Tony Bellew to travel to Canada....

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http://www.BS.com/stevenson-be ... bid--67981

Sorry if this has already been posted somewhere but I can't see anything on it. Looks like they couldn't get the champ to travel which is fair enough, he will be a big draw over there now and I expect he will probably be packing the Bell Centre out with ease now.

Thoughts on Tony's tough trip?
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My prediction is that it is going to be fornicating cold and if it's not fornicating cold it'll be cold and fornicating snowing

UD for the Canuck or TKO late rounds
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I think Bellew will get knocked out. Nice little highlight compilation of Stevenson here.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDUwZ5JIr14
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columbo wrote:I think Bellew will get knocked out. Nice little highlight compilation of Stevenson here.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDUwZ5JIr14
He will be like the outside temperature in December

stone cold
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Stevenson is a cross between mike tyson and darren corbett. Bellew gets beaten I think. I like tony but we have seen his level in recent fights. I do wish him all the best in his quest.
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macaca wrote:
columbo wrote:I think Bellew will get knocked out. Nice little highlight compilation of Stevenson here.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDUwZ5JIr14
He will be like the outside temperature in December

stone cold
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This one could go the distance with Bellew losing on points.

Cue for Boomer to start whining about how he went to the "kid`s" backyard and got stiffed by the judges who must have a personal vendetta against people from Liverpoooool and that what they forget is that scousers have got pride (more pride than anyone else in the country) and their excellent humour has got them through 5 world wars and is the reason we are not speaking German today.
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Seriously think Bellew is getting sold short on here.

He’s a clever boxer. And, as I have said, he might give it all “I like a tear up” (and he does) but he’s also a man acutely aware of what he needs to do to win…to minimise the others guy’s opportunities.

The rematch with Ovil…the fight with Miranda…

Yes, this is a step up…yes, Stevenson will be favourite…but, Tony can win this fight. All big punchers coming off sensational KOs get overrated. Stevenson is no different.
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Stevenson is fighting Cloud first, could struggle to win that one, then this fight will be stuffed if that happens.
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Ezzard wrote:Seriously think Bellew is getting sold short on here.

He’s a clever boxer. And, as I have said, he might give it all “I like a tear up” (and he does) but he’s also a man acutely aware of what he needs to do to win…to minimise the others guy’s opportunities.

The rematch with Ovil…the fight with Miranda…

Yes, this is a step up…yes, Stevenson will be favourite…but, Tony can win this fight. All big punchers coming off sensational KOs get overrated. Stevenson is no different.
I couldn't agree more with you. I've seen nothing of Stevenson that suggests he's a better boxer than Bellew and people get carried away with the KO of Dawson. Most of the other boxers than Stevenson have knocked over are nothing more than journeymen. Ofcourse Stevenson's the favourite, but this is a winnable fight for Bomber.
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Ezzard wrote:Seriously think Bellew is getting sold short on here.

He’s a clever boxer. And, as I have said, he might give it all “I like a tear up” (and he does) but he’s also a man acutely aware of what he needs to do to win…to minimise the others guy’s opportunities.

The rematch with Ovil…the fight with Miranda…

Yes, this is a step up…yes, Stevenson will be favourite…but, Tony can win this fight. All big punchers coming off sensational KOs get overrated. Stevenson is no different.
I don`t think he is getting sold short at all. He put up a great effort against Cleverly, but time will tell how good Cleverley actually is. Apart from that fight I have not been that impressed by Bellew.

He had power knocking over lower ranked guys, but I wouldn`t say he has the sort of power that Stevenson has. It`s not that løong ago that both Mackenzie and Ajisafe gave him all he could handle. it is a long walk from that kind of form to winning a world title overseas.

I will be rooting for him, but I just can`t see it happening.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Cleverly is a much better boxer than Stevenson and Bellew handled him quite well, if he can get away from Stevenson's power I think Bellew wins it on points (if scored right)
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forcefraser wrote:
Ezzard wrote:Seriously think Bellew is getting sold short on here.

He’s a clever boxer. And, as I have said, he might give it all “I like a tear up” (and he does) but he’s also a man acutely aware of what he needs to do to win…to minimise the others guy’s opportunities.

The rematch with Ovil…the fight with Miranda…

Yes, this is a step up…yes, Stevenson will be favourite…but, Tony can win this fight. All big punchers coming off sensational KOs get overrated. Stevenson is no different.
I don`t think he is getting sold short at all. He put up a great effort against Cleverly, but time will tell how good Cleverley actually is. Apart from that fight I have not been that impressed by Bellew.

He had power knocking over lower ranked guys, but I wouldn`t say he has the sort of power that Stevenson has. It`s not that løong ago that both Mackenzie and Ajisafe gave him all he could handle. it is a long walk from that kind of form to winning a world title overseas.

