elmersalsa's top 50 greatest fighters of all-time

[elmersalsa]

This is my list of the 50 greatest fighters of all time, based on historical impact, awards and accomplishments, division dominance, world championship records, world records held, quality of opposition, longevity and contributions and influence in the sport of boxing.

My list goes:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Roberto Duran
6. Joe Gans
7. Willie Pep
8. Jack Johnson
9. Sam Langford
10. Harry Greb
11. Benny Leonard
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Rocky Marciano
14. Pernell Whitaker
15. Carlos Monzon
16. Jimmy Wilde
17. Ezzard Charles
18. Archie Moore
19. Marvin Hagler
20. Jack Dempsey
21. Sandy Saddler
22. Julio Cesar Chavez
23. Alexis Arguello
24. Eder Jofre
25. Stanley Ketchel
26. Barney Ross
27. Evander Holyfield
28. Emile Griffith
29. Ike Williams
30. Tony Canzonery
31. Freddie Miller (totally overlooked)
32. Gene Tunney
33. Panama Al Brown
34. Joe Walcott
35. George Foreman
36. Larry Holmes
37. Mickey Walker
38. Kid Gavilan
39. Salvador Sanchez
40. Aaron Pryor
41. Ruben Olivares
42. Bob Fitzsimmons
43. Terry McGovern
44. Dick Tiger
45. Michael Spinks
46. Carmen Basilio
47. Roy Jones, Jr.
48. Joe Frazier
49. Thomas Hearns
50. Ricardo "Finito" Lopez (a true all-time great)

It took me about a year and a half studying these great fighters...watching them on video help tremendously. It hurt me to put out guys like: Wilfredo Gomez, Kid Chocolate, Ted "Kid" Lewis, Manuel Ortiz, Charley Burley, Miguel Canto, Tiger Flowers and Pascual Perez...Any other fighter in mind that should be in the top 50???

This is JUST my personal list y'all. NO LIST HAS THE COMPLETE TRUTH.

[dnahar32]

Did you consider Fighting Harada who beat Jofre twice? He also won both the flyweight and bantamweight championships and was a bad decision against Johnny Famechon (he knocked Famechon down 3 times and even the hometown Sydney crowd booed the decision given to Famechon) away from winning 3 of the 8 original championships. I consider Harada the most accomplished oriental fighter ever.

[RazorKO]

This is my list of the 50 greatest fighters of all time, based on historical impact, awards and accomplishments, division dominance, world championship records, world records held, quality of opposition, longevity and contributions and influence in the sport of boxing.

My list goes:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Roberto Duran
6. Joe Gans
7. Willie Pep
8. Jack Johnson
9. Sam Langford
10. Harry Greb
11. Benny Leonard
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Rocky Marciano
14. Pernell Whitaker
15. Carlos Monzon
16. Jimmy Wilde
17. Ezzard Charles
18. Archie Moore
19. Marvin Hagler
20. Jack Dempsey
21. Sandy Saddler
22. Julio Cesar Chavez
23. Alexis Arguello
24. Eder Jofre
25. Stanley Ketchel
26. Barney Ross
27. Evander Holyfield
28. Emile Griffith
29. Ike Williams
30. Tony Canzonery
31. Freddie Miller (totally overlooked)
32. Gene Tunney
33. Panama Al Brown
34. Joe Walcott
35. George Foreman
36. Larry Holmes
37. Mickey Walker
38. Kid Gavilan
39. Salvador Sanchez
40. Aaron Pryor
41. Ruben Olivares
42. Bob Fitzsimmons
43. Terry McGovern
44. Dick Tiger
45. Michael Spinks
46. Carmen Basilio
47. Roy Jones, Jr.
48. Joe Frazier
49. Thomas Hearns
50. Ricardo "Finito" Lopez (a true all-time great)

It took me about a year and a half studying these great fighters...watching them on video help tremendously. It hurt me to put out guys like: Wilfredo Gomez, Kid Chocolate, Ted "Kid" Lewis, Manuel Ortiz, Charley Burley, Miguel Canto, Tiger Flowers and Pascual Perez...Any other fighter in mind that should be in the top 50???

This is JUST my personal list y'all. NO LIST HAS THE COMPLETE TRUTH.

No way Marciano is ahead of Holmes. And also journeyman Walcott

[iceman21287]

Lopez over Harada, Chang, Canto and Perez?!?!?! Why? The quality of his opposition wasn't equivalent to the quality of an Albanian hot-plate.

I completely agree. I have trouble putting Aaron Pryor ahead of Harada and Perez as well.

[Professor X]

Great list! Holyfield (champion from '86 to '00 against top-notch competition, starting with his twelveth pro fight) should be higher, of course. He was exactly in the Robinson/Armstrong mould (but , you know, heavier...surely, he would KO Charles, for example). Really solid list nonetheless. Hat's off to you, (E)lmersalsa, if I may.

ediit: Oh, and I would have Finito higher than #50. Just watch him once, and you know PDQ.

