Hughie Fury - 6 Fights In 4 Months In 5 Countries

[turbostar]

Hughie fighting the chap below in Romania tomorrow. Okay, it's against a winless bum who hasn't fought in 3 years but Hughie deserves respect for his activity and willingness to travel.

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

That's fights in the US, Canada, Belfast and now Romania so far as well as two fights next month in Ireland and in Canada again.

Great stuff from an 18 year old who already looks far more skilled than most HW "prospects". Far better than his brother was at the same age.

[rm1]

i thought he was fighting in belfast again next. And presumably you mean his cousin Tyson Fury.
Yes it is good to see a busy heavyweight I just hope they aren't going to rush him as he's still developing physically -plenty of fights is ok but he needs time to mature physically so doesn't want too much heavy training.

[slapbangwhallop]

Dundalk on July 12th.

[Finn]

looks like they are treating him like a mexican fighter. He seems to be putting the fighter away fairly easily so its the only way to get rounds in the bag anyway.

[jameswilson]

Fighting guys of this standard is ok if it's early in your career and regularly. Mike Tyson was 15-0 with 15 KOs by the end of 1985 and he made his pro debut in March 1985. I guess they are going for a similar thing (maybe not 15 fights in 9 months) with Hughie given how young he is.

[MarkMcBurney]

Tyson is his cousin.

[rm1]

Fighting guys of this standard is ok if it's early in your career and regularly. Mike Tyson was 15-0 with 15 KOs by the end of 1985 and he made his pro debut in March 1985. I guess they are going for a similar thing (maybe not 15 fights in 9 months) with Hughie given how young he is.

mike Tyson is clearly the model but Tyson was a short stocky fighter of the type that matures early hughie is a tall fighter of the type that matures later hence my concern about over training.

[lillywhite14]

On the flip side rm, travellers do reach their physical peak a lot earlier than most. Both Fury lads look ten years older than they are.

[iamasadlittleboy]

Maybe it's just me but, is he actually learning anything from these knock over jobs? It's great to be kept active don't get me wrong but lets compare his early career to that of, arguably the best prospect in world boxing, Naoya Inoue. Inoue has fought 3 times in 6 months, racked up 15 rounds and learned a shed load, what has Fury learned in these bouts that he wouldn't have learned in the gym?

Maybe I'm just a cynic...

[Greggvegas]

i think its good to be racking up the fights and wins at his age. both hughie and tyson were kept busy early on and its working!!

[stevieb_8006]

any experience is good experience. just getting the feel of fighting away from home makes this worthwhile imo. Too many people bang on about over training etc etc. lets be honest, he could prob bang these kids out after two weeks on the piss so cant really see that being a concern. Plus hes at the age where he should be giving absolutely everything to the sport. Fuckin' line 'em up I say...... next!

[rm1]

i agree all experience is good experience but i repeat too much heavy training especially weights and roadwork will risk his long term prospects but ring time is useful. Hughie looked good and mean again last night.

[polecateddy]

i agree all experience is good experience but i repeat too much heavy training especially weights and roadwork will risk his long term prospects but ring time is useful. Hughie looked good and mean again last night.

What's this old wife's tale?

[lillywhite14]

i agree all experience is good experience but i repeat too much heavy training especially weights and roadwork will risk his long term prospects but ring time is useful. Hughie looked good and mean again last night.

What's this old wife's tale?

[stevieb_8006]

literally every boxer in the world bangs on and on about not being active enough so its not an issue really. He should make the most of it before hes stepped up and his career gets complicated and slows down.

[rm1]

The old wives tale is a medically proven fact that too much weight bearing training on a body not fully grown can be damaging it is known in all sports and applies to horses and greyhounds as well as humans smart people take notice of such things others ignore them at their own and others peril.

[polecateddy]

The old wives tale is a medically proven fact that too much weight bearing training on a body not fully grown can be damaging it is known in all sports and applies to horses and greyhounds as well as humans smart people take notice of such things others ignore them at their own and others peril.

Granted going crazy in the weights room isn't really necessary. I'd disagree with the road work. Boxers do so little running compared to say proper middle and long distance runners, that 3-5 miles in the morning 5 times a week, and an interval session thrown in isnt going to harm anybody's growth spurt!

[lillywhite14]

Nobody suggested he becomes a weightlifter though.

Lifting weights can enhance a fighter, there are too many examples around these days to suggest that it would ruin every fighter. Horses for courses though, what works for some won't work as well for others. David Haye does a fair amount of weight lifting, he always has. Not done him too much harm.

I'm impressed with Hughie's schedule. He can keep it up all the while he is at this level. When they stop falling over so easy and start testing him, then obviously it won't be possible for him to fight so often.

He is young, still relatively new to the sport etc so get him out as often as they can I say.

As I mentioned above, travellers do tend to mature physically earlier than most. Mainly down to the lifestyle I guess. At 13 you are considered a man and most are out working not long after and married with kids before they hit their 20s...enough to age anyone!

[polecateddy]

Nobody suggested he becomes a weightlifter though.

Lifting weights can enhance a fighter, there are too many examples around these days to suggest that it would ruin every fighter. Horses for courses though, what works for some won't work as well for others. David Haye does a fair amount of weight lifting, he always has. Not done him too much harm.

I'm impressed with Hughie's schedule. He can keep it up all the while he is at this level. When they stop falling over so easy and start testing him, then obviously it won't be possible for him to fight so often.

He is young, still relatively new to the sport etc so get him out as often as they can I say.

As I mentioned above, travellers do tend to mature physically earlier than most. Mainly down to the lifestyle I guess. At 13 you are considered a man and most are out working not long after and married with kids before they hit their 20s...enough to age anyone!