I will be rooting for him, but I just can`t see it happening.
I agree. Tony doesn’t have Stevenson’s power. And he will have to come up with a game plan and stick to it. But…

When Tony was struggling with Bob and Ovil, Adonis was getting KO’d by a journeyman.

This is a live fight.
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I've just watched the highlight thing (thanks columbo); Bellew can win this; Adonis is wild, i imagine he's not got the same power after 3 rounds; Bellew hits with correct form and leverage so can hit hard late on, he wants to get warmed up properly in the changing room beforehand though and they're likely to mess him about, leave him in the ring etc for ages.
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TheCobra wrote:Stevenson is fighting Cloud first, could struggle to win that one, then this fight will be stuffed if that happens.
If Cloud wins then he will have to defend against Bellew within 90 days too, so whoever wins Bellew is getting a shot.
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I think Tony has a better chance against Stevenson.
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Bomber punches a lot harder than people think, as illustrated by his numerous stoppages at heavyweight during the amateurs. However, his timing has been very poor in the last couple of years. When he connects flush with good timing then he is capable of knocking most people out.

Bomber has a good chance of winning this fight via stoppage because he is technically superior than Stevenson and arguably has a better chin (and/or recovery). Bomber was never knocked down in the amateurs, not even by a heavyweight and we should not deem him to have a poor chin due to the knockdowns he has suffered as a pro. Stevenson is very raw but arguably punches harder (albeit not by a big margin).
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Ezzard wrote:I think Tony has a better chance against Stevenson.
Easier than Chad Dawson.

Adonis is a powerhouse, but is no sugar ray !
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Are many picking Stevenson on the basis of one result? Break these two fighters down and I'm pretty certain that the parts that form Bellew contain far more significant worth than those of Stevenson.

This is as live a fight as you can get and unless Stevenson finds an early bomb this is going long and that favours Bellew.
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The Law wrote:Bomber punches a lot harder than people think, as illustrated by his numerous stoppages at heavyweight during the amateurs.
Don't forget that as an amateur he was a heavyweight and weighed 14 stone 4 pounds.

Also, he mostly boxed domestic opposition in what wasn't a great division talent-wise (I think he might have had a couple of international bouts, but don't think that he had much success ?).

As a pro he weighs in at 12 stone 7 (not sure of his weight on the night) - but, he is 10 years older and weighing in nearly 2 stone less !

His record as pro does not suggest a "puncher" at this level - maybe it is due to weight and he could be more powerful at cruiser ?
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bripez wrote:
The Law wrote:Bomber punches a lot harder than people think, as illustrated by his numerous stoppages at heavyweight during the amateurs.
Don't forget that as an amateur he was a heavyweight and weighed 14 stone 4 pounds.

Also, he mostly boxed domestic opposition in what wasn't a great division talent-wise (I think he might have had a couple of international bouts, but don't think that he had much success ?).

As a pro he weighs in at 12 stone 7 (not sure of his weight on the night) - but, he is 10 years older and weighing in nearly 2 stone less !

His record as pro does not suggest a "puncher" at this level - maybe it is due to weight and he could be more powerful at cruiser ?
He did not have a long amateur career hence why he did not have an established international amateur career. I believe he had less than amateur 50 fights with a very high knockout record (with headguards at a higher weight). I think it's more about timing rather than power. I have carefully analysed his fights ringside and his timing has been very poor during the last 2/3 years, he rarely lands a clean power punch. I believe he is trying a bit too hard to go for the knockout and as a result is very tense which then leads to poor timing. If he stays relaxed and does not go for the knockout then his timing will improve. He is very heavy handed, no doubt about that.
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Chris W 1982 wrote:Are many picking Stevenson on the basis of one result? Break these two fighters down and I'm pretty certain that the parts that form Bellew contain far more significant worth than those of Stevenson.

This is as live a fight as you can get and unless Stevenson finds an early bomb this is going long and that favours Bellew.
Bellew seems to try far to hard to land that one telling power punch and often leaves himself wide open. Stevenson has raw power in that left hand and as we have seen time and time again Bellew is too easy to hit. I can see him getting stopped against Adonis Stevenson.
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Would love to see Bomber win this Stevenson, what Stevenson was convicted of was disgraceful and I don't want to see Stevenson around for long.
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Location probably won't matter because Stevenson is a wild puncher who will be coming to win by KO. He'll either get it or he'll walk onto something because he's vulnerable himself and Bellew can certainly crack himself.

Tony struggles at times when he's had to go looking for the opponent and he's 'forced' his punches in pursuit of landing a bomb. But that won't be the case this time. He'll have an opponent who'll be coming at him. Bellew's live in this one imo.
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Bellew can hit but has seemed to go into bouts imagining that the first time he connects the fight is over, he can box really fluidly and if he keeps his head he will chin Adonis but he gets himself so wound up; why does he do that to himself? I reckon the press conference will be worth watching and if Tony wins I hope he does the Adonis/Corbett dance around the ring for posterity.
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