Why is ther no Dutch boxers ...?

[J]

K1 MMA AND KICKBOXING ARE THE THINGS OVER HERE!

ernesto hoost, renee bonjasky, overeem ALL DUTCH.

[nfc90210]

When I think of Dutch boxing I'm reminded of a heavyweight father and son that fought each other quite recently too. The names escape me but they were often found at small hall shows in Germany.

Harry Duiven Jnr and Snr

Harry Duiven Jr fought on an MMA show in Doncaster today. He got disqualified for and illegal blow to the back of the head.

Going off-topic but that Ultimate Cage Fighting Championship show in Doncaster sounded like it was quite something.

A report on the show that someone posted on the UKFF (a UK pro-wrestling forum) is below.

In the interests of full disclosure, I should note that I have added double spacing to the paragraph breaks. Otherwise it is quoted verbatim.

http://ukff.com/index.php?showtopic=130 ... try2756384

Kawaii Guy @ Jul 27 2013, 23:52

Thought I would share my experiences of tonights UCFC show in Doncaster.

The show was originally supposed to feature Ken Shamrock vs Ian Freeman until Shamrock pulled out complaining of promoter bullshit.

It was at the Keepmoat, one side of the ground was open to fans and the cage set out on the pitch with a few rows of seats cageside, it filled up pretty nicely for the fights. The fights themselves started around 4 and were done by 7, 5 of the fights advertised did not happen and no reason was given for most of them (only the Neil Grove v Oli Thomson was announced as not happening previous to the doors opening)

For those wondering, Ian Freeman beat Ricco Rodrigez in the first round via TKO, hacked him down with leg kicks.

The real fun started after the fights, the cage had 3 walls taken down and was turned into a stage for the musical acts, the first was a guy playing covers on acoustic, the second a local rap act. half way though the rap acts set, they had to stop because of rain. this lead to professor greens headline set been cancelled.

Now, if you are going to put on a big show at a football ground, why the fornicate would you not think to put precautions out there in case it rained, imagine it had happened half way through the fight card!

There were some hilarious bits, aside from the usual MMA fans getting in fights, one guy streaked on the pitch and took a shit on the penalty spot (video coming).

Bit pissed off about it considering the ticket price I paid, but at least we got some humour out of the situation.

[CiganoBoxer]

Tyson Furys mate Albert ''The Hurricane'' Kraus is a dutch gypsy and a pretty good kickboxer ,Peter Fury told me himself that hes done some work with Albert who was toying with the idea of having some pro boxing fights , Peter really rated him ,said it was a waste of talent him kickboxing all these years .

Kraus is a very good kickboxer and he won the inaugural K1 World Max GP tournament, which was arguably the most prestigious kickboxing tournament at his weight. I doubt, however, that his boxing was good enough for him to make more $$$ boxing than kickboxing, and given the former's larger talent pool he probably wouldn't have competed at such a high level (e.g. winning credible world titles, beating world class opponents, etc). You never know though.

I was unaware that he is a gypsy. I'd be interested in seeing a list of gypsy combat athletes who aren't British or Irish.

he has the romany wagon in his banner motif
I got talking to him on Facebook , he told me of his ethnic background and he knew loads of UK gypsy familys that i knew ,it was all abit surreal :)

[CiganoBoxer]

K1 MMA AND KICKBOXING ARE THE THINGS OVER HERE!

ernesto hoost, renee bonjasky, overeem ALL DUTCH.

Overeem father is brittish tho and Overeem was born and bred in london to....just saying

[Graham Houston]

Wim Snoek wasn't a bad light-heavy in the 1950s, beat Alex Buxton and Albert Finch (both British light-heavy champions) in London and fought for the European title ... Luc Van Dam was a respectable middleweight, outpointed Albert Finch in London but Randy Turpin annihilated him in one round in a European title fight ... Bep Van Klaveren was considered remarkable in the 1950s because he was still boxing at a very decent standard into his late 40s. In fact, he went 15 rounds in an unsuccessful European welterweight title challenge in 1955, at the age of 48...Indeed, Bep seems to have been quite a fighter. He was a European lightweight champ and campaigned extensively in the U.S., where he scored wins over the outstanding Filipino fighter Ceferino Garcia and a Chilean world title contender named Stanislaus Loayza.

[stevedoc]

Wim Snoek wasn't a bad light-heavy in the 1950s, beat Alex Buxton and Albert Finch (both British light-heavy champions) in London and fought for the European title ... Luc Van Dam was a respectable middleweight, outpointed Albert Finch in London but Randy Turpin annihilated him in one round in a European title fight ... Bep Van Klaveren was considered remarkable in the 1950s because he was still boxing at a very decent standard into his late 40s. In fact, he went 15 rounds in an unsuccessful European welterweight title challenge in 1955, at the age of 48...Indeed, Bep seems to have been quite a fighter. He was a European lightweight champ and campaigned extensively in the U.S., where he scored wins over the outstanding Filipino fighter Ceferino Garcia and a Chilean world title contender named Stanislaus Loayza.

thanks graham ..i'm quite pleased with myself that have answer one of my questions you're one of my favourite writers ..

[ILikeBeer]

Audley fought for WBF back in the day against Dutch sunny Liston.

I remember watching it with my mate and cracking up how BBC and John inverdale were trying to hoodwink the viewer into thinking it was s world title fight.

Yeah, I never took to John Inverdale as a boxing pundit. He came across as smug. Didn't he have a go at one of the female tennis players for being ugly at this year's Wimbledon? Twat.

That aside, I remember being somewhat impressed by Audley's performance against Hersisa. Okay, we're not talking a real world title fight and Hersisa weren't exactly the second coming of Tyson. But Audley performed well on the night. I remember thinking at the time; "Ah, he's finally arrived as a professional. Let's see more of this, Audley."

He defended his title against such mighty opponents as Julius Francis and Tomasz Bonin, got injured and vacated the title. He hadn't arrived after all.