QaA evening with Ricky Burns

[lefty]

I have another:

When you have come on here, taken stick from most and then gone on to prove them wrong time and again but still get no credit, why waste your time? I mean, I think you are an asset with an inside view that brings so much value to the forum so I'm glad you do still post - it just seems thankless. Good luck to you and Ricky for the event.

I was one who got a bit stuck into Billy at one point, but when you are wrong, you just have to accept you are wrong.

Spoken like a true man, more than can be said for so many others
To be honest pal I'm a bit of a sad bastard and enjoy coming on here mostly for the banter but I also like reading people's views on things

Completely off topic... Billy did you know that Gonzalez had only 5 amateur fights apparantly?! Can you believe that?

[lefty]

I have another:

Are you taking the p!ss trying to charge fans for a Q and A when you continue to avoid the best fighters in the division?

So we can be sure that Vasquez, Abril, Gamboa etc would fight Burns?

Interestingly, Beltran is rated in the top ten by Boxing Monthly, Boxrec and The Ring, yet a lot on here seem to think he's poor opposition.

I wouldnt say he's poor opposition it's just that we *boxing fans* want to see him in with the best guys ie your Vasquez's, Abrils, Gamboa, etc.

[billy nelson]

I have another:

Are you taking the p!ss trying to charge fans for a Q and A when you continue to avoid the best fighters in the division?

So we can be sure that Vasquez, Abril, Gamboa etc would fight Burns?

Interestingly, Beltran is rated in the top ten by Boxing Monthly, Boxrec and The Ring, yet a lot on here seem to think he's poor opposition.

I wouldnt say he's poor opposition it's just that we *boxing fans* want to see him in with the best guys ie your Vasquez's, Abrils, Gamboa, etc.

at lightweight for instance compared to Vasquez Ricky's opponents have been much better I'd say,Ricky deserves much more credit than what he gets

[billy nelson]

I have another:

When you have come on here, taken stick from most and then gone on to prove them wrong time and again but still get no credit, why waste your time? I mean, I think you are an asset with an inside view that brings so much value to the forum so I'm glad you do still post - it just seems thankless. Good luck to you and Ricky for the event.

I was one who got a bit stuck into Billy at one point, but when you are wrong, you just have to accept you are wrong.

Spoken like a true man, more than can be said for so many others
To be honest pal I'm a bit of a sad bastard and enjoy coming on here mostly for the banter but I also like reading people's views on things

Completely off topic... Billy did you know that Gonzalez had only 5 amateur fights apparantly?! Can you believe that?

I was told he never had any yet he displayed excellent skill on the night, although I beleive if they fought again we'd get the same result

[mickey1975]

I like billy, I think he is one of the top English trainers.... It was just his slaughtering of the recent dinner show up there that prompted me to comment.

Compare the 5 Star Glasgow Hilton and The Cleland Miners Club? Pie and beans or a Three coarse meal in excellent Surroundings?
Tickets have went excellently and Im personally really looking forward to it.
I beleive Ken Buchanan and Ricky Hatton will be there as well plus others

You're right its not comparable, and sounds a good show. Scotland's greatest ever boxer will be there (decide yourself who it is)! I just thought you were a bit harsh on the lads promoting the other, they are trying.

[lefty]

I have another:

When you have come on here, taken stick from most and then gone on to prove them wrong time and again but still get no credit, why waste your time? I mean, I think you are an asset with an inside view that brings so much value to the forum so I'm glad you do still post - it just seems thankless. Good luck to you and Ricky for the event.

I was one who got a bit stuck into Billy at one point, but when you are wrong, you just have to accept you are wrong.

Spoken like a true man, more than can be said for so many others
To be honest pal I'm a bit of a sad bastard and enjoy coming on here mostly for the banter but I also like reading people's views on things

Completely off topic... Billy did you know that Gonzalez had only 5 amateur fights apparantly?! Can you believe that?

I was told he never had any yet he displayed excellent skill on the night, although I beleive if they fought again we'd get the same result[/quote]

Yeah he must be a natural. For someone with such limited experience his counter punching was top notch!

