Cassius Marcellus Clay '1963'

[Ezzard]

Ali was essentially duped by NOI.

They were a bad bunch of people but they were offering a take on a voice that up until then had been kept quiet for too long.

I don’t blame Ali for getting involved with them. But it was a case of trading one set of racists for another.

[gilgamesh]

Soon he's gonna tell us Ali doesn't have Parkinson's, he's been faking it for years to play off of people's sympathy.

That is very cruel Mr. Gilga-Mesh.

I didn't expect that from you.

Cruel towards whom? I wasn't being literal, just making a point.

[gilgamesh]

Were you criticizing the same person for making fun of others, and making them the
butt of jokes as well as embarrassing them for the sake of a cheap joke.

I was criticising you and the lengths you keep going to run down Ali.

You've already questions the man's convictions, and his motives behind them.

[gilgamesh]

You make it sound as if every post I add, and each thread I start is to knock someone.

How is this thread a knock on Cassius Clay.

I pose a legitimate question, and personal views come out against me.

Whatever man, you know what you're doing. I'm not going to keep pointing out to you something I know you already understand.

[Bobbyptsd]

You make it sound as if every post I add, and each thread I start is to knock someone.

How is this thread a knock on Cassius Clay.

I pose a legitimate question, and personal views come out against me.

You are so full of crap it's absurd. If you want to make a thread to knock Ali, go ahead I suppose. But at least have the balls to stand behind your own fvcking assertions.

[raylawpc]

Il Duce:

It's pretty easy to find an AP report. Subscribe to newspaperarchive.com:

http://newspaperarchive.com/

Find a newspaper that was an AP member, and go to the date you cite. You should find an AP report in the paper, copy and post it, and you've proved your point. If it's not in that newspaper, go to another one. Hundreds - maybe thousands - of newspapers are AP members.

Easy peeze!

[SteveO]

Let's sort out the name change dates once and for all:
26th February 1964 - The day after the Liston fight Cassius Clay announced that he has temporarily changed his name to Cassius X.
6th March 1964 - Cassius X and the NOI guy (forgot his name) publicly announced the name change to Muhammad Ali.