Danny rips Audley

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 28 Oct 2005, 11:14

This is the fight where Audley discovers that once you move out of journeyman class you actually need some sort of engine to be successful. His workrate is hopeless. He might be stung into action a few times early, but for 12 rounds? Nah, forget it.

Chesney_Chambers · Post by **Chesney_Chambers** » 28 Oct 2005, 12:05

Kilburn wrote:I just can't believe the confidence on here about Audley Harrison. The guy might be 6"5 and 18st but he has fornicate ALL strength and stamina. He'll be awkward for Danny for a while but that will be it. I bet he barely manages to win a round after the first 4.

This will be nothing like the Klitschko fight, I get sick of seeing this ridiculous comparison. Vitali would wallop Audley inside 2. They are poles apart physically.

Audleys not had his stamina tested yet and as for fornicate ALL strength

tell Robert Wiggins that.

Danny won't be able to get anywhere near Audley and when Audley lands the BIG left and hurts Danny he'll be finished off in style.

Audley and Vitali are poles apart in terms of boxing skills

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 28 Oct 2005, 12:55

Wales wrote:Its more my confidence in Williams being shot (might be a bit strong that) and not having the motivation or mental strength going into the big fight, only a few months back he ducked skelton. IMO it would be a 50 - 50 with a prime williams but after the hiding against vitali ...

Well its make or break for Danny, if he can't get up for this then he'll be through. But I actually think this is a good fight for Danny, when he was going to face Skelton he was the man with more to lose but against Audely I think many will see Danny as the underdog and this could work in his favour. But the thing about Danny is noone will really know till the fight starts what Danny Williams will show up.
I'm hoping that he comes in no heavier than 252 to 260.... speed could be a big factor in this fight.....

MTG · Post by **MTG** » 28 Oct 2005, 14:45

IM NOT A FAN OF AUDLEY BUT I THINK A WIN HERE WILL SILENCE SOME CRITICS(SHOCK?) AND MAYBE WAKE HIMSELF UP AND REALISE ITS TIME TO GET GOING.

DOES AUDREY REALLY HAVE THE DESIRE?OR WAS HE JUST IN IT TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK OFF OF HIS MEDAL?

M.T GILLICK

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 30 Oct 2005, 00:30

have you chaps totally given up on audley?? british people are loyal i know, but theres a point where its just silly, has he reached that point yet with you guys? he seems to be a real underacheiver IMO. what are your thoughts on him guys

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 30 Oct 2005, 01:58

I would like Williams to win but just don't see it happening. He had natural speed and athleticism but piss-poor boxing smarts and his weight is outrageous. Why he decided to bulk up to an absurb 265 after getting stopped by Sam is a big ? . . . .bulky muscles don't protect your chin. He got away with it with an old worn-out after 2 rounds Tyson but Klitschko a fighter with at least SOME movement exposed him as having cement shoes. Harrison no doubt probably can't take the best shot and can't keep up a good pace, but a 270 lb Williams isn't going to show that. Harrison is also smart, and will fight cautious with his long jab until he explodes with his faster hands and boom Williams is out by round 5.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 30 Oct 2005, 08:54

Kilburn wrote:This is the fight where Audley discovers that once you move out of journeyman class you actually need some sort of engine to be successful. His workrate is hopeless. He might be stung into action a few times early, but for 12 rounds? Nah, forget it.

audley was sometimes struggling at journeyman level. audley really does have a lot to prove in this williams fight.

williams is easily the best opponent that audley has ever faced.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 30 Oct 2005, 09:40

hitman_hatton1 wrote:williams is easily the best opponent that audley has ever faced.

True, but as ever the outcome of this fight largely depends on Williams frame of mind come fight night.

hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 30 Oct 2005, 12:08

KOJOE90 wrote:
hitman_hatton1 wrote:williams is easily the best opponent that audley has ever faced.
True, but as ever the outcome of this fight largely depends on Williams frame of mind come fight night.

if danny is tuned in i have no doubts he can pull this off.

i'm hoping his weight is on the sensible side as well.

NakMuay · Post by **NakMuay** » 30 Oct 2005, 12:31

I think this fight is pretty, but I'll be cheering for Danny. Does Danny Williams have a boxing nickname, what is it?

