the only undeafeated World Heavyweight champ. Last year I told Don I planned to induct Joey Giambra (a longtime personal friend who is more than qualified), Lamon Brewster (who was a guest at my table last year, and a former heavyweight champ), Frank Santillan, Tiger Smalls, Jose Lopez, etc. Don asked me who I planned to induct this year (the "selection Committee" really does not exist, but provides a way for Don to mention those who help him.) I'm glad to see that Don has decided to take advantage of a few that I chose to induct. He knows each will bring in the $. When I parted company with the CBHOF, Frank Santillan's wife called Frank to see if the group still planned on inducting her husband. Frank told her- "He does not qualify." So she calls Don and Don remembers that I had Frankie work as Don's caretaker one weekend when his daughter was out of town. Don informed Frankie's wife that he would be inducted, thus making Frank's words meaningless. C'mon Frank, how could you say that after the CBHOf had inducted you, a guy who never fought. I guess if a man does not work for a living, he makes sure his wife works and then points his children toward a career in the ring. Frank, you deserve to be inducted into the "Kept Man" Hall of Fame Boxing? No! And Frank, maybe you are the one who has a problem with Marijuana, not me. I'm glad you didn't run away from this, as you usually do when you can't handle the heat of disagreement. Frank, lets be honest, in the 60's and 70's when I was boxing pro, you weren't around the big gyms, you were unknown outside of the Jr. Golden Gloves where you were a coach. I was handled by Johnny Flores, a real fight manager, and I never saw you at the Main Street Gym between 1965-75. You had good reason for avoiding trading blows with pros, your skin is too thin!

[El Gallo]

I wrote a nice story about Frank, after he was inducted into the CBHOF. Today he still posts that story proudly, but the little man has removed the "By Rick Farris" line. That's Frank And Frank, you are the pot head, don't think you are insulting me, I have a great life. What's around the corner for you champ? And Frank, don't suggest that you "don't respond to rants". You will respond to anything I seek a response to, and you know it. I have to go light a film set, so for the moment, you are excused.

[El Gallo]

My resume:

1965-68: Jr. Golden Gloves record, 40-5-1 (12 KO's)
*Jr Golden Gloves Champion (1968) Open class 96-105 lbs.
*Jr. Golden gloves Champion (1967) Open class 86-95 lbs.
*Jr. Golden Gloves (2nd place) (1966) 76-85 lbs.
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Amateur 1969-70: 18-3-1 (6 KO's)
1969 Western Region Golden Gloves Flyweght Champion (open class) Went to GG's Nationals in Kansas City. (Lost in quarter finals)
1969 Southern Pacific AAU Flyweight Champion (open class) Went to AAU National Championships in San Diego.
1970 Diamond Belt Bantamweight Champion
1970 Las Vegas Golden Gloves Bantamweight Champion (Repd Las Vegas in the '70 National Golden Gloves tournament in L.V.)
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Turned professional at age 18 while a senior in high school. 8-10-2 (2 KO's)
Don Fraser presented me with a watch for my part in what he called "The 6 round fight of the year" at the The Forum in 1972.

Published Boxing writer, World Boxing Hall of Fame Historian, World Boxing Hall of Fame Executive Committee Director, World Boxing Hall of Fame Selection committee Chairman, Vice President of the CBHOF.

Trained Boxers amateur & professional boxers at the Madison Gym in Phoenix, Arizona between 1999-2002

[El Gallo]

Frank, yes you did ask me to call Don about Tony & Frankie (your selective memory), and as I said, I told you I could not as I didn't know Don at the time, had not fought for him for years. Yes, you did nominate me for CBHOF honors, and I was kind of amazed, because I never considered myself a Hall of Famer, anymore than you are. It's nice when guys who did nothing special in boxing can get inducted into a Hall of Fame, guys like you and me, but my new group is not going to compromise boxing history by inducting my friends. That is what the CBHOF is, an organization that mixes the best with those who have no business being inducted. That is why you are in the CBHOF and why I am in the CBHOF. Nether of us will qualify for the next organization. However, I have a lot more actual boxing experience than you, and it is on record. Never claimed to be a great fighter, but my memory is much better than yours, and not so selective, and I actually can prove that I have been in the ring with world class fighters, all you have is stories but no proof. I also arranged for you to be interviewed for a major documentary that is about to be released. Sorry your interview didn't make the final cut. Again. let's compare what I have accomplished with regard to Hall of Fame involvment and what you have accomplished. The thing that makes your "rants" so funny is your inability to spell even simple words. We all make typos on occasion, but for the most part people who write stories should learn how to spell baic English words. How about showing us your resume? And what are you going to do about your group's inaccurate honor roll? Nothing, right?

