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114-114 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o That guy should not be a judge, ever again.
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SERIOUSLY. NO MORE WOMEN JUDGING FIGHTS!

CJ Ross is apathetic. An Adelaide Byrd had Ishe winning 8-4.

Christ!!
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Sids wrote:
Bobbyptsd wrote:
ajwesty13 wrote:Er why has the Commentary just said usa 2 Mexico 0
Because the US beat Mexico at a WC football qualifier earlier this week.

What that has to do with anything? Search me.
Perhaps a reference to Danny Garcia?
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Finn wrote:that judge should be struck off - a draw what an absolute joke. MD to floyd what a crock that was a clear UD as there possibly could have been.

Thats is absolutely insane she should be shot. If she isnt sacked theres something seriously wrong with boxing. More so than we already thought.
They said she was one of the judges that scored the Bradley v Pacquaio fight for Bradley.
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Craigyid14 wrote:114-114 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o That guy should not be a judge, ever again.
It's a woman haha.
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Had it 117-111 for Floyd.
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Bnovelist and judge Ross are one and the same. All makes sense. Kinda. HD.
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Okay. If columbo called it as well, fair play there, too. If only he was as good at showing class as with calling one particular fight, we'd be getting somewhere.

Since it's taking 20 minutes for me to get a post in and I'd actually like to watch the fight at some point, I'll type up my RBR for publication after the fact.

Rd 1- Floyd's jab was sharper and he outlanded Canelo, esp over the 2nd half of the round. Not much else between them. 10-9 Floyd.

Rd 2. Another close round. Canelo's two solid body shots and left hook narrowly outweighed Floyd's solid jabbing. 19-19

Rd 3. Ditto. Floyd's sharpshooting early vs. Canelo's pressure and counters later on. I go with Canelo narrowly. 29-28 Canelo

Rd 4. Best rd so far, but Mayweather was getting through with cleaner shots by and large. 38-38.

Rd 5. Canelo pushing Floyd back, and started landing his own jab with more regularity. Close for Canelo. 48-47 Canelo.

Rd 6.Canelo really starting to land clean. Looking very good. Still close, but the clearest round yet, and it's for Canelo. 58-56 Canelo.

Rd 7. Floyd dominant. 67-66 Canelo.

Rd 8. Floyd narrow advantage in clean punching, but Canelo controlled geography and was the aggressor. Close for Canelo. 77-75 Canelo.

Rd 9. Very close. I felt that Floyd was maybe the ring general, so I'll pull my trigger for him, but I could go either 86-85 Canelo.

Rd 10. Dominant for Canelo. 96-94 Canelo.

Rd 11. Canelo let himself get picked off and even pinned on the ropes once. 105-104 Canelo.

Rd 12- Canelo was the only one trying. 115-113 Canelo.

So many pick 'em rounds...I wouldn't be too mad about anything between 118-110 Alvarez and 117-111 Mayweather. Showtime team was unbelievably biased, though. Every jab Floyd landed was an event, while Canelo could throw 10 unanswered punches with Floyd pinned to the ropes, and the call was "Floyd calmly and coolly moves off the ropes." Talk about confirmation bias. Floyd can't be hit in their minds, so when Floyd gets hit, they view it with skepticism. This is the same syndrome that caused them to consider the Guerrrero fight a domination.
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columbo wrote:
Craigyid14 wrote:114-114 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o That guy should not be a judge, ever again.
It's a woman haha.
The racist b1tch :P
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marcianofan wrote:Okay. If columbo called it as well, fair play there, too. If only he was as good at showing class as with calling one particular fight, we'd be getting somewhere.

Since it's taking 20 minutes for me to get a post in and I'd actually like to watch the fight at some point, I'll type up my RBR for publication after the fact.

Rd 1- Floyd's jab was sharper and he outlanded Canelo, esp over the 2nd half of the round. Not much else between them. 10-9 Floyd.

Rd 2. Another close round. Canelo's two solid body shots and left hook narrowly outweighed Floyd's solid jabbing. 19-19

Rd 3. Ditto. Floyd's sharpshooting early vs. Canelo's pressure and counters later on. I go with Canelo narrowly. 29-28 Canelo

Rd 4. Best rd so far, but Mayweather was getting through with cleaner shots by and large. 38-38.

Rd 5. Canelo pushing Floyd back, and started landing his own jab with more regularity. Close for Canelo. 48-47 Canelo.

Rd 6.Canelo really starting to land clean. Looking very good. Still close, but the clearest round yet, and it's for Canelo. 58-56 Canelo.

Rd 7. Floyd dominant. 67-66 Canelo.

Rd 8. Floyd narrow advantage in clean punching, but Canelo controlled geography and was the aggressor. Close for Canelo. 77-75 Canelo.

