Deagostini's dvds.... what do you think of Tyson dvd???

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 28 Oct 2005, 15:49

I just got the second dvd in Deagostini's collection and have to say I'm very disapointed. The mentioned 'extras' are very brief pre and post fight interveiws.... and the fights go straght into the action with hardly any buildup... I've basically ended up with only about 10 mins of footage that I didn't already have. Theres not much here really at all... views anyone?... :x

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steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 28 Oct 2005, 15:57

I don't know, i joined online and still haven't received Issue One yet

They sent me a letter saying they were taking the money out though, talk about getting their priorities right

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 28 Oct 2005, 16:10

steve689 wrote:I don't know, i joined online and still haven't received Issue One yet They sent me a letter saying they were taking the money out though, talk about getting their priorities right

I don't like the sound of that mate!. I buy things from Amazon and they never take the money before you recieve the goods. Slightly different situation perhaps but I never like to pay for something before I get it.
Its over two weeks since the first issue came out, why haven't you got it yet?. Make sure you get the supposed freebies too!... :x :x :x
I was thinking about placing an order online before getting the recent issue but I won't be now.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 29 Oct 2005, 12:29

I have the complete set on VHS so financially can't really justify getting them all again on DVD.

However once I've paid for my new bathroom suite witch is costing me £££££££'s I intend to get a DVD recorder (with hard drive) I then may make backup copies on DVD, as I guess video recorders/players are not going to be around forever.

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 29 Oct 2005, 12:43

It's just a rehash of the old Marshall Cavendish Video series from 1996.

I also find the choice of fights peculiar form some fighters. With Tyson, I would have thought that they would have included some of his later fights in 1996, before Evander thrashed him, just as a reference to see how he'd changed.

The upcoming Frazier one is also bizarre, as it features the Thrilla in Manila!

He LOST that fight! They should have featured fights on of him in his peak in 1968 -1971!

Larry Holmes too, features his defeat to Tyson! How strange!

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 29 Oct 2005, 12:46

Syntax Error wrote:It's just a rehash of the old Marshall Cavendish Video series from 1996.

I also find the choice of fights peculiar form some fighters. With Tyson, I would have thought that they would have included some of his later fights in 1996, before Evander thrashed him, just as a reference to see how he'd changed.

The upcoming Frazier one is also bizarre, as it features the Thrilla in Manila! He LOST that fight! They should have featured fights on of him in his peak in 1968 -1971!

Larry Holmes too, features his defeat to Tyson! How strange!

I agree, but all these fights are own by Big Fights Inc, If I recall right, so I suppose it's all down to who owns the rights to certain fight films.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 29 Oct 2005, 13:01

What annoys me is that they go on about the 'extras' yet the pre and post fight stuff is extremely breif and there is no weigh in footage like I expected perhaps. Also this dvd is very short... barely an hour long I should think and you can fit much more onto a dvd.
A big let down after the first dvd which was pretty good value.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 29 Oct 2005, 16:20

I think i am going to cancel anyway, i just thought to myself why the heck am i buying this set? I probably own the fights already and they probably aren't even in full and the booklets won't tell me anything i don't already know about the fights/fighters so why the hell am i buying them for

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hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 30 Oct 2005, 12:24

i bought the full vhs set on ebay at the beginning of the year. it cost me £110 quid for the 72 videos and magazines.

i bought the first dvd and have asked me newsagent to get em in for me. starting to think twice about it meself.

Foggy · Post by **Foggy** » 30 Oct 2005, 17:51

hitman_hatton1 wrote:i bought the full vhs set on ebay at the beginning of the year. it cost me £110 quid for the 72 videos and magazines.

i bought the first dvd and have asked me newsagent to get em in for me. starting to think twice about it meself.

I've bought the first 2 episodes me self, aint watched the dvd's yet or read the mags (to busy out on the piss

)

Is there really 72 dvd's to collect or is that just for the videos's ????