The weed has you thinking that I called you to nominate the boys when in fact I never called you, and why should I had called you when all I had to do was call Don, which is what I did. You're trying too hard to feel important my friend. Sure you were in the ring with some great boxers who used you as a punching bag, hell of a resume you have there. Here in short is what I did in boxing.

"Boxing caught my attention at the age of 10 (1946). I boxed as a Jr. and Sr. amateur from 1948 to 1964. I quit boxing to dedicate my time working with the Jr. Golden Gloves fighters. I served as director of the Jr. Golden Gloves for ten years.

In 1973, I moved up as the director and head coach of the Los Angeles Golden Gloves team. I took the 1973 Los Angeles Golden Gloves Team to Boston for the National Golden Gloves Tournament. The team included Randy Shields, Frankie Duarte and Roy Hollis who was the lone winner.

The next year, 1974, I took a team to Denver. Two of our boxer, Art Frias and Zeffy Gonzalez went on to have successful pro careers. Frias won the World Lightweight Championship in 1981.

In 1971 I became Vice President of the Southern California Coaches and Managers Association. 1980-’86 I was the amateur matchmaker at the Olympic Auditorium. I managed and trained my three sons, Frankie, Tony and Bobby who fought and defeated some of the top pros of the 1970s-1980s"

I could go on, but what's the point...Now go a-head and rant which is what you are good at.

You can't go on because thats all there is, that's the point.
And Frank, sometime back you boasted before internet regulars, that you used your food stamps to purchase alcohol.
How is that working out for you? Maybe with all of your health challenges you should put the money the government gives you for food into something a little more healthy. You have never met a healthier 61-year-old than I am. I didn't get that way abusing my body and mind with drugs. The medication I provided for Don Fraser last year, when he was undergoing radiation therapy, was the highest of quality, and Don was very appreciative. I also drove him to many of his doctor's visits, paid my share of any lunches we shared while we were out. I drove Don to the printers and gave them the info Don kept forgetting. I constantly had to remind him of money he'd received for tickets but forgot to mail out. I wrote all but three of the 25 bios recorded in the Journal last year, I sold $thousands in advertising, did the PR necessary to have feature stories written about the event in four publications, suggested selling "sponsorships" of posthumous legends, which filled more seats and generated even more advertising income, helped organize the event despite Don's disorganized methods. Worst of all, I had to listen to a lot of talk behind the backs of just about everybody involved with local boxing, including yourself. I just wanted to learn more about promoting HOF events, I learned only what NOT TO DO! You and your fan group can run the CBHOF into the ground, it won't matter as I will comeback with something that will carry on boxing history properly. What do you do, aside from demand more free seating from Don? And once again, you address the little issues, but what about THE HONOR ROLL! You don't care about that do you, and you also don't understand it? I understand what's happening with Don, he does not want anybody to make the CBHOF more successful than he could. And I'm glad I don't have to clean up the honor roll mess he has created. Don can deny this, but guys like Charley Norkus Jr. and Dan Hanley saw it all go down, up close and personal, so save your story for your Fight Group. Now I'm done with you. Play your internet games, I'm putting the fighters first!

[dagosd2000]

Solitude

Every time I get the car dented or I need a little paint touch up I drive down to TJ to a little place that does body and fender work. I've been going there for 40 years. Even my dad used to go there. I turned him on to the place years sgo. I don't know the name of the shop. It's located across the street on the west side of Parque Guerrero near the old downtown. The place was once a bunch of little houses that were gutted out so people can drive their cars inside to have the work done.Probably once every two years I need to have something done. Like clockwork the owner and his crew are leaning outside against the cars with hammers in hand hustling for customers.
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There are about a dozen of similar little places like this. Some guys even work in the street beside the park.