Rd 9. Very close. I felt that Floyd was maybe the ring general, so I'll pull my trigger for him, but I could go either 86-85 Canelo.

Rd 10. Dominant for Canelo. 96-94 Canelo.

Rd 11. Canelo let himself get picked off and even pinned on the ropes once. 105-104 Canelo.

Rd 12- Canelo was the only one trying. 115-113 Canelo.

So many pick 'em rounds...I wouldn't be too mad about anything between 118-110 Alvarez and 117-111 Mayweather. Showtime team was unbelievably biased, though. Every jab Floyd landed was an event, while Canelo could throw 10 unanswered punches with Floyd pinned to the ropes, and the call was "Floyd calmly and coolly moves off the ropes." Talk about confirmation bias. Floyd can't be hit in their minds, so when Floyd gets hit, they view it with skepticism. This is the same syndrome that caused them to consider the Guerrrero fight a domination.
Haha. I just wanted you to admit you were wrong. That's all.
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marcianofan wrote:So many pick 'em rounds...I wouldn't be too mad about anything between 118-110 Alvarez and 117-111 Mayweather.
You need to leave the internet immediately.
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marcianofan wrote:Okay. If columbo called it as well, fair play there, too. If only he was as good at showing class as with calling one particular fight, we'd be getting somewhere.

Since it's taking 20 minutes for me to get a post in and I'd actually like to watch the fight at some point, I'll type up my RBR for publication after the fact.

Rd 1- Floyd's jab was sharper and he outlanded Canelo, esp over the 2nd half of the round. Not much else between them. 10-9 Floyd.

Rd 2. Another close round. Canelo's two solid body shots and left hook narrowly outweighed Floyd's solid jabbing. 19-19

Rd 3. Ditto. Floyd's sharpshooting early vs. Canelo's pressure and counters later on. I go with Canelo narrowly. 29-28 Canelo

Rd 4. Best rd so far, but Mayweather was getting through with cleaner shots by and large. 38-38.

Rd 5. Canelo pushing Floyd back, and started landing his own jab with more regularity. Close for Canelo. 48-47 Canelo.

Rd 6.Canelo really starting to land clean. Looking very good. Still close, but the clearest round yet, and it's for Canelo. 58-56 Canelo.

Rd 7. Floyd dominant. 67-66 Canelo.

Rd 8. Floyd narrow advantage in clean punching, but Canelo controlled geography and was the aggressor. Close for Canelo. 77-75 Canelo.

Rd 9. Very close. I felt that Floyd was maybe the ring general, so I'll pull my trigger for him, but I could go either 86-85 Canelo.

Rd 10. Dominant for Canelo. 96-94 Canelo.

Rd 11. Canelo let himself get picked off and even pinned on the ropes once. 105-104 Canelo.

Rd 12- Canelo was the only one trying. 115-113 Canelo.

So many pick 'em rounds...I wouldn't be too mad about anything between 118-110 Alvarez and 117-111 Mayweather. Showtime team was unbelievably biased, though. Every jab Floyd landed was an event, while Canelo could throw 10 unanswered punches with Floyd pinned to the ropes, and the call was "Floyd calmly and coolly moves off the ropes." Talk about confirmation bias. Floyd can't be hit in their minds, so when Floyd gets hit, they view it with skepticism. This is the same syndrome that caused them to consider the Guerrrero fight a domination.
You've had some really questionable scoring in your tenure here... but this is the most outlandish of all.
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Re: Mayweather vs Alvarez card

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columbo wrote:Haha. I just wanted you to admit you were wrong. That's all.
Oh I was wrong, no doubt about that. Just didn't particularly care for your approach. There wasn't anything wrong with my analysis of Garcia's chances based on his style and prior performances...he just stepped his game up. Good for you for anticipating that. If you watch his prior fights, though, you'll see that he was stiff and hittable. He was much more fluid this time, and I certainly didn't account for his chin.
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marcianofan wrote:Okay. If columbo called it as well, fair play there, too. If only he was as good at showing class as with calling one particular fight, we'd be getting somewhere.

Since it's taking 20 minutes for me to get a post in and I'd actually like to watch the fight at some point, I'll type up my RBR for publication after the fact.

Rd 1- Floyd's jab was sharper and he outlanded Canelo, esp over the 2nd half of the round. Not much else between them. 10-9 Floyd.

Rd 2. Another close round. Canelo's two solid body shots and left hook narrowly outweighed Floyd's solid jabbing. 19-19

Rd 3. Ditto. Floyd's sharpshooting early vs. Canelo's pressure and counters later on. I go with Canelo narrowly. 29-28 Canelo

Rd 4. Best rd so far, but Mayweather was getting through with cleaner shots by and large. 38-38.