1 x £1.99
71x5.99

= £427.28

WOW, thats alot of money to pay on boxing DVD's

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 30 Oct 2005, 19:29

It was 75 video's. I think someone here e-mailed this DVD company and they have either said 72 or 75.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 01 Nov 2005, 13:08

stujones wrote:It was 75 video's. I think someone here e-mailed this DVD company and they have either said 72 or 75.

Thats right Stu, 72 plus 3 'Specials' so 75 in total.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 01 Nov 2005, 17:58

On the subject of DVD's did anyone notice in Boxing News they mentioned about Real_Deal's "Guess Danny Williams weight" competition?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 01 Nov 2005, 18:09

steve689 wrote:On the subject of DVD's did anyone notice in Boxing News they mentioned about Real_Deal's "Guess Danny Williams weight" competition?

Yes, just goes to show you never now who is watching us.

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Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 02 Nov 2005, 12:05

1) Ali-Foreman, Liston I
2) Tyson-Berbick, Spinks, Bruno I
3) Duran-Buchanan
4) Frazier-Ali III, I
5) Marciano-Walcott I
6) Turpin-Robinson I
7) Foreman-Chuvalo, Frazier I, Norton, Frazier II
8 Leonard-Benitez
9) Great Heavyweights (Johnson-Moran, Dempsey-Sharkey, Louis-Galento, Marciano-Charles, Ali-Williams, Tyson-Thomas)
10) Robinson-Turpin II, Olson II
11) Holmes-Frank, M. Frazier, Tyson
12) Patterson-Johansson I, II, III
13) Ali-Wepner, Bugner
14) LaMotta-Cerdan, Dauthuille, Hairston, Hayes, Murphy I, Kilgore
15) Cooper-Erskine III, Clay, Ali
16) Monzon-Griffith II
17) Louis-Baer M., Sharkey, Braddock, Schmeling
18 Dempsey-Willard, Carpentier, Gibbons, Firpo
19) Moore-Durelle I, II
20) Great Middleweights (Ketchel-Papke, Walker-Milligan, Zale-Graziano III, Monzon-Benvenuti I, Hagler-Monroe II)
21) Hagler-Hart, Briscoe
22) Walcott-Layne, Charles III, IV, Marciano II
23) Robinson-Olson III, IV, Basilio I, II
24) Liston-Williams, Harris, Machen, Patterson I, II, Liston-Wepner
25) Tunney-Carpentier, Gibbons, Dempsey I, II
26) Great Welterweights (Ross-McLarnin, Armstrong-Garcia, Gavilan-Graham, Basilio-Saxton, Napoles-Lopez, Leonard-Hearns I)
27) Jack Johnson-Burns, Ketchel, Jeffries, Flynn
28 Hearns-Hayman, Cuevas, Singletary
29) Benvenuti-Griffith I, Rodriguez, Bethea
30) Cerdan-Charron, Manca, Walzack, Kawsyck, Zale
31) Buchanan-Laguna I
32) Schmeling-Sharkey I, Stribling, Louis I
33) Great British Fighters (Wilde-Symonds, Kid Lewis-Basham, Kid Berg-Mizler, Lynch-Brown, Turpin-Humez, Buchanan-Ortiz)
34) Louis-Baer B. I, Conn I, Simon II
35) Foster-Tiger, DePaula, Kendall, Rondon
36) Pep-Famechon, Saddler III, Savoie, Chavez, Cam
37) Griffith-Paret I
38 Great Lightweights (B. Leonard-Tendler, Ambers-Armstrong, Ike Williams-Beau Jack, Carter-DeMarco, Ortiz-Laguna, Duran-Kobayashi)
39) Charles-Louis
40) Arguello-Olivares
41) Farr-Louis, Braddock, Burman
42) Armstrong-Arizmendi IV, Ross, Arizmendi V
43) Ross-Canzoneri II, Petrolle II
44) Baer-Schmeling, Carnera
45) Benitez-Shields, Hope
46) People's Champions (Welsh-McFarland, Driscoll-Robson, Harvey-McAvoy, Woodcock-London, Cooper-Folley, Downes-Giardello)
47) Sadler-Riley, Pep IV, Bossio, Davis
48 Burns-Moir, Beckett
49) Jimmy Carter-Aragon, Salas, Araujo
50) Ortiz-Lane, Torres
51) Mills-Harvey, Woodcock, Bueno, Lesnevich, Ralph, Wodcock II
52) Tiger-Fernandez, Rouse
53) Carnera-Godfrey, Sharkey II, Impellitierre
54) Sharkey-Carnera I, Schmeling II
55) Carpentier-Smith, Beckett, Cook, Siki, Nilles
56) Gavilan-Janiro II, Cartier, Turner, Davey
57) Basilio-DeMarco I, II
58 Stracey-Napoles, Palomino
59) Pastrano-Johnson I, Downes
60) Canzoneri-Berg II, Klick, Ambers I, McLarnin I
61) Giardello-Panter, Cartier II, Troy, Fullmer, Tiger
62) Fullmer-Robinson I, Basilio I, Paret
63) Graziano-Janiro I, II, Robinson, Davey
64) Braddock-Loughran, Baer
65) Pender-Robinson, Downes, Basilio
66) Paret-Jordan, Griffith II
67) Ted Kid Lewis-Basham, McCormick, Gummer I, Carpentier
68 Joe Brown-Smith II, Charnley III
69) Ellis-Quarry
70) Olivares-Rose, Pimentel
71) Maxim-Mills, Murphy, Robinson