Oh it was quite a while back when I tell this story. My father had passed away. I took his old Ford down to get some body work done.Sure enough there was Pepe,the owner ,with his crew in the street waving their hammers. Pepe saw me right away.
"Rogelio,como estas amigo?"
"Muy bien amigo,"I said.
He was wearing an old shirt full of holes and full of grease. He still had the beard. His gut was the same.He was well fed and happy. I sometime wondered if he ever went home. But he had to. He had a wife and a slew of kids. Some of the boys worked for him. They learning the trade from their father.
"How's your father?"he asked.
I pointed up to the sky.
"I'm very sorry. Jose was a good man. Everyone liked him. He made us laugh a lot."

I showed Pepe what was needed on the car. The door latch on the passenger side was jammed,a dent on the hood and a big dent on the front fender,and the back bumper needed banging out.
"Que dices Pepe?"
Pepe and his crew walked around the car rubbing their hands on the dents.
"Oh I think 100 dollars."
"Can you do it for 80,"I winked.
"I do it for 100 and I paint over the dents."
"It's a deal amigo."
"You want clear coat too?"
"No.Not for this car."
"Rogelio. You come back in 2 hours."
I shook his hand.
"Here's 50 bucks now and the other half when I get back."
I handed Pepe the money.
"Seguro",he said.

As usual when I had to wait for my car,I'd walk across the street to the park and sit on a bench and read a book. A library is in the park. It's very small with not many books on the shelf. Maybe there are a few people inside. Sometimes I go in there and read,but it was a nice day so I decided to read my book on a park bench.

The book I brought was a biography on Napoleon. I read for a while,then put the book down and looked through the park. The mothers with their children playing on the swings. I saw the man selling candy. The man selling the balloons. Taco vendors. The man with the ice cream and raspados. All the different colorful hand painted little carts. The "bolero' was on the corner. The old shoeshine guy was talking to someone sitting on a bench next to his stand. Little kids ran around chasing each other. The benches in the shade were full of people sitting and resting. They were by themselves.They seemed alone in their thoughts. There was still some room on the benches that were in the sun.I sat on one of those benches. I was thinking of getting a raspado. A lime one, when some guy sat down next to me. I was sitting in the sun feeling the light breeze. I was watching a man sweeping the park with one of those homemade brooms with the twigs tied around the bottom of the stick.A tall man walked up to the bench I was sitting on and asked me if the space next to me was occupied.
"No esta ocupado,"I answered.
"Gracias,"he said and sat down.
I looked at the man sweeping with the broom. I could see the man next to me was looking at the worker also.
"They should buy that guy a leaf blower,"I said to the man next to me."It would make his work easier."
The man looked straight ahead at the worker.
"Maybe if they give him that he doesn't come back to work the next day,"he said still staring at the man with the broom.
"I never thought of that ,"I said.
"Asi es Mexico,"the man next to me said as he turned and smiled.
I stopped looking at the man with the broom. I got up and walked towards the man selling raspados. As I walked I heard the creaking of the swings the kids were playing on.

[dagosd2000]

Raspado stand-Parque Guerrero, Tijuana, Mexico

[Cholo]

My resume:

1965-68: Jr. Golden Gloves record, 40-5-1 (12 KO's)
*Jr Golden Gloves Champion (1968) Open class 96-105 lbs.
*Jr. Golden gloves Champion (1967) Open class 86-95 lbs.
*Jr. Golden Gloves (2nd place) (1966) 76-85 lbs.
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Amateur 1969-70: 18-3-1 (6 KO's)
1969 Western Region Golden Gloves Flyweght Champion (open class) Went to GG's Nationals in Kansas City. (Lost in quarter finals)
1969 Southern Pacific AAU Flyweight Champion (open class) Went to AAU National Championships in San Diego.
1970 Diamond Belt Bantamweight Champion
1970 Las Vegas Golden Gloves Bantamweight Champion (Repd Las Vegas in the '70 National Golden Gloves tournament in L.V.)
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Turned professional at age 18 while a senior in high school. 8-10-2 (2 KO's)
Don Fraser presented me with a watch for my part in what he called "The 6 round fight of the year" at the The Forum in 1972.

