Since when has Gary Sykes been a lightweight?lusop wrote:Mitchell v Gary Sykes i believe
Anthony Joshua at the 02???!!!!!!!
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I agreed with the OP really not a fan of this trend of guys topping the bill in their first fight.
Smacks of putting short term gain ahead of steady career progression.
Smacks of putting short term gain ahead of steady career progression.
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Thought there was 20,000 in for the Katsidis fight?mickey1975 wrote:Mitchell will do 20,000 now? He did a lot less against Katsidis in his back yard when he was at the peak of his popularity.ajwesty13 wrote:think the undercard itself will help to sell the event .. its only just over 20,000 and i think selby. mitchell and a possible Campbell on the bill would fill that....
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I don't think there was. 12-15 I would guess.expe wrote:Thought there was 20,000 in for the Katsidis fight?mickey1975 wrote:Mitchell will do 20,000 now? He did a lot less against Katsidis in his back yard when he was at the peak of his popularity.ajwesty13 wrote:think the undercard itself will help to sell the event .. its only just over 20,000 and i think selby. mitchell and a possible Campbell on the bill would fill that....
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if the show is called Carpe Diem does that mean they are going to seize the Day and put him strait in for a title or a Latvian lemming a Hungarian hairdresser or a lowly ranked brit :?? :?? :??Deano s wrote:who do we want for his first fight ? a Latvian lemming a Hungarian hairdresser or a lowly ranked brit ?
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I don't really understand the point of a debutant headlining against some jobber who he's going to win against. I'd much rather see him as a chief support of a 50/50 fight.
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x2Weirdyman wrote:I don't really understand the point of a debutant headlining against some jobber who he's going to win against. I'd much rather see him as a chief support of a 50/50 fight.
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Suppose it's hard to tell, the Boleyn Ground holds 35,000 plus seating on the pitch so it's hard to make an accurate judgement of how many are in if you don't know the ground well.mickey1975 wrote:I don't think there was. 12-15 I would guess.expe wrote:Thought there was 20,000 in for the Katsidis fight?mickey1975 wrote: Mitchell will do 20,000 now? He did a lot less against Katsidis in his back yard when he was at the peak of his popularity.
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Don't matter really? A pro debut is just about getting experience. Learning what fighting as a professional is all about. The first 10-ish fights are like that, of course. But ideally, with each opponent the test gets slightly more difficult. Whether that be a journeyman who is hard to knock out, or a person with an undefeated record who'll give it a go, but has no punching power, the idea is the early fights are supposed to gain experience. The pro debut itself is pretty much just getting the experience of being in the ring for the first time, and can be against any old idiot.Deano s wrote:who do we want for his first fight ? a Latvian lemming a Hungarian hairdresser or a lowly ranked brit ?
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Carpe dieme - crap idea
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I did think it was strange to have this fight at the o2 would have thought Wembley arena made more sense to be honest, but having read that its just the lower tiers open initially it makes a bit more sense. I don't think Selby sells any tickets, I literally didn't see a single person supporting him out in Belfast, and watching on TV the Hull card it looked like the total of his support was a couple of blokes with a Welsh flag. Which is a real shame as he deserves a home town following. I think I read something a while back about how Hearn was going to give him a fight in Wales to try and develop more support but I assume that went out the water when Rees lost who he presumably would have shared a card with.Bennyblanco wrote:Selby v ryan walsh is a good scrap on the card, hopefully mitchell will fight someone decent maybe rees, crolla, matthews etc?
Walsh will shift some tickets, they are always really well supported and this being a big fight should be even more so. Wonder if either of his other brothers will be on the card too?
Mitchell does ok for shifting tickets, so given a good opponent that will be a load more. Did someone say Camacho was on the bill too? I think he shifts some as would Evangelou but I assume its going to be too soon for Ochieng and Ryder. Even so I don't see this being especially full - none of my mates seem especially excited about going which I normally use as my gage for how popular the events going to be.
