Which Fighter Trained The Hardest?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 06 Nov 2005, 08:36

Who throughout the history of Boxing trained the hardest?

Was it Rocky Marciano?

Or Marvin Hagler maybe?

Any other fighters that you can thing of that trained harder and were more dedicated than the two I have just mentioned? I'm not really thinking of the best fighters, just who trained the hardest?

Any thoughts or stories on hard training fighters fight fans?

UpWithEvil · Post by **UpWithEvil** » 06 Nov 2005, 10:52

Jim Jeffries.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 06 Nov 2005, 13:42

Doesn't Bernard maintain his weight and always work out?

Jaclem · Post by **Jaclem** » 06 Nov 2005, 14:34

....not harder or more dedicated than those mentioned....but...just as much so...gene tunney.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 06 Nov 2005, 16:55

Terry Marsh and Bernard Hopkins come to mind.

As does The Marvelous one.

The Hawk · Post by **The Hawk** » 06 Nov 2005, 20:12

I always admired Wayne McCullough for his training through his career, always in shape and trains every day in his gym.

Past fighters, Hagler stands out, loved the storys of him training on a barren Island to get his anger up! Hell of a fighter.

kick asner · Post by **kick asner** » 06 Nov 2005, 21:13

James Scott supposedly trained very hard due to the fact he was in prison. You would think that in itself would give you incentive to train given the fact the alternative would have been boredom. To me the long hours of training would have been infinatly more appealing out of those two choices.

I think also Salvador Sanchez. He was a tremendously conditioned fighter. That's one of the reasons I have respect for guys like him and Hagler.

Tantum · Post by **Tantum** » 06 Nov 2005, 23:03

I would also say Hopkins. Though Hopkins probably trains the smartest... Not physically the hardest.

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 07 Nov 2005, 00:15

what abotu Bob Fitzsimmons? i remember seeing his schedule somewhere, although i cant recall exactly were...all i remember is saying i would die after 1 day.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 07 Nov 2005, 01:46

defintley marciano IMO. also u gotta include guys like tunney, and even joe louis who never showed up out of shape in his prime.

from what i have read and heard. honestly, marciano had some very freakish even scary weird training stories of how seriousely he took his body

sonny marciano said rock would sit by a machine and follow the ticker go back and forth with his eyes for 2 hours because he thought it would strengthen his eye muscles!!! talk about obessiion!!

there are other bizarre stories like that. the man was a physcho with strengthening his entire body

Syntax Error · Post by **Syntax Error** » 07 Nov 2005, 02:48

Evander Holyfield.

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 07 Nov 2005, 12:45

Decagon wrote:Dempsey once said, "it's hard to do roadwork when you wake up in silk pajamas.".

I thought it was Hagler who used that line?

Maybe Hagler just borrowed it?

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 07 Nov 2005, 13:35

Decagon wrote:Dempsey originated that line, although he may have borrowed it from someone else.

Fair enough.

RazorKO · Post by **RazorKO** » 07 Nov 2005, 13:42

Hagler
Coetzee
Ruddock
Frazier
Holmes
Patterson

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 07 Nov 2005, 13:48

RazorKO wrote: Coetzee
Ruddock
Holmes
Patterson

not including frazier and hagler, that list is a joke

i cant believe u didnt put marciano

coatzee and ruddock were not great fighters, i dont have them even close to my top 50 heavyweights of all time

RazorKO · Post by **RazorKO** » 07 Nov 2005, 14:34

BrocktonBlockbuster49 wrote:
RazorKO wrote: Coetzee
Ruddock
Holmes
Patterson

not including frazier and hagler, that list is a joke

i cant believe u didnt put marciano

coatzee and ruddock were not great fighters, i dont have them even close to my top 50 heavyweights of all time

You dont have to be great fighters, the thread is about fighters who trained the hardest. Coetzee and Ruddock might not be as talented as Ali or Holmes but they both trained like demons. Coetzee tortured his body to prepare for his fight with Dokes and Ruddock under Patterson's guidance also trained more than any other fighter in the 90's including Holyfield.

Controversial · Post by **Controversial** » 07 Nov 2005, 14:55

Nigel Benn was tremendously fit.

UpWithEvil · Post by **UpWithEvil** » 07 Nov 2005, 15:38

"For this fight he ran some 14 miles in the morning, alternating between a jog and a 100-yard sprint, without stopping to walk or rest and finishing the run within two hours. In the afternoon, he played three games of handball, punched the bag for 20 or 25 minutes straight, and skipped rope 1,500 to 2,500 times. He would then box from 12 to 16 rounds, and 'wrestle around' or toss an 18-pound medicine ball."

- Description of James J. Jeffries training for his first fight with Bob Fitzsimmons in 1899.

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 07 Nov 2005, 17:03

Decagon wrote:... and of course we know that's accurate.

There's no reason to think that it isn't accurate. Many of his fights were scheduled for 20 and 25 rounds, so conditioning was critical. And he was noted for his stamina and great recuperative powers.

Oh yes I forgot. He did fight more than 75 years ago, so that means he had no skills and no idea how to train.

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 07 Nov 2005, 17:06

coatzee and ruddock nowhere near trained to the level as marciano and frazier. marciano could punch non stop 15 rounds with an incredible punch rate, yet u dont have him on ur list. did u ever read about his training methods or dedication, its kinda a scary obsession. that guy was nuts. why do u think he was undefeated.

i dont care what u think of the man, this is one area where i think marciano is # 1 in. or at least at the top of the crop.

id also like to mention john l sullivan whom i heard ran 21 mile everday. if u dont think he has stamina, try fighting jack kilrain 75 rounds in the hot mississippi summer.

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 07 Nov 2005, 17:24

Decagon wrote:I'm really just looking for a source, here.

Yes, of course you are correct. My appologies.

Up, how do you respond to this inquiry?

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 07 Nov 2005, 19:50

Controversial wrote:Nigel Benn was tremendously fit.

Very good call

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 07 Nov 2005, 19:54

Just a thought for the modern guys

What about Ricky Hatton? - Jr Welterweight Champion of the World

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 07 Nov 2005, 21:22

this might sound a little biased..but anyone who knows a fair amount about braddock has heard of homicide hall. it was declared to be one of the hardest camps that any heavyweight title fighter had undergone in the history of boxing.

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 08 Nov 2005, 12:18

I've heard that Ali in his prime was an animal for the training and was always last ouit of he gym. Hagler was also knowm, McCullough, Holyfield.......but who was the fittest of the fit....5 names come to mind
Ali, Chavez, Hagler, McCullough and Frazier....some other mentions are Marciano, Robinson, Ray Leonard, Pryor (though suspect), Holyfield, Fenech, Steve Collins (though sloppy), Morales, Carbahal,...