Published Boxing writer, World Boxing Hall of Fame Historian, World Boxing Hall of Fame Executive Committee Director, World Boxing Hall of Fame Selection committee Chairman, Vice President of the CBHOF.

Trained Boxers amateur & professional boxers at the Madison Gym in Phoenix, Arizona between 1999-2002

Rick, not a bad resume buddy..

[El Gallo]

One last thing to rattle Kiki's memory:

Kiki wrote: "you'll remember that we hadn't see or talk in over 40 years. It was in 2007 that we seen or talk for the first time in those 40 years, and the boys were inducted in 2006."

Frank and I had not physically seen each other in 40 years, however, we began communicating on the internet through the CBZ in '2001.
How many of you have met me face to face? Not many who post here, right? Same with Kiki and I, we were in contact by both e-mail, internet and phone for years before we remet in 2007. He started his request to me to call Don about Tony & Frankie Jr. a year before they were inducted in '2006. I told Frank I could not call Don as he asked me to do. So I imagine Frank called himself? Frank is known to call local boxing writers and try to get them to write about his sons, he's not afraid to push people. I don't begrudge him that, I will push people myself, however, Frank seems to forget that we had been in contact for a half dozen years and worked through the internet. Dan Hanley is aware of this, as he was also a part of the CBZ, and all that Frank & I have been involved with, save Facebook. It's kind of hard to deny internet verification. One thing I do have is a clear memory of time and places, and I have also kept records of that which I think might be important one day. When somebody makes a false claim, as Kiki just did, best the internet not contain proof to the contrary.

And once again: "Kiki has left the building!"

[El Gallo]

My resume:

1965-68: Jr. Golden Gloves record, 40-5-1 (12 KO's)
*Jr Golden Gloves Champion (1968) Open class 96-105 lbs.
*Jr. Golden gloves Champion (1967) Open class 86-95 lbs.
*Jr. Golden Gloves (2nd place) (1966) 76-85 lbs.
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Amateur 1969-70: 18-3-1 (6 KO's)
1969 Western Region Golden Gloves Flyweght Champion (open class) Went to GG's Nationals in Kansas City. (Lost in quarter finals)
1969 Southern Pacific AAU Flyweight Champion (open class) Went to AAU National Championships in San Diego.
1970 Diamond Belt Bantamweight Champion
1970 Las Vegas Golden Gloves Bantamweight Champion (Repd Las Vegas in the '70 National Golden Gloves tournament in L.V.)
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Turned professional at age 18 while a senior in high school. 8-10-2 (2 KO's)
Don Fraser presented me with a watch for my part in what he called "The 6 round fight of the year" at the The Forum in 1972.

Published Boxing writer, World Boxing Hall of Fame Historian, World Boxing Hall of Fame Executive Committee Director, World Boxing Hall of Fame Selection committee Chairman, Vice President of the CBHOF.

Trained Boxers amateur & professional boxers at the Madison Gym in Phoenix, Arizona between 1999-2002

Rick, not a bad resume buddy..

Sparring partner for Duran, Arguello, Olivares, Lopez, Chacon, to name a few.
Chest pounding? No, a fact and I am proud of it. Nobody ever heard me claim to be in their league, but I was in a ring alone with these guys and we were boxing hard. For me, it was especially nice, as I didn't have to go into boxing for economic reasons, and my dad didn't push me ever, let alone when I was not yet in kindergarten. It was my choice, and I had to be very creative to make it happen, but I did. And when I was done, I went into a great career in the film industry. 36 years I've been doing this. Amazing how an uneducated barrio dude has the nerve to offer a psycho analysis of me. Rather than try to diagnose my mind, you might want to first go back to elementary school and learn how to spell!

