British & Irish Top 30 P4P June 2013
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The moderator who keeps changing the name of this thread is a sad prick and a troll.
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khan has only beat molina and diaz in this timeHorse wrote:Cleverly is a joke, Bellew deserves to be ranked above him.keithmoonhangover wrote:Bellew above Cleverly is a complete joke and needs to be changed ASAP. It's embarrassing Horse.
Cleverly fights bums, so he will drop down the rankings. His opposition in the last 18 months is amongst the weakest of everyone in the P4P top 30.
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I almost stopped reading when I saw Murray at no. 4 and then stopped completely after seeing Bellew ranked above Cleverly.Horse wrote: 8. (17.) Tony Bellew
9. (7.) Nathan Cleverly
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Cleverly hasnt fought anyone half decent since Bellew. I think Bellew would beat Clev in a rematch and I dont think Bellew is quite world class.
Also I had Murray as beating Sergio Martinez, one of greatest fighters out there, so I think he deserves to be up there.
Also I had Murray as beating Sergio Martinez, one of greatest fighters out there, so I think he deserves to be up there.
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x 2Horse wrote:I think his record is a bit underrated. I think he deserves a pretty high ranking.SOUTHPAW wrote:george groves far too high.......
George Groves is busy and has faced some good guys ( admittedly the warm ups were not that good).
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Diaz is better than Cleverly's recent opponents and Khan has a much deeper record than Cleverly to fall back on regardless of recent results.los2 wrote:khan has only beat molina and diaz in this time
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Murray coming very close to beating Martinez is worth a good ranking.johnswan1 wrote:I almost stopped reading when I saw Murray at no. 4 and then stopped completely after seeing Bellew ranked above Cleverly.Horse wrote: 8. (17.) Tony Bellew
9. (7.) Nathan Cleverly
Bellew has been beating better opposition than Cleverly since their match and I'd give him a very good chance of winning a rematch if it happened.
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Wa1nuts wrote:Cleverly hasnt fought anyone half decent since Bellew. I think Bellew would beat Clev in a rematch and I dont think Bellew is quite world class.
Also I had Murray as beating Sergio Martinez, one of greatest fighters out there, so I think he deserves to be up there.
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Pug1 wrote:x 2
George Groves is busy and has faced some good guys ( admittedly the warm ups were not that good).
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Horse I think you have to stop justifying to the masses re Bellew/Cleverly ranking. Just admit you made a mistake and move on.
I fully expect this error to be rectified in July's rankings.
I fully expect this error to be rectified in July's rankings.
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I don't hate Bellew ranking above Clev - I do hate that they are both in the top 10.
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I know. It makes Horse look like an idiot.johnswan1 wrote:I almost stopped reading when I saw Murray at no. 4 and then stopped completely after seeing Bellew ranked above Cleverly.Horse wrote: 8. (17.) Tony Bellew
9. (7.) Nathan Cleverly
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Cleverly is a bottom feeding bum. He deserves no credit whatsoever based on his recent jaw-droppingly bad opposition. His promoter thought he had to avoid top 30 level competition for over a year and a half, that isn't a good sign is it?ThereByTheGrace wrote:Horse I think you have to stop justifying to the masses re Bellew/Cleverly ranking. Just admit you made a mistake and move on.
I fully expect this error to be rectified in July's rankings.
I thought despising the cowardly faux-champion Cleverly would be commonplace by now.
The guy is a disgrace to Britain, a real chicken-heart. Hey, Cleverly, fight someone worth a darn!
Am I the only one who realises he has been fighting incredibly crap opposition? I used to be a fan of his, but I am shocked by his woeful opposition since Bellew.
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Aren't ratings supposed to be subjective.Horse wrote:Cleverly is a bottom feeding bum.
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That may well change over the next couple of months.DMA1987 wrote:I don't hate Bellew ranking above Clev - I do hate that they are both in the top 10.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:I know. It makes Horse look like an idiot.
Cleverly is fighting worthless opposition. That is why he is moving down the rankings.keithmoonhangover wrote:Aren't ratings supposed to be subjective.Horse wrote:Cleverly is a bottom feeding bum.
Why should I let him have a high ranking if he doesn't deserve it?
Why would a world champion fight such dross, unless he or his team didn't think he would have trouble with decent opposition?
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Hate is a bit strong but I am with Andrews, on this. For the record, Cleverly list of opposition is beyond woeful. I would have him ranked below Bellew but as Andrews says, both outside the Top 10.DMA1987 wrote:I don't hate Bellew ranking above Clev - I do hate that they are both in the top 10.
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Who would you rank above them?bengulnaci1 wrote:Hate is a bit strong but I am with Andrews, on this. For the record, Cleverly list of opposition is beyond woeful. I would have him ranked below Bellew but as Andrews says, both outside the Top 10.DMA1987 wrote:I don't hate Bellew ranking above Clev - I do hate that they are both in the top 10.
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Some Geordie is gonna punch him if he looks like that.
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keithmoonhangover wrote:Some Geordie is gonna punch him if he looks like that.
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Who, you or me?Horse wrote:Exposed!
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I was referring to myself.Crepitus wrote:Who, you or me?
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How come you chose KING Horse over 'there'?Horse wrote:I was referring to myself.