[magnus]

I have another:

Are you taking the p!ss trying to charge fans for a Q and A when you continue to avoid the best fighters in the division?

So we can be sure that Vasquez, Abril, Gamboa etc would fight Burns?

Interestingly, Beltran is rated in the top ten by Boxing Monthly, Boxrec and The Ring, yet a lot on here seem to think he's poor opposition.

I wouldnt say he's poor opposition it's just that we *boxing fans* want to see him in with the best guys ie your Vasquez's, Abrils, Gamboa, etc.

I do too mate, but it's not going to be quite as simple as saying "Ricky doesn't fancy it". It's takes two (plus their managers, trainers, promoters, ABC organisation, tv backing etc) to make a fight.

[lefty]

I have another:

Are you taking the p!ss trying to charge fans for a Q and A when you continue to avoid the best fighters in the division?

So we can be sure that Vasquez, Abril, Gamboa etc would fight Burns?

Interestingly, Beltran is rated in the top ten by Boxing Monthly, Boxrec and The Ring, yet a lot on here seem to think he's poor opposition.

I wouldnt say he's poor opposition it's just that we *boxing fans* want to see him in with the best guys ie your Vasquez's, Abrils, Gamboa, etc.

at lightweight for instance compared to Vasquez Ricky's opponents have been much better I'd say,Ricky deserves much more credit than what he gets[/quote]

I would agree that Ricky has fought the better opposition upto now. I just wish we could see them in the ring together

[lefty]

I have another:

Are you taking the p!ss trying to charge fans for a Q and A when you continue to avoid the best fighters in the division?

So we can be sure that Vasquez, Abril, Gamboa etc would fight Burns?

Interestingly, Beltran is rated in the top ten by Boxing Monthly, Boxrec and The Ring, yet a lot on here seem to think he's poor opposition.

I wouldnt say he's poor opposition it's just that we *boxing fans* want to see him in with the best guys ie your Vasquez's, Abrils, Gamboa, etc.

I do too mate, but it's not going to be quite as simple as saying "Ricky doesn't fancy it". It's takes two (plus their managers, trainers, promoters, ABC organisation, tv backing etc) to make a fight.[/quote]

Those are all valid points

[handsofstone]

Its a shame for Gonzalez really,i thought he boxed outstanding on the night but you cant train for a heart and i think Burns will have ruined him forever as far as boxing at the top levels concerned,and he,ll be forever ridiculed as a quitter,the worst slur for any boxer im sure,but yeah very skillful and accurate and lightning fast

[lefty]

Its a shame for Gonzalez really,i thought he boxed outstanding on the night but you cant train for a heart and i think Burns will have ruined him forever as far as boxing at the top levels concerned,and he,ll be forever ridiculed as a quitter,the worst slur for any boxer im sure,but yeah very skillful and accurate and lightning fast

The guy has clearly got a lot of ability but yeah he seemed to fold mentally when the going got tough! He also needs to work on his conditioning going on that performance because he gassed badly! Ricky who seemed to throw a lot more punches and also got hit with some big shots seemed to have far better cardio even with those things working against him.

[ShadrachSimmo]

I cant believe anybody would give that cxxt Suzi Maguire any work,i mean c,mon,shoving a shoe heel up your husbands arse,where would the fella be if the shoe was on the other foot(pardon the pun) in jail and branded a raping disgrace and quite rightly so,i hope she gets severely heckled


On the same token,what sort of man lets a woman throw him down the stairs,batter him then let her shove a stilleto up his ring? i bet the poor sod cant go to the local for a quiet pint again


Very very funny story all the same

I knew she battered the poor bastard but had no idea she stuck the shoe up his chorus?

Ouch.

[Alba]

what is difference between the price of the tickets, what do you get ? I fancy this but cant see anything on rickys facebook or his twitter about it ...

I cant see Ricky Hatton being there as his dinner shows alone sometimes double the price of this ... but i could be wrong .

Good luck with it ...

[billy nelson]

what is difference between the price of the tickets, what do you get ? I fancy this but cant see anything on rickys facebook or his twitter about it ...

I cant see Ricky Hatton being there as his dinner shows alone sometimes double the price of this ... but i could be wrong .

