Props to Kell Brook

lefty · Post by **lefty** » 04 Aug 2013, 19:42

People criticise me for criticising him but ive just been annoyed with the level of opposition upto now. Anyway going on this article he deserves some credit so

....http://www.BS.com/mike-jones-s ... out--68332.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 04 Aug 2013, 19:49

Brook is boring. Jones is not a great opponent.

Why are you bowing to Brook?

lefty · Post by **lefty** » 04 Aug 2013, 19:51

Horse wrote:Brook is boring. Jones is not a great opponent.

Why are you bowing to Brook?

Because whilst Jones's isnt the best in the division he still beat Soto-karass who has just knocked out Berto. Also he was pretty much dominating the fight against Bailey before he switched off and got hit with one of Baileys missiles. He's a decent fighter.

Horse · Post by **Horse** » 04 Aug 2013, 20:01

Great stuff Brook, well done (not really).

TJ77 · Post by **TJ77** » 05 Aug 2013, 05:02

Columbo props to you for addressing the balance it is the key to honest debate

If I had posted this im a fan boy but if your prepared to represent both sides of the argument in this way fairplay to you.

Horse change the record it is you that is boring.
Take a day off and lets see what plays out its all to be proved if Senchenko was the back up to Jones that does change things only slightly but it does.

lefty · Post by **lefty** » 05 Aug 2013, 05:13

TJ77 wrote:Columbo props to you for addressing the balance it is the key to honest debate
If I had posted this im a fan boy but if your prepared to represent both sides of the argument in this way fairplay to you.

Horse change the record it is you that is boring.
Take a day off and lets see what plays out its all to be proved if Senchenko was the back up to Jones that does change things only slightly but it does.

To be fair ive never doubted Brook's talent. I think he's a very intelligent boxer and very good counter puncher. It's just the opposition ive had an issue with. As a boxing fan as you'll know yourself you want to see the best fight the best and what have you otherwise it gets too boring and predictable.

Parson Cross · Post by **Parson Cross** » 05 Aug 2013, 05:21

So in conclusion Columbo, its the Promotors you are critical of.
Fighters can only fight who's put in front of them.

lefty · Post by **lefty** » 05 Aug 2013, 05:27

Parson Cross wrote:So in conclusion Columbo, its the Promotors you are critical of.
Fighters can only fight who's put in front of them.

True Parson but you know fighters turn down fights aswell.

Parson Cross · Post by **Parson Cross** » 05 Aug 2013, 05:42

I don't think that's accurate.
Terms and conditions plus money cause fights to be turned down.
Contolled by ....... the Promotor.

lefty · Post by **lefty** » 05 Aug 2013, 05:47

Parson Cross wrote:I don't think that's accurate.
Terms and conditions plus money cause fights to be turned down.
Contolled by ....... the Promotor.

What so you're saying that fighters dont ever turn down fights based on them not really fancying their chances?

Parson Cross · Post by **Parson Cross** » 05 Aug 2013, 05:51

If we are talking championship level fighters, in all my years I cannot give you one example of a fighter blatently saying - no way will I take that fight no matter what - if everything else is right ie the terms and conditions, options, money.

Parson Cross · Post by **Parson Cross** » 05 Aug 2013, 05:54

You then get the reverse psychology when fighters say - I want to fight him, but he doesn't want to know - when the truth is there's a pittance being offered, or the options etc just don't come up to scratch.
Risk and reward.

lefty · Post by **lefty** » 05 Aug 2013, 05:56

Parson Cross wrote:You then get the reverse psychology when fighters say - I want to fight him, but he doesn't want to know - when the truth is there's a pittance being offered, or the options etc just don't come up to scratch.
Risk and reward.

The reason I asked that is FW reckons he offered the fight with Jones twice and Kell or his dad turned it down and also he apparantly turned down an offer from Tim Bradley when he was with Hearn.

Parson Cross · Post by **Parson Cross** » 05 Aug 2013, 06:01

I cannot confirm or deny that.
However if it is true I would bet my house that Brook did not turn these fights down for fighting reasons it will have been exactly for the reasons expressed before.
Shit money, shit terms.
FW is an amazing Promotor.
Whenever a fighter leaves his set up it is amazing how much work he's put in, how many fights the fighter has turned down.
Yeah right ........

lefty · Post by **lefty** » 05 Aug 2013, 06:05

Parson Cross wrote:I cannot confirm or deny that.
However if it is true I would bet my house that Brook did not turn these fights down for fighting reasons it will have been exactly for the reasons expressed before.
poo money, poo terms.
FW is an amazing Promotor.
Whenever a fighter leaves his set up it is amazing how much work he's put in, how many fights the fighter has turned down.
Yeah right ........

Haha. Fairplay

bigB · Post by **bigB** » 05 Aug 2013, 07:11

This Jones thing is incorrect anyway's someone asked Eddie this on twitter and he said they hadn't approached Mike Jones for a fight.

Seems as though he is having a rough time with his Promoter who said he turned down this fight.

I remember FW was trying to make the K9 fight with Kell years ago aswell.

I know that Kell would fight anyone in the UK or US (Bradley fight, rubbish money, multiple options and to get a mandatory position he was advised right in my opinion

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