If Calzaghe had gone 44-2, how would that impact his legacy?
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loaded_gloves
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Re: If Calzaghe had gone 44-2, how would that impact his legacy?
He'd already backed out of a fight with Vitali. His reputation wouldn't survive another backing out.
Also, you think rich people don't always want another 5 or 10 mil? come on.
Also, you think rich people don't always want another 5 or 10 mil? come on.
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mickey1975
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Re: If Calzaghe had gone 44-2, how would that impact his legacy?
Absolute bullshit! Nowhere near.
Re: If Calzaghe had gone 44-2, how would that impact his legacy?
I thought I'd read somewhere that Haye and Wlad both made around £21.6M each?
Re: If Calzaghe had gone 44-2, how would that impact his legacy?
Absolutely. You are a long time retired in Boxing (unless your name is Audley).MarkMcBurney wrote: You think multi-millionaire David Haye really needed the money at that point in his career?
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mickey1975
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Re: If Calzaghe had gone 44-2, how would that impact his legacy?
Maybe shared that much.youngrell wrote:I thought I'd read somewhere that Haye and Wlad both made around £21.6M each?
Re: If Calzaghe had gone 44-2, how would that impact his legacy?
It must be nice to get half of a pie that big.mickey1975 wrote:Maybe shared that much.youngrell wrote:I thought I'd read somewhere that Haye and Wlad both made around £21.6M each?
Re: If Calzaghe had gone 44-2, how would that impact his legacy?
Possibly. I think it was on a Forbes list or something similar for sports men, and Haye's earnings were around that mark and he only fought once during that year.mickey1975 wrote:Maybe shared that much.youngrell wrote:I thought I'd read somewhere that Haye and Wlad both made around £21.6M each?
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fightscorecollector
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Re: If Calzaghe had gone 44-2, how would that impact his legacy?
Joe sat on a title for years, his best wins are Kessler and Hopkins. Simply did not fight anywhere enough top levels guys especially when being a champ for 10 years.
Ive heard people say he would have gave Jones Jnr a good fight, i cant see it. Jones would win just about every round. Jones was a great fighter. Calzaghe wasnt because of his opposition
Ive heard people say he would have gave Jones Jnr a good fight, i cant see it. Jones would win just about every round. Jones was a great fighter. Calzaghe wasnt because of his opposition
Re: If Calzaghe had gone 44-2, how would that impact his legacy?
As it stands Joe seems to be an absolute lock to be inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame next year.
That zero in the loss column is very important for that though............his total body of work was such that a loss in either or both fights and he's probably not in the next hall of fame class.
Seriously, people want to heap huge credit on him for giving a 43 year old fighter his 3rd loss in 5 fights.
Since hitting the big 40 the win/lose record of that fighter is a whopping 8-4-1 with a no contest....................6 times in 14 fights he has failed to record a victory............a winning percentage barely over .500 and that is the win people want to say cements his legacy.
If that's a legacy making win then there isn't much of a legacy.
Sure Hopkins has scored some big wins over that time but it doesn't change the fact that he's winning just over half of his fights............if you're going to count the wins then you have to acknowledge the ones he didn't win too.
Go ahead and consider getting in the ring with him and not suffering a loss to be a big deal though.
No matter what happens tomorrow Kessler is the win I would be pointing out.
That zero in the loss column is very important for that though............his total body of work was such that a loss in either or both fights and he's probably not in the next hall of fame class.
Seriously, people want to heap huge credit on him for giving a 43 year old fighter his 3rd loss in 5 fights.
Since hitting the big 40 the win/lose record of that fighter is a whopping 8-4-1 with a no contest....................6 times in 14 fights he has failed to record a victory............a winning percentage barely over .500 and that is the win people want to say cements his legacy.
If that's a legacy making win then there isn't much of a legacy.
Sure Hopkins has scored some big wins over that time but it doesn't change the fact that he's winning just over half of his fights............if you're going to count the wins then you have to acknowledge the ones he didn't win too.
Go ahead and consider getting in the ring with him and not suffering a loss to be a big deal though.
No matter what happens tomorrow Kessler is the win I would be pointing out.
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Jeff Thomas
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Re: If Calzaghe had gone 44-2, how would that impact his legacy?
Watch him vs mclellon he was the full packageSNG wrote:I love Nigel Benn, he's one of my favourite fighters but prime for prime I don't see how he beats Calzaghe.Jeff Thomas wrote: A great fighter for me, but only on consistency... I think head to head he wasn't as good as a prime Benn, Eubank, Jones Jnr or Toney.
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polecateddy
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Re: If Calzaghe had gone 44-2, how would that impact his legacy?
I don't think many serious pundits would pick Nigel to beat Joe! LolJeff Thomas wrote:Watch him vs mclellon he was the full packageSNG wrote:I love Nigel Benn, he's one of my favourite fighters but prime for prime I don't see how he beats Calzaghe.Jeff Thomas wrote: A great fighter for me, but only on consistency... I think head to head he wasn't as good as a prime Benn, Eubank, Jones Jnr or Toney.
Re: If Calzaghe had gone 44-2, how would that impact his legacy?
i think he believed he would find a way to win injured or not, even being behind on points i think he thought wlad would make a mistake and be ko'd. He learnt the hard way - wlad doesnt make mistakes. If theres a rematch i think haye would be far more aggressive.MarkMcBurney wrote:You think multi-millionaire David Haye really needed the money at that point in his career?DMA1987 wrote:Is the answer not obviously money?MarkMcBurney wrote:
If Haye was genuinely coasting through the fight to lose on points, why wouldn't he just pull out with his injury in the run up to it?
Madness.
He'd make just as much money from an Audley/Chisora, if not more, than fighting a Klitschko in Germany.
Also haye had already pulled out of fights with the klits, he couldnt pull out again.