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Tom Dallas would be a good fight for Joshua
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Liam won't be , he's still with Frank, think he's on the copper box show, Michael could be though.mfc_se15 wrote:I did think it was strange to have this fight at the o2 would have thought Wembley arena made more sense to be honest, but having read that its just the lower tiers open initially it makes a bit more sense. I don't think Selby sells any tickets, I literally didn't see a single person supporting him out in Belfast, and watching on TV the Hull card it looked like the total of his support was a couple of blokes with a Welsh flag. Which is a real shame as he deserves a home town following. I think I read something a while back about how Hearn was going to give him a fight in Wales to try and develop more support but I assume that went out the water when Rees lost who he presumably would have shared a card with.Bennyblanco wrote:Selby v ryan walsh is a good scrap on the card, hopefully mitchell will fight someone decent maybe rees, crolla, matthews etc?
Walsh will shift some tickets, they are always really well supported and this being a big fight should be even more so. Wonder if either of his other brothers will be on the card too?
Mitchell does ok for shifting tickets, so given a good opponent that will be a load more. Did someone say Camacho was on the bill too? I think he shifts some as would Evangelou but I assume its going to be too soon for Ochieng and Ryder. Even so I don't see this being especially full - none of my mates seem especially excited about going which I normally use as my gage for how popular the events going to be.
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MachoMan09 wrote:Not first up. Even with amateurs oozing pedigree, I'd always advocate a knock-over job for their pro début.bigB wrote:Tom Dallas would be a good fight for Joshua
dallas is nothing
ud expect the Olympic champ to easily beat him.
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Considering those fights are in Belfast and Hull i'm not suprised if it was in Cardiff you would see the support Hearn said that Cardiff don't sell tickets, but for the Bolton bill which was going to be in Cardiff they only got 3k if that and he didn't think Cardiff would sell that many which is a joke IMO.mfc_se15 wrote:I did think it was strange to have this fight at the o2 would have thought Wembley arena made more sense to be honest, but having read that its just the lower tiers open initially it makes a bit more sense. I don't think Selby sells any tickets, I literally didn't see a single person supporting him out in Belfast, and watching on TV the Hull card it looked like the total of his support was a couple of blokes with a Welsh flag. Which is a real shame as he deserves a home town following. I think I read something a while back about how Hearn was going to give him a fight in Wales to try and develop more support but I assume that went out the water when Rees lost who he presumably would have shared a card with.Bennyblanco wrote:Selby v ryan walsh is a good scrap on the card, hopefully mitchell will fight someone decent maybe rees, crolla, matthews etc?
Walsh will shift some tickets, they are always really well supported and this being a big fight should be even more so. Wonder if either of his other brothers will be on the card too?
Mitchell does ok for shifting tickets, so given a good opponent that will be a load more. Did someone say Camacho was on the bill too? I think he shifts some as would Evangelou but I assume its going to be too soon for Ochieng and Ryder. Even so I don't see this being especially full - none of my mates seem especially excited about going which I normally use as my gage for how popular the events going to be.
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I wouldn't want to see Tom in there with Joshua to be honest. Dallas has no confidence whatsoever and I actually think he should retire.
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Rees defending his World title against Kotelnik was a terrible attendance. Less than a thousand, I think.
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I agree I think its a shame he hasn't had a chance to build up some home support so that at least when he did eventually have these fights in places like Belfast/Hull he was taking a few hundred etc with him.WelshJack wrote:Considering those fights are in Belfast and Hull i'm not suprised if it was in Cardiff you would see the support Hearn said that Cardiff don't sell tickets, but for the Bolton bill which was going to be in Cardiff they only got 3k if that and he didn't think Cardiff would sell that many which is a joke IMO.mfc_se15 wrote:I did think it was strange to have this fight at the o2 would have thought Wembley arena made more sense to be honest, but having read that its just the lower tiers open initially it makes a bit more sense. I don't think Selby sells any tickets, I literally didn't see a single person supporting him out in Belfast, and watching on TV the Hull card it looked like the total of his support was a couple of blokes with a Welsh flag. Which is a real shame as he deserves a home town following. I think I read something a while back about how Hearn was going to give him a fight in Wales to try and develop more support but I assume that went out the water when Rees lost who he presumably would have shared a card with.Bennyblanco wrote:Selby v ryan walsh is a good scrap on the card, hopefully mitchell will fight someone decent maybe rees, crolla, matthews etc?