I think it's pretty easy for armchair enthusiasts to equate 'weighting training' with pumping iron Arnold-style and just getting bulked up. I think the reality is that's its more scientific these days, and incorporates a lot of boxing specific exercises and power lifting techniques and cross training that builds overall explosive power. A little can go a long way I suppose.

[lillywhite14]

Nobody suggested he becomes a weightlifter though.

Lifting weights can enhance a fighter, there are too many examples around these days to suggest that it would ruin every fighter. Horses for courses though, what works for some won't work as well for others. David Haye does a fair amount of weight lifting, he always has. Not done him too much harm.

I'm impressed with Hughie's schedule. He can keep it up all the while he is at this level. When they stop falling over so easy and start testing him, then obviously it won't be possible for him to fight so often.

He is young, still relatively new to the sport etc so get him out as often as they can I say.

As I mentioned above, travellers do tend to mature physically earlier than most. Mainly down to the lifestyle I guess. At 13 you are considered a man and most are out working not long after and married with kids before they hit their 20s...enough to age anyone!

I think it's pretty easy for armchair enthusiasts to equate 'weighting training' with pumping iron Arnold-style and just getting bulked up. I think the reality is that's its more scientific these days, and incorporates a lot of boxing specific exercises and power lifting techniques and cross training that builds overall explosive power. A little can go a long way I suppose.

Exactly

[Coco]

How did he look in his previous fight in Belfast? Was he just getting some rounds under his belt? Or was he unable to hurt the Ugandan cruiser?

[rm1]

Roadwaork is very bad for developing joints that's why there are age restrictions on long distance races this is particularly a problem for late maturing tall and heavy individuals. An eighteen year old of heavy build should not be running more than a couple of miles a week and then only for 3-5 miles. excercise on a bike should replace running to build stamina in this kind of individual until they have developed fully also they should not be doing overly heavy weights. Varied light training and fighting to keep in shape and develop technique is what they should be doing with Hughie Fury not heavy weights and loads of road work. This is different from the requirements of a physically mature fighter who will benefit from roadwork most days as is well known.

[polecateddy]

Roadwaork is very bad for developing joints that's why there are age restrictions on long distance races this is particularly a problem for late maturing tall and heavy individuals. An eighteen year old of heavy build should not be running more than a couple of miles a week and then only for 3-5 miles. excercise on a bike should replace running to build stamina in this kind of individual until they have developed fully also they should not be doing overly heavy weights. Varied light training and fighting to keep in shape and develop technique is what they should be doing with Hughie Fury not heavy weights and loads of road work. This is different from the requirements of a physically mature fighter who will benefit from roadwork most days as is well known.

Where is this info coming from - a 1978 training manual? Lol And what pray are these long distance running events where 18 year old can't enter? You certainly can't be talking about any of the major city marathons! 3-5 miles at a steady pace is bog all. And with well cushioned shoes and perhaps use of trails and grass it's hardly high-impact stuff!

...and additionally avoiding high impact training is bad for you. Pure cyclists actually have poor bone density. I would imagine its not a very smart move for a boxer to avoid training that promotes bone density!

[Old bones Ian]

Nobody suggested he becomes a weightlifter though.

Lifting weights can enhance a fighter, there are too many examples around these days to suggest that it would ruin every fighter. Horses for courses though, what works for some won't work as well for others. David Haye does a fair amount of weight lifting, he always has. Not done him too much harm.

I'm impressed with Hughie's schedule. He can keep it up all the while he is at this level. When they stop falling over so easy and start testing him, then obviously it won't be possible for him to fight so often.

He is young, still relatively new to the sport etc so get him out as often as they can I say.

As I mentioned above, travellers do tend to mature physically earlier than most. Mainly down to the lifestyle I guess. At 13 you are considered a man and most are out working not long after and married with kids before they hit their 20s...enough to age anyone!

I think it's pretty easy for armchair enthusiasts to equate 'weighting training' with pumping iron Arnold-style and just getting bulked up. I think the reality is that's its more scientific these days, and incorporates a lot of boxing specific exercises and power lifting techniques and cross training that builds overall explosive power. A little can go a long way I suppose.

Exactly

So how come so many heavies nowadays look like bloaters, but they didn't in the 60's and 70's as much? Is it the bulk that they think they need nowadays, or down to diet etc. genuine question this one.

[rm1]

Roadwaork is very bad for developing joints that's why there are age restrictions on long distance races this is particularly a problem for late maturing tall and heavy individuals. An eighteen year old of heavy build should not be running more than a couple of miles a week and then only for 3-5 miles. excercise on a bike should replace running to build stamina in this kind of individual until they have developed fully also they should not be doing overly heavy weights. Varied light training and fighting to keep in shape and develop technique is what they should be doing with Hughie Fury not heavy weights and loads of road work. This is different from the requirements of a physically mature fighter who will benefit from roadwork most days as is well known.

Where is this info coming from - a 1978 training manual? Lol And what pray are these long distance running events where 18 year old can't enter? You certainly can't be talking about any of the major city marathons! 3-5 miles at a steady pace is bog all. And with well cushioned shoes and perhaps use of trails and grass it's hardly high-impact stuff!

...and additionally avoiding high impact training is bad for you. Pure cyclists actually have poor bone density. I would imagine its not a very smart move for a boxer to avoid training that promotes bone density!

My points are acknowledged by medical experts the world over although of course they don't apply to fully mature atheletes as i point out in my posts. as for the age at which you can legally compete in races over 10k it is 17 but for a tall heavy athelete they aren't advised to do serious road running until they have stopped growing the same applies to intense weight training.