PadWork
PadWork
Should you let the boxer hit the pad or should the pad meet the punch? Or does it not matter?
So many world class trainers do things differently and yet I saw on a post recently that a trainer was criticised for meeting the punch.
So many world class trainers do things differently and yet I saw on a post recently that a trainer was criticised for meeting the punch.
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Old bones Ian
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Re: PadWork
One thing, would it benefit a boxer to be made to miss the pad now and again? As in a fight not every punch thrown would land.
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Old bones Ian wrote:One thing, would it benefit a boxer to be made to miss the pad now and again? As in a fight not every punch thrown would land.
It hurts your elbows when you miss the pads, in my experience.
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billy nelson
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The boxer it's the pads coz that the distance he's to get used to,if the pad man brings pads to the punch the boxer will hurt his hands eventually
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Old bones Ian
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I agree there, was just wondering on others views. Pads are good for fitness and getting a combination correct. I know there was a thread on here a while ago asking when Pads came into use, as not many of the boxers from the 50's or 60's used them.billy bessey wrote:X2 you can do yourself damage when you miss them. Although Pads are a good bit of kit I tend not to use to overuse pads because I feel it makes lads(especially novices) think they're better then they really are. I meet the punches but only a little bitTomasino wrote:Old bones Ian wrote:One thing, would it benefit a boxer to be made to miss the pad now and again? As in a fight not every punch thrown would land.
It hurts your elbows when you miss the pads, in my experience.
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Re: PadWork
missing the pads can do damage to your elbows, Is shadow boxing bad for your elbows too?
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iamasadlittleboy
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Re: PadWork
I assume you follow through more with pads...Final round wrote:missing the pads can do damage to your elbows, Is shadow boxing bad for your elbows too?
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Final round wrote:missing the pads can do damage to your elbows, Is shadow boxing bad for your elbows too?
Only if your throwing power shots at fresh air.
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News to me I thought you could throw all shots at fresh air. Oops.Tomasino wrote:Final round wrote:missing the pads can do damage to your elbows, Is shadow boxing bad for your elbows too?
Only if your throwing power shots at fresh air.
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Final round wrote:News to me I thought you could throw all shots at fresh air. Oops.Tomasino wrote:Final round wrote:missing the pads can do damage to your elbows, Is shadow boxing bad for your elbows too?
Only if your throwing power shots at fresh air.
I should have put what I originally thought then...
Only if your stupid enough to throw full power shots at fresh air. Very bad for elbows and shoulders. I've never seen it done much right enough.
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News to me I thought you could throw all shots at fresh air. Oops.[/quote]Tomasino wrote:
Only if your throwing power shots at fresh air.
I should have put what I originally thought then...
Only if your stupid enough to throw full power shots at fresh air. Very bad for elbows and shoulders. I've never seen it done much right enough.[/quote]
Jim Watt punches it is then.
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Final round wrote:News to me I thought you could throw all shots at fresh air. Oops.Tomasino wrote:
Only if your throwing power shots at fresh air.
I should have put what I originally thought then...
Only if your stupid enough to throw full power shots at fresh air. Very bad for elbows and shoulders. I've never seen it done much right enough.[/quote]
Jim Watt punches it is then.[/quote]
Re: PadWork
I trained for 5 years under someone who wouldn't meet the punch and for 6 years under someone who would slightly move the pads forward (not 2 inch Mayweather pad work).
I found it was much easier on my elbows if the pads moved forward as I punched, as it reduced the frequency of overextensions without negatively altering my technique or sense of distance.
I found it was much easier on my elbows if the pads moved forward as I punched, as it reduced the frequency of overextensions without negatively altering my technique or sense of distance.
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Moving in slightly to meet the pads benefits both the guy holding and the guy hitting.
As the earlier poster said, it prevents the guy punching from over extending.
It also prevents the guy holding them from being injured as he controls the impact to his joints a bit more if he meets the shots.
As someone who is mainly trains instead of competes in boxing i have spent lots of hours over the years hitting pads and holding them. There is a certain amount of movement required to meet the pad. Too little or no movement toward the punches slows it down and hurts your joints. Too much force towards the punch hurts the guys hands and wrists as its doubling the speed of impact.
Definitely agree that hitting the pads can make people look and feel like world beaters. I look like a decent boxer on the pads but admittedly dont live up to it in sparring etc....
Still love whacking the pads tho!
As the earlier poster said, it prevents the guy punching from over extending.
It also prevents the guy holding them from being injured as he controls the impact to his joints a bit more if he meets the shots.
As someone who is mainly trains instead of competes in boxing i have spent lots of hours over the years hitting pads and holding them. There is a certain amount of movement required to meet the pad. Too little or no movement toward the punches slows it down and hurts your joints. Too much force towards the punch hurts the guys hands and wrists as its doubling the speed of impact.