[BrocktonBlockbuster49]

And also journeyman Walcott

ur calling all time great ring technician jersey joe walcott a journeyman???

[Arsenal]

I think I would have Azumah Nelson in there somewhere. As a Lennox Lewis fan I would have him in there as well.

[elmersalsa]

And also journeyman Walcott

ur calling all time great ring technician jersey joe walcott a journeyman???

This is not Jersey Joe Walcott that I am speaking of. I am referring to the great "Barbados Demon", the ORIGINAL Joe Walcott who fought heavyweights being a welterweight. I was impressed of his line of work.

[BrocktonBlockbuster49]

And also journeyman Walcott

ur calling all time great ring technician jersey joe walcott a journeyman???

This is not Jersey Joe Walcott that I am speaking of. I am referring to the great "Barbados Demon", the ORIGINAL Joe Walcott who fought heavyweights being a welterweight. I was impressed of his line of work.

omg thats even worse, how could u call joe walcott Barbadoes a journeyman?????

i rate joe walcott 4th greatest welters of all time

[Ambling Alp]

Overall a good list. There isn't anyone in there that you can't atleast make a case for.
I also don't understand why Dran is so often rated higher than Leonard.
I do think that George Dixon should be in there as well as Bob Foster, and at the risk of sounding like broken record, Harold Johnson.
I would also put Michael Spinks much higher.
Again, overall, a respectable list. I know that it's difficult comparing fighters from different weight classes and different eras.

[walshb]

This is my list of the 50 greatest fighters of all time, based on historical impact, awards and accomplishments, division dominance, world championship records, world records held, quality of opposition, longevity and contributions and influence in the sport of boxing.

My list goes:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Roberto Duran
6. Joe Gans
7. Willie Pep
8. Jack Johnson
9. Sam Langford
10. Harry Greb
11. Benny Leonard
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Rocky Marciano
14. Pernell Whitaker
15. Carlos Monzon
16. Jimmy Wilde
17. Ezzard Charles
18. Archie Moore
19. Marvin Hagler
20. Jack Dempsey
21. Sandy Saddler
22. Julio Cesar Chavez
23. Alexis Arguello
24. Eder Jofre
25. Stanley Ketchel
26. Barney Ross
27. Evander Holyfield
28. Emile Griffith
29. Ike Williams
30. Tony Canzonery
31. Freddie Miller (totally overlooked)
32. Gene Tunney
33. Panama Al Brown
34. Joe Walcott
35. George Foreman
36. Larry Holmes
37. Mickey Walker
38. Kid Gavilan
39. Salvador Sanchez
40. Aaron Pryor
41. Ruben Olivares
42. Bob Fitzsimmons
43. Terry McGovern
44. Dick Tiger
45. Michael Spinks
46. Carmen Basilio
47. Roy Jones, Jr.
48. Joe Frazier
49. Thomas Hearns
50. Ricardo "Finito" Lopez (a true all-time great)

It took me about a year and a half studying these great fighters...watching them on video help tremendously. It hurt me to put out guys like: Wilfredo Gomez, Kid Chocolate, Ted "Kid" Lewis, Manuel Ortiz, Charley Burley, Miguel Canto, Tiger Flowers and Pascual Perez...Any other fighter in mind that should be in the top 50???

This is JUST my personal list y'all. NO LIST HAS THE COMPLETE TRUTH.

Great list, my only difference is that I never lump the real heavyweight champs thru history with the lighter weight fighters.......

Bit like the p4p debate, there's the heavies and then the rest of the gang....that's the beauty of the sport of boxing, it has the premier division....

Ali number 1 followed by Louis, Marciano, Foreman, Dempsey, Frazier, Johnson, Holmes, Holyfield and Tyson.....

Outside of the heavies you have to have Ray Robinson as number 1, followed by Duran, Armstrong, Ray Leonard, Monzon,

[silkov]

Good list but I'd have put Olivares higher also would have included Carlos Zarate and manuel Ortiz, and Pascuel Perez, Fighting Harada ahould all be top 20 I feel. Harada in my opinion is one of the most underrated of champions who should have joined the list of 3 weight world champions...

[chance]

Good list, have to disagree with some of the ordering though, but hey with as many fighters as there have been in history its hard to get agreement on that large a scale. Most notably, Ali is rated way to high in my opinion, but everybody rates that guy to high because he was so popular. Then again, maybe I'm just a hater. I feel like I'm always pointing out how over rated he was. Kid chocolate would be in the first part of my list so his absence is a porblem for me too. Gota drop Jack Johnson way down as well. Impressive list though. Where did you find video of all these guys?