Rd 5. Canelo pushing Floyd back, and started landing his own jab with more regularity. Close for Canelo. 48-47 Canelo.

Rd 6.Canelo really starting to land clean. Looking very good. Still close, but the clearest round yet, and it's for Canelo. 58-56 Canelo.

Rd 7. Floyd dominant. 67-66 Canelo.

Rd 8. Floyd narrow advantage in clean punching, but Canelo controlled geography and was the aggressor. Close for Canelo. 77-75 Canelo.

Rd 9. Very close. I felt that Floyd was maybe the ring general, so I'll pull my trigger for him, but I could go either 86-85 Canelo.

Rd 10. Dominant for Canelo. 96-94 Canelo.

Rd 11. Canelo let himself get picked off and even pinned on the ropes once. 105-104 Canelo.

Rd 12- Canelo was the only one trying. 115-113 Canelo.

So many pick 'em rounds...I wouldn't be too mad about anything between 118-110 Alvarez and 117-111 Mayweather. Showtime team was unbelievably biased, though. Every jab Floyd landed was an event, while Canelo could throw 10 unanswered punches with Floyd pinned to the ropes, and the call was "Floyd calmly and coolly moves off the ropes." Talk about confirmation bias. Floyd can't be hit in their minds, so when Floyd gets hit, they view it with skepticism. This is the same syndrome that caused them to consider the Guerrrero fight a domination.
And you have the audacity to call another poster a troll :witzend:
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118-110 Floyd

I thought it was competitive over the first half (not close to a schooling as some have said), but Alvarez came undone in the second half.
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CJ Ross probably would've had Carlos Baldomir winning 5 rounds against Floyd. Maybe would've thought Gatti got 3 rounds of the 6.

What an absolutely horrible judge
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Marciano fan, you're delusional. This fight was not even remotely close. Mayweather won with absolute ease.
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I only watched the fight from round 6 on but I have real trouble scoring any of the 7 rounds I watched for Canelo and I am not a Floyd fan.
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marcianofan wrote:
columbo wrote:Haha. I just wanted you to admit you were wrong. That's all.
Oh I was wrong, no doubt about that. Just didn't particularly care for your approach. There wasn't anything wrong with my analysis of Garcia's chances based on his style and prior performances...he just stepped his game up. Good for you for anticipating that. If you watch his prior fights, though, you'll see that he was stiff and hittable. He was much more fluid this time, and I certainly didn't account for his chin.
Ok. I apologise for my abrasive approach but im not buying that Garcia has improved that dramatically over a small number of months. The truth is that Danny was better than you thought and Matthysse wasnt quite as good.
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Also, I had DG-LMM 115-111 for Garcia.

I don't get why some are bitching about the official scores and I certainly don't think it was one-sided.
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Its all for a betting scam shes not useless she's just Bent... How much money do you think was on a UD...
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ajwesty13 wrote:Its all for a betting scam shes not useless she's just Bent... How much money do you think was on a UD...
Im not sure she's bent. I have a feeling she just genuinely doesnt have a bloody clue in regards to what she's watching.
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JCS wrote:
You've had some really questionable scoring in your tenure here... but this is the most outlandish of all.
Can you think of any examples? I was, I assume, closer to at least one of the actual judges than were most of you. I can't say I always agree with CJ Ross by any means, but I don't give a guy credit equivalent to landing heavy blows every time he does a shoulder roll like most people do with Floyd, and I expect that was her theory, too. I also don't give a guy credit in individual rounds for being the pound for pound king, or for being the Showtime commentators' unanimous favorite fighter. I watch the rounds. I watch who's landing the clean effective punching, who's the effective aggressor, and who's the ring general. You don't get any of that by reputation alone. Watch it on mute or just really carefully, and you'll see that in roughly half the rounds, Floyd isn't really doing all that much offensively. It's smoke and mirrors, aided by a co-operative broadcast team. Floyd is as good as anyone out there, give or take. But he's not invincible, and you shouldn't score his fights with the preconception that he is.
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columbo wrote:
marcianofan wrote:
columbo wrote:Haha. I just wanted you to admit you were wrong. That's all.
Oh I was wrong, no doubt about that. Just didn't particularly care for your approach. There wasn't anything wrong with my analysis of Garcia's chances based on his style and prior performances...he just stepped his game up. Good for you for anticipating that. If you watch his prior fights, though, you'll see that he was stiff and hittable. He was much more fluid this time, and I certainly didn't account for his chin.
Ok. I apologise for my abrasive approach but im not buying that Garcia has improved that dramatically over a small number of months. The truth is that Danny was better than you thought and Matthysse wasnt quite as good.
Fair enough. Beef over. :TU:
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Lmmfao @ a majority decision. F#ck the Nevada boxing commission for letting CJ Ross judge a huge fight.
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