Good luck with it ...

Ricky Hatton has told me he'd be coming to the night as he's loads of friends in Scotland and it should be a great night, the price diffrence is purely based on how far away you are from the main table,this is based on feedback from previous shows

[Alba]

what is difference between the price of the tickets, what do you get ? I fancy this but cant see anything on rickys facebook or his twitter about it ...

I cant see Ricky Hatton being there as his dinner shows alone sometimes double the price of this ... but i could be wrong .

Good luck with it ...

Ricky Hatton has told me he'd be coming to the night as he's loads of friends in Scotland and it should be a great night, the price diffrence is purely based on how far away you are from the main table,this is based on feedback from previous shows

cheers , do you get a photo included in the price ?

[rio]

Interestingly, Beltran is rated in the top ten by Boxing Monthly, Boxrec and The Ring, yet a lot on here seem to think he's poor opposition.[/quote]
I wouldnt say he's poor opposition it's just that we *boxing fans* want to see him in with the best guys ie your Vasquez's, Abrils, Gamboa, etc.[/quote]

I do too mate, but it's not going to be quite as simple as saying "Ricky doesn't fancy it". It's takes two (plus their managers, trainers, promoters, ABC organisation, tv backing etc) to make a fight.[/quote]

Broner and golden boy were all in....nothing to do with there side not fancying it

[billy nelson]

what is difference between the price of the tickets, what do you get ? I fancy this but cant see anything on rickys facebook or his twitter about it ...

I cant see Ricky Hatton being there as his dinner shows alone sometimes double the price of this ... but i could be wrong .

Good luck with it ...

Ricky Hatton has told me he'd be coming to the night as he's loads of friends in Scotland and it should be a great night, the price diffrence is purely based on how far away you are from the main table,this is based on feedback from previous shows

cheers , do you get a photo included in the price ?

Everyone I've been to that's usually separate, I will ask it he question all the same.
wouldn't it be great if Ken,Jim and Ricky were on the same table Scotland's 3 world light weight champions

[eddiebutcher]

Think team butcher will be going to this Ricky is a real gentleman and should be a great nite

[Final round]

I cant believe anybody would give that cxxt Suzi Maguire any work,i mean c,mon,shoving a shoe heel up your husbands arse,where would the fella be if the shoe was on the other foot(pardon the pun) in jail and branded a raping disgrace and quite rightly so,i hope she gets severely heckled


On the same token,what sort of man lets a woman throw him down the stairs,batter him then let her shove a stilleto up his ring? i bet the poor sod cant go to the local for a quiet pint again


Very very funny story all the same

Haha! (actually quite true about the different reaction a woman gets for doing something like that) anyway I hope she used lubrication on the stiletto

[expe]

Interestingly, Beltran is rated in the top ten by Boxing Monthly, Boxrec and The Ring, yet a lot on here seem to think he's poor opposition.

I wouldnt say he's poor opposition it's just that we *boxing fans* want to see him in with the best guys ie your Vasquez's, Abrils, Gamboa, etc.[/quote]

I do too mate, but it's not going to be quite as simple as saying "Ricky doesn't fancy it". It's takes two (plus their managers, trainers, promoters, ABC organisation, tv backing etc) to make a fight.[/quote]

Broner and golden boy were all in....nothing to do with there side not fancying it[/quote]
They were in, but on their own terms only.

[rio]

Interestingly, Beltran is rated in the top ten by Boxing Monthly, Boxrec and The Ring, yet a lot on here seem to think he's poor opposition.

I wouldnt say he's poor opposition it's just that we *boxing fans* want to see him in with the best guys ie your Vasquez's, Abrils, Gamboa, etc.

I do too mate, but it's not going to be quite as simple as saying "Ricky doesn't fancy it". It's takes two (plus their managers, trainers, promoters, ABC organisation, tv backing etc) to make a fight.[/quote]

Broner and golden boy were all in....nothing to do with there side not fancying it[/quote]
They were in, but on their own terms only.[/quote]

Which included a highest ever purse for burns (not tax free tho!!) and HBO main event slot against the universally regarded no1 135lb fighter who they are grooming to be the next mayweather, if he won it would have catapulted him to superstar status in the states. However I am sure beating beltran will give him the same recognition . At least Rees stepped up and give it a good go.

