Cleverly vs Kovalev
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says it's official, according to Kathy duva, promoter of kovalev.
http://www.BS.com/cleverly-kov ... ned--66863
cleverly vs kovalev. HBO with multi-fight deal for the Russian.
http://www.BS.com/cleverly-kov ... ned--66863
cleverly vs kovalev. HBO with multi-fight deal for the Russian.
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Great news! Hopefully Nathan can do the job and win some fans over
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It is on, Horse I hope you are coming to Cardiff. I would love to meet you. PM me if you are and we can meet up.
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So we can have a dust-up?taffytoon wrote:It is on, Horse I hope you are coming to Cardiff. I would love to meet you. PM me if you are and we can meet up.
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I think FW deserves some credit for this as people are always quick to criticise him on here.
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Suspend your disbeliefRiddick Blowe wrote:Don't believe Kovaleverly will happen for a second. Why would Warren suddenly throw Nate to the wolves like that after what we've seen so far?
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So someone has finally called their bluff. Really hope it goes ahead now. We need to see if cleverly has the minerals for the top
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I can't believe you're so quick to jump in with this comment - FW has made matches like this numerous times only for the fighters to never end up in the ring together.columbo wrote:I think FW deserves some credit for this as people are always quick to criticise him on here.
Happy to be proved wrong, but I still don't think the fight will happen.
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Yeah but to be fair Deserter, he's also made a lot of these kind of fights that do happen! For instance... Calzaghe vs Lacy, Calzaghe vs Kessler, Calzaghe vs Hopkins, Degale vs Groves and so on.Deserter wrote:I can't believe you're so quick to jump in with this comment - FW has made matches like this numerous times only for the fighters to never end up in the ring together.columbo wrote:I think FW deserves some credit for this as people are always quick to criticise him on here.
Happy to be proved wrong, but I still don't think the fight will happen.
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It sounds like Cleverly v Hopkins was practically done according to Kathy Duva
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Firstly, they're far outnumbered by the matches that didn't happen. Secondly, the common denominator in most of those is the risk/reward ratio added up. With this one, it's far more debatable and Kovalev by stoppage will surely be the most likely outcome.columbo wrote:Yeah but to be fair Deserter, he's also made a lot of these kind of fights that do happen! For instance... Calzaghe vs Lacy, Calzaghe vs Kessler, Calzaghe vs Hopkins, Degale vs Groves and so on.Deserter wrote:I can't believe you're so quick to jump in with this comment - FW has made matches like this numerous times only for the fighters to never end up in the ring together.columbo wrote:I think FW deserves some credit for this as people are always quick to criticise him on here.
Happy to be proved wrong, but I still don't think the fight will happen.
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Come off it, Horse, the first time you'd get hit you'd complain about him being rude to youHorse wrote:So we can have a dust-up?taffytoon wrote:It is on, Horse I hope you are coming to Cardiff. I would love to meet you. PM me if you are and we can meet up.
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That would depend on whether it was a cheap shot or not.dookus wrote:Come off it, Horse, the first time you'd get hit you'd complain about him being rude to you
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I was thinking more of a chat and to introduce you to team Clev but whatever floats your boat mateHorse wrote:So we can have a dust-up?taffytoon wrote:It is on, Horse I hope you are coming to Cardiff. I would love to meet you. PM me if you are and we can meet up.
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That sounds nice, but I'm probably not going.taffytoon wrote:I was thinking more of a chat and to introduce you to team Clev but whatever floats your boat mate
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Firstly, they're far outnumbered by the matches that didn't happen. Secondly, the common denominator in most of those is the risk/reward ratio added up. With this one, it's far more debatable and Kovalev by stoppage will surely be the most likely outcome.[/quote]columbo wrote:Yeah but to be fair Deserter, he's also made a lot of these kind of fights that do happen! For instance... Calzaghe vs Lacy, Calzaghe vs Kessler, Calzaghe vs Hopkins, Degale vs Groves and so on.Deserter wrote:I can't believe you're so quick to jump in with this comment - FW has made matches like this numerous times only for the fighters to never end up in the ring together.columbo wrote:I think FW deserves some credit for this as people are always quick to criticise him on here.
Happy to be proved wrong, but I still don't think the fight will happen.
In the press conference FW kept saying how he viewed this as Nathans 'Jeff Lacy' I get the feeling they genuinely want this fight. It could be that they're underestimating Kovalev which is what it sounds like to me!
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If Cleverly wins this fight my respect for him will go up a metric shitload - Kovalev was an excellent amateur and is a really dangerous pro so far.