[dagosd2000]

Tiger's Cubs

I'll be going up to the CBHOF in October.I'll be sitting at Tiger Smalls' table with my grandson Adam. It'll be a good experience for Adam.He'll see how fighters are probably the most squared away guys in the sports world. Oh some didn't land on their feet after hanging them up,but the class will come through non the less.

Adam likes boxing and I give that credit to Tiger Smalls. Tiger lights up the gym when he walks in the door. He trains his son,Prince,a feather weight who'll make his pro debut across the street at the 4 Points Sheridan in June. But Tiger has other responsibilties. He teaches classes on the art of self defense to all shapes,sizes,genders,and ages. What I like is that they respond to Tiger. He's upbeat,happy. I see the confidence building with his students. They feel good because Tiger encourages.He knows that these classes mean a lot to them. They look forward to having Tiger as their coach. Tiger feels good that his students are feeling good about themselves.It's a two way street with no traffic jams.

I asked Tiger to do me a favor the other day. My grand daughter Amanda has to do a presentation for her psychology class inviting a guest speaker. I suggested Tiger. I asked Tiger and he said he'd do it.Amanda and Tiger exchanged information. Tiger asked me what he should do.
"Tiger. Just be yourself. You're loved here because people see you care about them."
Tiger thought for a moment.
"I'll bring my belts and the mayor's key to the city."
"Good. Why don't you bring Prince too? You two can put on a little exhibition for the class. Field questions.Talk about your growing up in Brooklyn."
"I'll do it,"he said.
"Tiger,these kids have never seen a professional fighter before. They'll soak you in with eyes wide open."
"I'm not used to this,but I'll do it."
"I know your idol was Ali. You met him when you were a kid. Ali was the most popular athlete in the world. Not so much that he was a fighter,but that he cared about people. He could talk in front of anyone. From the President to villagers in Zaire. People could see that he cared. You have that."
"Thank you. Thank you. I feel good about that ,"he said giving me the thumbs up and smiling.

He returned to his class walking up to each student instructing,correcting ,demonstrating,encouraging. They hung on every word. The energy could of lit up a city.

After the sesssion was over I saw Tiger walking with his son in the parking lot. He gave me the Tiger smile with a thumbs up.
"Remember,Tiger,"I said,"you didn't get the key to the city for being a fighter."

[El Gallo]

Tiger's Cubs

I'll be going up to the CBHOF in October.I'll be sitting at Tiger Smalls' table with my grandson Adam. It'll be a good experience for Adam.He'll see how fighters are probably the most squared away guys in the sports world. Oh some didn't land on their feet after hanging them up,but the class will come through non the less.

Adam likes boxing and I give that credit to Tiger Smalls. Tiger lights up the gym when he walks in the door. He trains his son,Prince,a feather weight who'll make his pro debut across the street at the 4 Points Sheridan in June. But Tiger has other responsibilties. He teaches classes on the art of self defense to all shapes,sizes,genders,and ages. What I like is that they respond to Tiger. He's upbeat,happy. I see the confidence building with his students. They feel good because Tiger encourages.He knows that these classes mean a lot to them. They look forward to having Tiger as their coach. Tiger feels good that his students are feeling good about themselves.It's a two way street with no traffic jams.

I asked Tiger to do me a favor the other day. My grand daughter Amanda has to do a presentation for her psychology class inviting a guest speaker. I suggested Tiger. I asked Tiger and he said he'd do it.Amanda and Tiger exchanged information. Tiger asked me what he should do.
"Tiger. Just be yourself. You're loved here because people see you care about them."
Tiger thought for a moment.
"I'll bring my belts and the mayor's key to the city."
"Good. Why don't you bring Prince too? You two can put on a little exhibition for the class. Field questions.Talk about your growing up in Brooklyn."
"I'll do it,"he said.
"Tiger,these kids have never seen a professional fighter before. They'll soak you in with eyes wide open."
"I'm not used to this,but I'll do it."
"I know your idol was Ali. You met him when you were a kid. Ali was the most popular athlete in the world. Not so much that he was a fighter,but that he cared about people. He could talk in front of anyone. From the President to villagers in Zaire. People could see that he cared. You have that."
"Thank you. Thank you. I feel good about that ,"he said giving me the thumbs up and smiling.