Walsh will shift some tickets, they are always really well supported and this being a big fight should be even more so. Wonder if either of his other brothers will be on the card too?
Mitchell does ok for shifting tickets, so given a good opponent that will be a load more. Did someone say Camacho was on the bill too? I think he shifts some as would Evangelou but I assume its going to be too soon for Ochieng and Ryder. Even so I don't see this being especially full - none of my mates seem especially excited about going which I normally use as my gage for how popular the events going to be.
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He has boxed in Newport loads of times, including a defence of the Commonwealth straight after bearing Smith and Simpson. Eddie will know if he can sell or not.
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Tom put in a good nights work in his first fight back for over a year why would you be calling for him to retire after thatlillywhite14 wrote:I wouldn't want to see Tom in there with Joshua to be honest. Dallas has no confidence whatsoever and I actually think he should retire.
http://youtu.be/b_Tuz0aUFn4
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That is different because he was hardly known then and in Cardiff with Rees and a few of the prospects like Joshua and Campbell it would get 5k easily.mickey1975 wrote:He has boxed in Newport loads of times, including a defence of the Commonwealth straight after bearing Smith and Simpson. Eddie will know if he can sell or not.
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Tony Doherty sold a lot of tickets and was in a welsh derby, Rees was defending a world title, more welsh prospects plus Kell Brook and Ricky Burns and the show badly flopped. I remember being surprised at how few were there.WelshJack wrote:That is different because he was hardly known then and in Cardiff with Rees and a few of the prospects like Joshua and Campbell it would get 5k easily.mickey1975 wrote:He has boxed in Newport loads of times, including a defence of the Commonwealth straight after bearing Smith and Simpson. Eddie will know if he can sell or not.
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That was one time look at attendances in Cardiff for Cleverly's fights.mickey1975 wrote:Tony Doherty sold a lot of tickets and was in a welsh derby, Rees was defending a world title, more welsh prospects plus Kell Brook and Ricky Burns and the show badly flopped. I remember being surprised at how few were there.WelshJack wrote:That is different because he was hardly known then and in Cardiff with Rees and a few of the prospects like Joshua and Campbell it would get 5k easily.mickey1975 wrote:He has boxed in Newport loads of times, including a defence of the Commonwealth straight after bearing Smith and Simpson. Eddie will know if he can sell or not.
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It was the Skelton fight and prizefighter which made me think he should maybe turn it in.Deano s wrote:Tom put in a good nights work in his first fight back for over a year why would you be calling for him to retire after thatlillywhite14 wrote:I wouldn't want to see Tom in there with Joshua to be honest. Dallas has no confidence whatsoever and I actually think he should retire.he can still do something domestically
http://youtu.be/b_Tuz0aUFn4
I would love to see him do something domestically but think as soon as he is in with someone with a bit of ambition it will all go wrong again.
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He's a world champion and he struggles to pull in 5,000.WelshJack wrote:That was one time look at attendances in Cardiff for Cleverly's fights.mickey1975 wrote:Tony Doherty sold a lot of tickets and was in a welsh derby, Rees was defending a world title, more welsh prospects plus Kell Brook and Ricky Burns and the show badly flopped. I remember being surprised at how few were there.WelshJack wrote: That is different because he was hardly known then and in Cardiff with Rees and a few of the prospects like Joshua and Campbell it would get 5k easily.