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 02 Nov 2005, 12:09

Kilburn,

Are you just stating what was on the vids, or is this what is going to be on the DVD's. If yes, then it is no different to the vids if memory serves me correctly.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 02 Nov 2005, 12:15

This is just a list of the videos in order, are the DVD's going to be that much different?

Personally I don't think it's worth subscribing to, you'd be sure to end up with a lot of fights that you wouldn't be bothered about watching.

I'd really like to see Dempsey v Firpo some time though.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 02 Nov 2005, 12:16

Kilburn wrote:This is just a list of the videos in order, are the DVD's going to be that much

Personally I don't think it's worth subscribing to, you'd be sure to end up with a lot of fights that you wouldn't be bothered about watching.

I'd really like to see Dempsey v Firpo some time though.

I just want to know if there are going to be any different DVD's. Surely you cannot have a collection now without the likes of Roy Jones, Lennox Lewis etc.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 02 Nov 2005, 13:12

Kilburn wrote:1) Ali-Foreman, Liston I
2) Tyson-Berbick, Spinks, Bruno I
3) Duran-Buchanan
4) Frazier-Ali III, I
5) Marciano-Walcott I
6) Turpin-Robinson I
7) Foreman-Chuvalo, Frazier I, Norton, Frazier II
8 Leonard-Benitez
9) Great Heavyweights (Johnson-Moran, Dempsey-Sharkey, Louis-Galento, Marciano-Charles, Ali-Williams, Tyson-Thomas)
10) Robinson-Turpin II, Olson II
11) Holmes-Frank, M. Frazier, Tyson
12) Patterson-Johansson I, II, III
13) Ali-Wepner, Bugner
14) LaMotta-Cerdan, Dauthuille, Hairston, Hayes, Murphy I, Kilgore
15) Cooper-Erskine III, Clay, Ali
16) Monzon-Griffith II
17) Louis-Baer M., Sharkey, Braddock, Schmeling
18 Dempsey-Willard, Carpentier, Gibbons, Firpo
19) Moore-Durelle I, II
20) Great Middleweights (Ketchel-Papke, Walker-Milligan, Zale-Graziano III, Monzon-Benvenuti I, Hagler-Monroe II)
21) Hagler-Hart, Briscoe
22) Walcott-Layne, Charles III, IV, Marciano II
23) Robinson-Olson III, IV, Basilio I, II
24) Liston-Williams, Harris, Machen, Patterson I, II, Liston-Wepner
25) Tunney-Carpentier, Gibbons, Dempsey I, II
26) Great Welterweights (Ross-McLarnin, Armstrong-Garcia, Gavilan-Graham, Basilio-Saxton, Napoles-Lopez, Leonard-Hearns I)
27) Jack Johnson-Burns, Ketchel, Jeffries, Flynn