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i prefer kovalev's style, but i'm hoping cleverly can pull it off.
on the plus side, kovalev looks and moves like a guy who had a big amateur career and went in the pros late. in his technique he looks mature, but he does look a tad soft, heavy in the legs - like a guy who's had some wear before he went pro.
cleverly often looks raw or even untutored, however he has that extreme, lean, hard and hungry look. this could be the fight to establish cleverly. I hope he uses some of his speed, boxes responsibly and with some offensive imagination. I imagine he'll have to shrug off some heavy artillery, so hopefully that chin, and that engine, holds up.
kovalev's not done more than 8 rounds, that a split verdict over darnell boone. if cleverly can weather some certain early onslaughts, what's the challenger going to be like, away from home, vs this fit, sinewy young man?
on the plus side, kovalev looks and moves like a guy who had a big amateur career and went in the pros late. in his technique he looks mature, but he does look a tad soft, heavy in the legs - like a guy who's had some wear before he went pro.
cleverly often looks raw or even untutored, however he has that extreme, lean, hard and hungry look. this could be the fight to establish cleverly. I hope he uses some of his speed, boxes responsibly and with some offensive imagination. I imagine he'll have to shrug off some heavy artillery, so hopefully that chin, and that engine, holds up.
kovalev's not done more than 8 rounds, that a split verdict over darnell boone. if cleverly can weather some certain early onslaughts, what's the challenger going to be like, away from home, vs this fit, sinewy young man?
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Re: Cleverly vs Kovalev
It's on August 17th
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Judgement day looms for Clev then.
If he wins he deserves credit, as Kovalev is a fundamentally sound, big hitting opponent who so far has shown he belongs at the top end of 175lb so far.
The keys to victory are: Stay out of his way until at least round five and then drill him with everything.
Nearly all of his stoppages come in the first three rounds, but he could be another Victor Oganov, where his KO's are outrageous early doors, then he falls apart by the mid point. But so far he looks technically sound and a decent size at the weight limit - He looks legit to me.
Definitely looking forward to it.
If he wins he deserves credit, as Kovalev is a fundamentally sound, big hitting opponent who so far has shown he belongs at the top end of 175lb so far.
The keys to victory are: Stay out of his way until at least round five and then drill him with everything.
Nearly all of his stoppages come in the first three rounds, but he could be another Victor Oganov, where his KO's are outrageous early doors, then he falls apart by the mid point. But so far he looks technically sound and a decent size at the weight limit - He looks legit to me.
Definitely looking forward to it.
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X2G0mez wrote:Judgement day looms for Clev then.
If he wins he deserves credit, as Kovalev is a fundamentally sound, big hitting opponent who so far has shown he belongs at the top end of 175lb so far.
The keys to victory are: Stay out of his way until at least round five and then drill him with everything.
Nearly all of his stoppages come in the first three rounds, but he could be another Victor Oganov, where his KO's are outrageous early doors, then he falls apart by the mid point. But so far he looks technically sound and a decent size at the weight limit - He looks legit to me.
Definitely looking forward to it.
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Nowt wrong with this fight at all. If it happens.
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While I favor Kovalev, he tends to throw many punches early, usually stops his opponents quickly, and has never fought several rounds against a world-class opponent, or at least an opponent close to that level. If the fight goes several rounds, Kovalev's power and stamina may deplete significantly and he may lose confidence. Cleverly's chin is solid and his stamina is very good, so I think he has a realistic chance of surviving the early rounds and generally outworking Kovalev over the following rounds to win a decision.
Then again, Kovalev may have very good stamina and carry his power into the late rounds, he may set a lower pace than usual to adjust for going more rounds, and he may not be deterred if things aren't going all his way or as he's used to.
I'm interested in how he copes if he's forced to go several rounds at this level.
Then again, Kovalev may have very good stamina and carry his power into the late rounds, he may set a lower pace than usual to adjust for going more rounds, and he may not be deterred if things aren't going all his way or as he's used to.
I'm interested in how he copes if he's forced to go several rounds at this level.
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i'm hoping cleverly will be properly sharp, alert and throwing straight shots, using variety - like he was all that time ago vs danny McIntosh. I want to see him become that fighter again - maybe it'll take a risky opponent to bring the best boxing out of him.
kovalev's combinations really do a lot of damage so I hope cleverly will be careful early.
kovalev's combinations really do a lot of damage so I hope cleverly will be careful early.
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Looks like this is on now.
Seem Kovalevs last 2 fights on youtube and he looks legit. Will be a class fight IMO. Clev gets way too much stick on here. Yes his oppostion has been poor ( though it seems Braehmer is in no rush to fight him ...again) but he has an exciting style and comes across as a likeable guy.
Time will tell I guess but I'm pretty excited about this fight. 2013 has had some storming fights so far I think this will only add to it.
Seem Kovalevs last 2 fights on youtube and he looks legit. Will be a class fight IMO. Clev gets way too much stick on here. Yes his oppostion has been poor ( though it seems Braehmer is in no rush to fight him ...again) but he has an exciting style and comes across as a likeable guy.
Time will tell I guess but I'm pretty excited about this fight. 2013 has had some storming fights so far I think this will only add to it.