[magnus]

Interestingly, Beltran is rated in the top ten by Boxing Monthly, Boxrec and The Ring, yet a lot on here seem to think he's poor opposition.

I wouldnt say he's poor opposition it's just that we *boxing fans* want to see him in with the best guys ie your Vasquez's, Abrils, Gamboa, etc.[/quote]

I do too mate, but it's not going to be quite as simple as saying "Ricky doesn't fancy it". It's takes two (plus their managers, trainers, promoters, ABC organisation, tv backing etc) to make a fight.[/quote]

Broner and golden boy were all in....nothing to do with there side not fancying it[/quote]

I didn't mention Broner did I? We were talking about the current top lightweights, he's left the division. I'm not denying that Burns or his team turned down the Broner fight (for whatever reason).

[Trojans44]

I've got a question:

'Ricky why did you reject possibly the only opportunity you'll ever get to box at the highest level and then serious expect me to pay £80 to watch you get completely dominated by a Puerto rican novice?'

I recognise this is a bit a harsh. But those are my views.

By 'a Puerto Rican novice' did you mean 'an unbeaten, 22&0 switch hitter'? By 'get completely dominated' did you mean 'stop'? By 'this is a bit harsh' did you mean 'i'm an idiot' ?

Sorry have you seen the guys record? Its a joke for world title challenger. The fact he turned out to be a bit handy is neither here nor there. He is a novice. Dan Rafael agrees.

And yes he was completely dominated. Utterly dominated. He won the lottery that this was guy was in the 2% of fighters who would quit in that position.

Lastly, Burns is the living definition of a ducker. He refused multiple opportunities to fight on the biggest stage and prove he's the best. Imagine Gonzalez didn't quit - how would that decision be looking now?

[ThereByTheGrace]

I've got a question:

'Ricky why did you reject possibly the only opportunity you'll ever get to box at the highest level and then serious expect me to pay £80 to watch you get completely dominated by a Puerto rican novice?'

I recognise this is a bit a harsh. But those are my views.

By 'a Puerto Rican novice' did you mean 'an unbeaten, 22&0 switch hitter'? By 'get completely dominated' did you mean 'stop'? By 'this is a bit harsh' did you mean 'i'm an idiot' ?

Sorry have you seen the guys record? Its a joke for world title challenger. The fact he turned out to be a bit handy is neither here nor there. He is a novice. Dan Rafael agrees.

And yes he was completely dominated. Utterly dominated. He won the lottery that this was guy was in the 2% of fighters who would quit in that position.

Lastly, Burns is the living definition of a ducker. He refused multiple opportunities to fight on the biggest stage and prove he's the best. Imagine Gonzalez didn't quit - how would that decision be looking now?

You are better being lucky than good in this game and that applies to Burns.

Manager, promoter and trainer know to stay and Glasgow and protect that belt at all costs, because when it's lost- it ain't ever coming back.

[expe]

I've got a question:

'Ricky why did you reject possibly the only opportunity you'll ever get to box at the highest level and then serious expect me to pay £80 to watch you get completely dominated by a Puerto rican novice?'

I recognise this is a bit a harsh. But those are my views.

By 'a Puerto Rican novice' did you mean 'an unbeaten, 22&0 switch hitter'? By 'get completely dominated' did you mean 'stop'? By 'this is a bit harsh' did you mean 'i'm an idiot' ?

Sorry have you seen the guys record? Its a joke for world title challenger. The fact he turned out to be a bit handy is neither here nor there. He is a novice. Dan Rafael agrees.

And yes he was completely dominated. Utterly dominated. He won the lottery that this was guy was in the 2% of fighters who would quit in that position.

Lastly, Burns is the living definition of a ducker. He refused multiple opportunities to fight on the biggest stage and prove he's the best. Imagine Gonzalez didn't quit - how would that decision be looking now?

Dan Rafael talks complete shite on a constant basis, I won't give the rest of the post justification with an answer.