28 Hearns-Hayman, Cuevas, Singletary
29) Benvenuti-Griffith I, Rodriguez, Bethea
30) Cerdan-Charron, Manca, Walzack, Kawsyck, Zale
31) Buchanan-Laguna I
32) Schmeling-Sharkey I, Stribling, Louis I
33) Great British Fighters (Wilde-Symonds, Kid Lewis-Basham, Kid Berg-Mizler, Lynch-Brown, Turpin-Humez, Buchanan-Ortiz)
34) Louis-Baer B. I, Conn I, Simon II
35) Foster-Tiger, DePaula, Kendall, Rondon
36) Pep-Famechon, Saddler III, Savoie, Chavez, Cam
37) Griffith-Paret I
38 Great Lightweights (B. Leonard-Tendler, Ambers-Armstrong, Ike Williams-Beau Jack, Carter-DeMarco, Ortiz-Laguna, Duran-Kobayashi)
39) Charles-Louis
40) Arguello-Olivares
41) Farr-Louis, Braddock, Burman
42) Armstrong-Arizmendi IV, Ross, Arizmendi V
43) Ross-Canzoneri II, Petrolle II
44) Baer-Schmeling, Carnera
45) Benitez-Shields, Hope
46) People's Champions (Welsh-McFarland, Driscoll-Robson, Harvey-McAvoy, Woodcock-London, Cooper-Folley, Downes-Giardello)
47) Sadler-Riley, Pep IV, Bossio, Davis
48 Burns-Moir, Beckett
49) Jimmy Carter-Aragon, Salas, Araujo
50) Ortiz-Lane, Torres
51) Mills-Harvey, Woodcock, Bueno, Lesnevich, Ralph, Wodcock II
52) Tiger-Fernandez, Rouse
53) Carnera-Godfrey, Sharkey II, Impellitierre
54) Sharkey-Carnera I, Schmeling II
55) Carpentier-Smith, Beckett, Cook, Siki, Nilles
56) Gavilan-Janiro II, Cartier, Turner, Davey
57) Basilio-DeMarco I, II
58 Stracey-Napoles, Palomino
59) Pastrano-Johnson I, Downes
60) Canzoneri-Berg II, Klick, Ambers I, McLarnin I
61) Giardello-Panter, Cartier II, Troy, Fullmer, Tiger
62) Fullmer-Robinson I, Basilio I, Paret
63) Graziano-Janiro I, II, Robinson, Davey
64) Braddock-Loughran, Baer
65) Pender-Robinson, Downes, Basilio
66) Paret-Jordan, Griffith II
67) Ted Kid Lewis-Basham, McCormick, Gummer I, Carpentier
68 Joe Brown-Smith II, Charnley III
69) Ellis-Quarry
70) Olivares-Rose, Pimentel
71) Maxim-Mills, Murphy, Robinson

72) Laguna - Ortiz.

Three Specials

Solid Gold - Patterson V Rademacher, Frazier V Ellis & Foreman V Lyle.
The Fab Four - Hagler, Duran, Leonard & Hearns.
The Ultimate Prize - Ali V Spinks 1&2.

johnswan1 · Post by **johnswan1** » 02 Nov 2005, 13:15

Yeah that's a bit crap if they just ignore the past twenty years. I have the first couple of issues myself but haven't got around to watching any of it yet.

Gordon · Post by **Gordon** » 03 Nov 2005, 09:49

I have just sold the entire VHS collection and there doesn't appear to be any difference.