Definitely agree that hitting the pads can make people look and feel like world beaters. I look like a decent boxer on the pads but admittedly dont live up to it in sparring etc....
Still love whacking the pads tho!
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i think its better the trainer catch the shot on the pad as you wouldnt get the right connection if the trainer just let you hit the pad and not catch it,just my opinion
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Spot on - I agree with every word !!Emmseegee wrote:Moving in slightly to meet the pads benefits both the guy holding and the guy hitting.
As the earlier poster said, it prevents the guy punching from over extending.
It also prevents the guy holding them from being injured as he controls the impact to his joints a bit more if he meets the shots.
As someone who is mainly trains instead of competes in boxing i have spent lots of hours over the years hitting pads and holding them. There is a certain amount of movement required to meet the pad. Too little or no movement toward the punches slows it down and hurts your joints. Too much force towards the punch hurts the guys hands and wrists as its doubling the speed of impact.
Definitely agree that hitting the pads can make people look and feel like world beaters. I look like a decent boxer on the pads but admittedly dont live up to it in sparring etc....
Still love whacking the pads tho!
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Re: PadWork
The simple answer to that is an opponents head doesn't always come forward to meet your punch does it? Hence you. Will be out of distance and get your head counteres off youcrusader wrote:I trained for 5 years under someone who wouldn't meet the punch and for 6 years under someone who would slightly move the pads forward (not 2 inch Mayweather pad work).
I found it was much easier on my elbows if the pads moved forward as I punched, as it reduced the frequency of overextensions without negatively altering my technique or sense of distance.
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If somebody is decent at taking the pads then they will retreat from combinations (whilst pushing into the shots slightly) to make the guy whos punching have to step into them aswell instead of allowing them to stand flat footed throwing combinations like Marquez. If someone is taking the pads well then they should be getting a decent work out as-well as they should be thinking and moving all the time.
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An opponent's head isn't usually idle either; generally it's moving one way or another. That doesn't mean that a trainer should move the pads away as his fighter is trying to hit them.billy nelson wrote:The simple answer to that is an opponents head doesn't always come forward to meet your punch does it? Hence you. Will be out of distance and get your head counteres off youcrusader wrote:I trained for 5 years under someone who wouldn't meet the punch and for 6 years under someone who would slightly move the pads forward (not 2 inch Mayweather pad work).
I found it was much easier on my elbows if the pads moved forward as I punched, as it reduced the frequency of overextensions without negatively altering my technique or sense of distance.![]()
My trainer would only move the pad forward very slightly, and based many rounds sparring and competing I don't think it negatively affected my sense of distance. It did, however, allow me to train with fewer elbow issues, so overall I think it was an effective method for me.
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So, you have inferered what not to do - how would you take somebody on the pads ?billy nelson wrote:The simple answer to that is an opponents head doesn't always come forward to meet your punch does it? Hence you. Will be out of distance and get your head counteres off youcrusader wrote:I trained for 5 years under someone who wouldn't meet the punch and for 6 years under someone who would slightly move the pads forward (not 2 inch Mayweather pad work).
I found it was much easier on my elbows if the pads moved forward as I punched, as it reduced the frequency of overextensions without negatively altering my technique or sense of distance.![]()
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Google "say suhin" that's how you do padworkbripez wrote:So, you have inferered what not to do - how would you take somebody on the pads ?billy nelson wrote:The simple answer to that is an opponents head doesn't always come forward to meet your punch does it? Hence you. Will be out of distance and get your head counteres off youcrusader wrote:I trained for 5 years under someone who wouldn't meet the punch and for 6 years under someone who would slightly move the pads forward (not 2 inch Mayweather pad work).
I found it was much easier on my elbows if the pads moved forward as I punched, as it reduced the frequency of overextensions without negatively altering my technique or sense of distance.![]()
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHo6vHQIB14billy nelson wrote:The boxer it's the pads coz that the distance he's to get used to,if the pad man brings pads to the punch the boxer will hurt his hands eventually
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Billy at Work with Ricky
Billy you take your right hand forward sometimes and do you ever use the body bag
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billy nelson
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I sometimes use the body bag mainly just for a high work rate,again the body belt give a slight wrong impression of distance imoSMASHING wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHo6vHQIB14billy nelson wrote:The boxer it's the pads coz that the distance he's to get used to,if the pad man brings pads to the punch the boxer will hurt his hands eventually
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Billy at Work with Ricky
Billy you take your right hand forward sometimes and do you ever use the body bag
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SMASHING wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHo6vHQIB14billy nelson wrote:The boxer it's the pads coz that the distance he's to get used to,if the pad man brings pads to the punch the boxer will hurt his hands eventually
Say Suhin
Billy at Work with Ricky
Billy you take your right hand forward sometimes and do you ever use the body bag
Billy uses a body bag in this vid, its underneath his t-shirt aint it Billy?