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 30 Oct 2005, 13:28

hitman_hatton1 wrote:
Kilburn wrote:This is the fight where Audley discovers that once you move out of journeyman class you actually need some sort of engine to be successful. His workrate is hopeless. He might be stung into action a few times early, but for 12 rounds? Nah, forget it.
audley was sometimes struggling at journeyman level. audley really does have a lot to prove in this williams fight.

williams is easily the best opponent that audley has ever faced.

Williams had also struggled against journeyman though . . .

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 30 Oct 2005, 13:38

dempseyfire wrote:
hitman_hatton1 wrote:
Kilburn wrote:This is the fight where Audley discovers that once you move out of journeyman class you actually need some sort of engine to be successful. His workrate is hopeless. He might be stung into action a few times early, but for 12 rounds? Nah, forget it.
audley was sometimes struggling at journeyman level. audley really does have a lot to prove in this williams fight.

williams is easily the best opponent that audley has ever faced.
Williams had also struggled against journeyman though . . .

Like who?...

dempseyfire · Post by **dempseyfire** » 30 Oct 2005, 21:02

silkov wrote:
dempseyfire wrote:
hitman_hatton1 wrote: audley was sometimes struggling at journeyman level. audley really does have a lot to prove in this williams fight.

williams is easily the best opponent that audley has ever faced.
Williams had also struggled against journeyman though . . .
Like who?...

Julius Francis . . . .

Slapsie Maxie · Post by **Slapsie Maxie** » 31 Oct 2005, 04:55

while I am entirely ambivalent about the result in terms of which fighter to support , I think a win for AH would be a much better result for boxing in general.

DW has little or nothing left to offer the sport apart from a gradual decline to named opponent. While AH, despite being definingly indolent, does have his best fights ahead of him not behind him.

Slapsie

Boxingmad · Post by **Boxingmad** » 31 Oct 2005, 05:25

NakMuay wrote:I think this fight is pretty, but I'll be cheering for Danny. Does Danny Williams have a boxing nickname, what is it?

The Brixton Bomber

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 31 Oct 2005, 06:47

dempseyfire wrote:
silkov wrote:
dempseyfire wrote: Williams had also struggled against journeyman though . . .
Like who?...
Julius Francis . . . .

Well Francis was pretty decent when he first fought Williams and beat him on points and Williams froze that night... but the next time they met Danny destroyed Francis in about 4 rounds... and this is compared to Audely having to go the distance with Julius only last year.

Coconut · Post by **Coconut** » 31 Oct 2005, 07:04

To be fair silkov these were two different versions of Francis - one which left gaps, the other which curled up.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 31 Oct 2005, 07:43

Coconut wrote:To be fair silkov these were two different versions of Francis - one which left gaps, the other which curled up.

Yeah, but come on, a world class fighter should be able to take Francis out. Audely actually looked like he was struggling at times against Francis, especially in the later rounds.

Boxingmad · Post by **Boxingmad** » 31 Oct 2005, 08:29

That first win against Williams for Francis was the best of a very good year for him - 1999. First he saw off Pele Reid, after everyone said that Reid was the next big thing, Reid got done in 3 rounds! Then he beats Danny, and Danny looked absolutely awful that night. Then he beats Scott Welch on the Hide V Klitschko bill. If that Francis had turned up against Audley, I'd've put my money on Julius.

DIRT SUGAR · Post by **DIRT SUGAR** » 31 Oct 2005, 10:43

It's a case of whether Danny goes out there and wins it or does what he did against Sprott (and to some extent Klitschko, ie too heavy, totally wrong tactics) and go out and lose it.

Audley does seem to have got himself into good shape at the very least and I expect him to step up a level or two. He'll handle the pressure okay, because you don't win a gold medal at the Olympics by being suspect under the pressure of a big occasion.

I've a feeling it's two men meeting going in different directions and depending where each of them are is a big factor on the outcome of the fight.

If Danny can come in focused like he did against Tyson, you have to go with him based on his experience, power and ability.

If he doesn't, then look for Audley to tie him up, pepper him with jabs and come through the odd crisis to stop a fading, swollen up Williams in 10 rounds or by a two/three point margin on the scorecards.