Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
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CrazyHorse
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Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
Both were beats 
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ReggieDiggs
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Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
John Wesley Hardin was quicker.

Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
ReggieDiggs wrote:John Wesley Hardin was quicker.
I'd say this belongs in BOTP.
Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
Yeah, they both were beats. But SRL was around 124bpm. Ali a bit under at 120bpm.CrazyHorse wrote:Both were beats
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marcianofan
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Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
Is this in like a pound for pound sense? Like compared to their competition? I mean Sugar Ray was like 2/3 Ali's size. He'd have to be faster.
Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
I guess it's how you define speed . Ali's jab was timed faster than Ray Robinsons but there would be many variables to considermarcianofan wrote:Is this in like a pound for pound sense? Like compared to their competition? I mean Sugar Ray was like 2/3 Ali's size. He'd have to be faster.
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uptconnect
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Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
I think that in a relative sense, as in the difference between Ali's speed advantage over other heavyweights and Ray's speed advantage over the other little guys, Ali was faster than his opposition to a greater degree than Ray.
Head to head, a little guy will almost always be faster than a heavyweight. Ray could probably throw 3 punches to one for any heavyweight.
It's simple physics.
I say this out of my ass though, it may well have been proven otherwise.
So, in my opinion, Ray was/is faster than Ali, but out of the two during their careers, Ali had a greater speed advantage when in the ring.
Head to head, a little guy will almost always be faster than a heavyweight. Ray could probably throw 3 punches to one for any heavyweight.
It's simple physics.
I say this out of my ass though, it may well have been proven otherwise.
So, in my opinion, Ray was/is faster than Ali, but out of the two during their careers, Ali had a greater speed advantage when in the ring.
Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
Will we ever know? Surely a beat can't beat another beat.
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marcianofan
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Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
My thoughts exactly.uptconnect wrote:I think that in a relative sense, as in the difference between Ali's speed advantage over other heavyweights and Ray's speed advantage over the other little guys, Ali was faster than his opposition to a greater degree than Ray.
Head to head, a little guy will almost always be faster than a heavyweight. Ray could probably throw 3 punches to one for any heavyweight.
It's simple physics.
I say this out of my ass though, it may well have been proven otherwise.
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So, in my opinion, Ray was/is faster than Ali, but out of the two during their careers, Ali had a greater speed advantage when in the ring.
Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
My thoughts exactly.Jaywheel wrote:Will we ever know? Surely a beat can't beat another beat.
Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
SRL, obviously
... needless to say, he was a beats
... needless to say, he was a beats
Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
Sugar Ray Leonard I would have to think was faster. I would think being a little more than 60 pounds lighter has to count for something in the speed department.
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CrazyHorse
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Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
Someone told me that Ali was faster than Mayweather, Pacquiao, SRL, or SRR and I had to ask what you fine gentlemen thought. At 17-0 for SRL I would have to say Case Closed 
Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
x3marcianofan wrote:My thoughts exactly.uptconnect wrote:I think that in a relative sense, as in the difference between Ali's speed advantage over other heavyweights and Ray's speed advantage over the other little guys, Ali was faster than his opposition to a greater degree than Ray.
Head to head, a little guy will almost always be faster than a heavyweight. Ray could probably throw 3 punches to one for any heavyweight.
It's simple physics.
I say this out of my ass though, it may well have been proven otherwise.
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So, in my opinion, Ray was/is faster than Ali, but out of the two during their careers, Ali had a greater speed advantage when in the ring.
Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
Lackeos wrote:SRL, obviously
... needless to say, he was a beats
Re: Who was faster? Sugar Ray Leonard or Ali?
Ray was a bit faster than Muhammad.But you can make a case for Howard Davis Jr. being arguably faster than Ray.