Tommy Morrisson vs . Larry Holmes

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Tommy Morrisson vs . Larry Holmes

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What happened in this fight?
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Holmes KO.
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Holmes KO 9 or 10
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gilgamesh wrote:Holmes KO 9 or 10
I think he ends it a little earlier.
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Rover wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Holmes KO 9 or 10
I think he ends it a little earlier.
Maybe. He definitely wins
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gilgamesh wrote:
Rover wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Holmes KO 9 or 10
I think he ends it a little earlier.
Maybe. He definitely wins
Agreed. Hope someone doesn't pick Morrison here.
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I pick Morrison.......to lose in 7.
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Ketchel wrote:I pick Morrison.......to lose in 7.
:lol:
You had me going there for a second...
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Morrison could beat the post-Holyfield version I think. Closer fight than against Foreman though.
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I think the Easton Assassin was an ATG.
I know Morrison wasn't. And his chin wasn't too good either.
Holmes wins as he pleases en route to a 6th round KO.
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polecateddy wrote:Morrison could beat the post-Holyfield version I think. Closer fight than against Foreman though.
That's way past prime Holmes; I assumed the OP was referring to primes. The Holmes of the McCall fight v. prime Morrison...tough one to call.
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what about the 226 lbs. sweetpea version that fought Foreman?
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tennessee wrote:what about the 226 lbs. sweetpea version that fought Foreman?
Holmes. Please don't classify any version of Morrison as Sweet Pea.
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The only way this bout is at all intriguing is if you make this bout circa 1992 with the Larry who beat Mercer. I say Morrison still loses.
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Rover wrote:
polecateddy wrote:Morrison could beat the post-Holyfield version I think. Closer fight than against Foreman though.
That's way past prime Holmes; I assumed the OP was referring to primes. The Holmes of the McCall fight v. prime Morrison...tough one to call.
Choosing a version of Holmes that Morrison could beat is better than prime for prime ...which is just silly!
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The only time this could have taken place would have been in the 1990's. The prime 1970's and 1980's Holmes would have stopped Tommy in four or five rounds. Holmes in his comeback was pretty remarkable, having defeated Ray Mercer in a one sided decision and all, but his outing with Holyfield wasn't as significant as Foreman's was. Holmes would also lose to Oliver McCall and Brian Nielsen. I'd pick Holmes to win it, only because Morrison wasn't always the most dependable guy. Morrison was very inconsistant in his performances. He would look like a million dollars against someone like Razor Ruddock, Joe Hipp, and George Foreman, and then would go life and death with Ross Purrity or get blown away by Michael Bentt. It all depends on what version of Tommy Morrison decided to show up.
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HomicideHenry wrote:The only time this could have taken place would have been in the 1990's. The prime 1970's and 1980's Holmes would have stopped Tommy in four or five rounds. Holmes in his comeback was pretty remarkable, having defeated Ray Mercer in a one sided decision and all, but his outing with Holyfield wasn't as significant as Foreman's was. Holmes would also lose to Oliver McCall and Brian Nielsen. I'd pick Holmes to win it, only because Morrison wasn't always the most dependable guy. Morrison was very inconsistant in his performances. He would look like a million dollars against someone like Razor Ruddock, Joe Hipp, and George Foreman, and then would go life and death with Ross Purrity or get blown away by Michael Bentt. It all depends on what version of Tommy Morrison decided to show up.
The Nielsen fight was years after McCall, right? And McCall was quite close.
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Rover wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:The only time this could have taken place would have been in the 1990's. The prime 1970's and 1980's Holmes would have stopped Tommy in four or five rounds. Holmes in his comeback was pretty remarkable, having defeated Ray Mercer in a one sided decision and all, but his outing with Holyfield wasn't as significant as Foreman's was. Holmes would also lose to Oliver McCall and Brian Nielsen. I'd pick Holmes to win it, only because Morrison wasn't always the most dependable guy. Morrison was very inconsistant in his performances. He would look like a million dollars against someone like Razor Ruddock, Joe Hipp, and George Foreman, and then would go life and death with Ross Purrity or get blown away by Michael Bentt. It all depends on what version of Tommy Morrison decided to show up.
The Nielsen fight was years after McCall, right? And McCall was quite close.
That be true on both counts, but let's be honest here. Concerning the McCall fight, the man was a tremendous underdog against Lewis and won on a freak kayo. McCall eeked out a victory over Holmes, etc. So is McCall really a guy to point to and say Holmes was still that damn good? Personally, I dont think so. Holmes was on the way out (and clearly by the time he fought Nielsen). If Morrison fought the Holmes of the McCall fight onward, I'd be making Morrison a live underdog. I wouldnt say he could kayo Holmes or anything like that, but I think Morrison could eek out a decision over Holmes by that time.
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HomicideHenry wrote:
Rover wrote:
HomicideHenry wrote:The only time this could have taken place would have been in the 1990's. The prime 1970's and 1980's Holmes would have stopped Tommy in four or five rounds. Holmes in his comeback was pretty remarkable, having defeated Ray Mercer in a one sided decision and all, but his outing with Holyfield wasn't as significant as Foreman's was. Holmes would also lose to Oliver McCall and Brian Nielsen. I'd pick Holmes to win it, only because Morrison wasn't always the most dependable guy. Morrison was very inconsistant in his performances. He would look like a million dollars against someone like Razor Ruddock, Joe Hipp, and George Foreman, and then would go life and death with Ross Purrity or get blown away by Michael Bentt. It all depends on what version of Tommy Morrison decided to show up.
The Nielsen fight was years after McCall, right? And McCall was quite close.
That be true on both counts, but let's be honest here. Concerning the McCall fight, the man was a tremendous underdog against Lewis and won on a freak kayo. McCall eeked out a victory over Holmes, etc. So is McCall really a guy to point to and say Holmes was still that damn good? Personally, I dont think so. Holmes was on the way out (and clearly by the time he fought Nielsen). If Morrison fought the Holmes of the McCall fight onward, I'd be making Morrison a live underdog. I wouldnt say he could kayo Holmes or anything like that, but I think Morrison could eek out a decision over Holmes by that time.
By the time of the Nielsen fight Morrison had gotten HIV and was done (I know about his couple comeback fights; I'm speaking in terms of fighting at the top level). Morrison of Ruddock fight v. Holmes of McCall fight is a close call.
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I've seen it suggested here that Larry got jobbed against Nielsen, and also that he got a gift against Mercer. I've not seen either fight to comment.
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Holmes favorite for me
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SamWise72 wrote:I've seen it suggested here that Larry got jobbed against Nielsen, and also that he got a gift against Mercer. I've not seen either fight to comment.
He legitimately beat Mercer.
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For me Holmes grinds the Duke down with that left jab for the first 7/8 rounds and then finishes him off somewhere around round 9/10. For me Larry Holmes had one of the best left jabs ever?
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polecateddy wrote:
Rover wrote:
polecateddy wrote:Morrison could beat the post-Holyfield version I think. Closer fight than against Foreman though.
That's way past prime Holmes; I assumed the OP was referring to primes. The Holmes of the McCall fight v. prime Morrison...tough one to call.
Choosing a version of Holmes that Morrison could beat is better than prime for prime ...which is just silly!
That's true. I think even a match with the early 90's Holmes who was able to compete with Holyfield and upset Ray Mercer would probably be about a 50/50 match against Morrison even at his best.

I'd still go with Holmes W12.
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IRLangmaid25 wrote:For me Holmes grinds the Duke down with that left jab for the first 7/8 rounds and then finishes him off somewhere around round 9/10. For me Larry Holmes had one of the best left jabs ever?
Agreed on his left jab.
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