He returned to his class walking up to each student instructing,correcting ,demonstrating,encouraging. They hung on every word. The energy could of lit up a city.

After the sesssion was over I saw Tiger walking with his son in the parking lot. He gave me the Tiger smile with a thumbs up.
"Remember,Tiger,"I said,"you didn't get the key to the city for being a fighter."

Brilliant, Roger!
I spoke with Tiger today. I have vids of son Prince in action. This kid is a special talent, and as we also know, so is dad!
Glad you'll be attending the event, and I'm happy Prince and Pop will be sharing something special with Amanda's class.

[dagosd2000]

.Thanks Rick.

[Cholo]

My resume:

1965-68: Jr. Golden Gloves record, 40-5-1 (12 KO's)
*Jr Golden Gloves Champion (1968) Open class 96-105 lbs.
*Jr. Golden gloves Champion (1967) Open class 86-95 lbs.
*Jr. Golden Gloves (2nd place) (1966) 76-85 lbs.
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Amateur 1969-70: 18-3-1 (6 KO's)
1969 Western Region Golden Gloves Flyweght Champion (open class) Went to GG's Nationals in Kansas City. (Lost in quarter finals)
1969 Southern Pacific AAU Flyweight Champion (open class) Went to AAU National Championships in San Diego.
1970 Diamond Belt Bantamweight Champion
1970 Las Vegas Golden Gloves Bantamweight Champion (Repd Las Vegas in the '70 National Golden Gloves tournament in L.V.)
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Turned professional at age 18 while a senior in high school. 8-10-2 (2 KO's)
Don Fraser presented me with a watch for my part in what he called "The 6 round fight of the year" at the The Forum in 1972.

Published Boxing writer, World Boxing Hall of Fame Historian, World Boxing Hall of Fame Executive Committee Director, World Boxing Hall of Fame Selection committee Chairman, Vice President of the CBHOF.

Trained Boxers amateur & professional boxers at the Madison Gym in Phoenix, Arizona between 1999-2002

Rick, not a bad resume buddy..

Sparring partner for Duran, Arguello, Olivares, Lopez, Chacon, to name a few.
Chest pounding? No, a fact and I am proud of it. Nobody ever heard me claim to be in their league, but I was in a ring alone with these guys and we were boxing hard. For me, it was especially nice, as I didn't have to go into boxing for economic reasons, and my dad didn't push me ever, let alone when I was not yet in kindergarten. It was my choice, and I had to be very creative to make it happen, but I did. And when I was done, I went into a great career in the film industry. 36 years I've been doing this. Amazing how an uneducated barrio dude has the nerve to offer a psycho analysis of me. Rather than try to diagnose my mind, you might want to first go back to elementary school and learn how to spell!

Sparring with those guys Rick must have been something else, legends..

[CNorkusJr]

Going to fights here Saturday nite. Main event Vinnie Maddalone NY heavy vs Richard Carmack, undefeated heavy. Maddalone on comeback trail after losing to Tyson Fury. . On undercard, San Diego born Yathomas Riley (now of Florida) undefeated vs Lionel Thompson. Lt Heavies. Riley was National GG champ & one time Olympic hopeful.

Carmack-though undefeated, says he's one of a few fighters still fighting over 300+ pounds. Hopefully Vinnie wont look like a giant cheeseburger to him.
Not bad-$45 " Ring 8 member"- tickets puts you up close.

[El Gallo]

Going to fights here Saturday nite. Main event Vinnie Maddalone NY heavy vs Richard Carmack, undefeated heavy. Maddalone on comeback trail after losing to Tyson Fury. . On undercard, San Diego born Yathomas Riley (now of Florida) undefeated vs Lionel Thompson. Lt Heavies. Riley was National GG champ & one time Olympic hopeful.

Carmack-though undefeated, says he's one of a few fighters still fighting over 300+ pounds. Hopefully Vinnie wont look like a giant cheeseburger to him.
Not bad-$45 " Ring 8 member"- tickets puts you up close.

Have a good time, Charley. Are the fights being held at that new arena in Brooklyn?