There's got be a way to contact them and demand she be fired. If they ever use her again for ANY fight, they're a joke.ReggieDiggs wrote:Lmmfao @ a majority decision. F#ck the Nevada boxing commission for letting CJ Ross judge a huge fight.
columbo wrote:Im not sure she's bent. I have a feeling she just genuinely doesnt have a bloody clue in regards to what she's watching.ajwesty13 wrote:Its all for a betting scam shes not useless she's just Bent... How much money do you think was on a UD...
That kind of makes senseajwesty13 wrote:Its all for a betting scam shes not useless she's just Bent... How much money do you think was on a UD...
Is this a serious comment?marcianofan wrote:Seriously guys, watch the fight without the Showtime commentary before you call for her head on this one. I bet most of you have cards that are compatible with what I saw, but at least half the rounds were entirely open to debate based on subjective judging philosophy. It made it really easy to think the result was self-evident when the broadcasters basically assumed that Floyd won every round, though.
Stop trying to convince yourself that Showtime commentating is the reason why your card differs from everyone else's.marcianofan wrote:Seriously guys, watch the fight without the Showtime commentary before you call for her head on this one. I bet most of you have cards that are compatible with what I saw, but at least half the rounds were entirely open to debate based on subjective judging philosophy. It made it really easy to think the result was self-evident when the broadcasters basically assumed that Floyd won every round, though.
No offence man but noone's buying what you're trying to sell there.marcianofan wrote:Seriously guys, watch the fight without the Showtime commentary before you call for her head on this one. I bet most of you have cards that are compatible with what I saw, but at least half the rounds were entirely open to debate based on subjective judging philosophy. It made it really easy to think the result was self-evident when the broadcasters basically assumed that Floyd won every round, though.
I actually am waiting on my first assignment right now, sorry tell you. The head of the association of boxing commissions himself has liked every card I've ever turned in, and I've always been right in the mainstream of the officials ringside every time I've shadowed. I obsess over boxing judging, and treat it like a science. PLEASE do me a favor and watch this fight over again with an open mind and no Showtime commentary.ReggieDiggs wrote:Please boxing commissions around the US never let Marcianofan become a boxing judge. Anything between 9-3 Floyd and 10-2 Saul being alright by you is Angel Garcia crazy.
I can tell. More's the pity.columbo wrote:No offence man but noone's buying what you're trying to sell there.marcianofan wrote:Seriously guys, watch the fight without the Showtime commentary before you call for her head on this one. I bet most of you have cards that are compatible with what I saw, but at least half the rounds were entirely open to debate based on subjective judging philosophy. It made it really easy to think the result was self-evident when the broadcasters basically assumed that Floyd won every round, though.
What about those of us who didn't watch with Showtime commentary and are of sound mind and body and still think you nd CJ are imbeciles?marcianofan wrote:I actually am waiting on my first assignment right now, sorry tell you. The head of the association of boxing commissions himself has liked every card I've ever turned in, and I've always been right in the mainstream of the officials ringside every time I've shadowed. I obsess over boxing judging, and treat it like a science. PLEASE do me a favor and watch this fight over again with an open mind and no Showtime commentary.ReggieDiggs wrote:Please boxing commissions around the US never let Marcianofan become a boxing judge. Anything between 9-3 Floyd and 10-2 Saul being alright by you is Angel Garcia crazy.
Greatmarcianofan wrote:I actually am waiting on my first assignment right now, sorry tell you. The head of the association of boxing commissions himself has liked every card I've ever turned in, and I've always been right in the mainstream of the officials ringside every time I've shadowed. I obsess over boxing judging, and treat it like a science. PLEASE do me a favor and watch this fight over again with an open mind and no Showtime commentary.ReggieDiggs wrote:Please boxing commissions around the US never let Marcianofan become a boxing judge. Anything between 9-3 Floyd and 10-2 Saul being alright by you is Angel Garcia crazy.
, so we're gonna lose one incompetent judge and gain a new one. Hope it doesn't work out for you. You don't belong scoring fights.Can't remember round by round numbers, but Floyd landed over 100 more punches in all, and connected at over 40 percent overall and over 50 percent on power.jezzamundo wrote:Anyone seen the compubox numbers?
How do they get hold of the scorecards like that?!crusader wrote:
Ross gave Canelo 4 of the last 5!!
Well I don't like to create controversy where none is necessary, but if you can't see my card as reasonable, then I can't say I appreciate your ability as a judge any more than you probably do mine. And with all due respect and with an exception here or there, I'll put my experience and training against that of anyone here any day.Srebmun wrote:What about those of us who didn't watch with Showtime commentary and are of sound mind and body and still think you nd CJ are imbeciles?marcianofan wrote:I actually am waiting on my first assignment right now, sorry tell you. The head of the association of boxing commissions himself has liked every card I've ever turned in, and I've always been right in the mainstream of the officials ringside every time I've shadowed. I obsess over boxing judging, and treat it like a science. PLEASE do me a favor and watch this fight over again with an open mind and no Showtime commentary.ReggieDiggs wrote:Please boxing commissions around the US never let Marcianofan become a boxing judge. Anything between 9-3 Floyd and 10-2 Saul being alright by you is Angel Garcia crazy.
Well don't get me wrong. I think if you only gave Floyd 2 rounds it would probably indicate some serious overall bias. Obviously I didn't have the fight particularly close to that result, and so that would mean that if someone had that card, they would be picking against Floyd in every close round. That's all I'm saying...that Floyd didn't win more than a couple rounds beyond the margin of error, if you will. Floyd won 7 and 11 beyond all doubt in my opinion (which makes it all the more interesting that Moretti and Ross both gave Canelo round 11, of all rounds). Rounds 1-5, 8, and 9 were all razor-thin one way or the other. Canelo clearly won 6, 10, and 12. If anything, I think the judging being all over the place even round-by-round should indicate that it was a difficult fight to score for anyone but broadcasters, those with their own biases, and anyone influenced by the above.ReggieDiggs wrote:Please don't become a judge and screw up boxing even more if with a straight face you can say you think Floyd winning just two rounds last night is a reasonable position to hold. If it is you don't know sh!t about boxing as the great Roger Mayweather would say. Fights with several close rounds do happen which can drastically swing the scorecards either way but this wasn't one of them.
Ringside punch stats showed Mayweather dominance, crediting him with landing 232 of 505 punches to 117 of 526 for Alvarez.
Marcianofan, I hear exactly what you are saying. It all depends how one scores a fight. We all have different levels of what wins a round. So, say 1 punch is thrown and clearly lands on the chin (not knockdown) by person A, while person B throws 10 to 15 punches without any landing clean (maybe arms or just air), then some might vote A, some B. These are extreme numbers obviously but we all have different cut offs of how much a non clean punch is worth. Some say none (most of the posters here by the look of it),marcianofan wrote: Well I don't like to create controversy where none is necessary, but if you can't see my card as reasonable, then I can't say I appreciate your ability as a judge any more than you probably do mine. And with all due respect and with an exception here or there, I'll put my experience and training against that of anyone here any day.
I will say this: I've been out of the mainstream of opinion to some extent on each of Floyd's last 3 fights...and that's a pretty rare thing for me overall. That likely indicates one of two things, I would think. Either I am inherently incapable of appreciating something about him, or I am stylistically opposed to appreciating something about him that in my view ought not to be appreciated. I'm not certain I can articulate what that x-factor is, since I haven't heard a great deal of discussion as to just what it was that anyone thought he was doing that was winning him so many rounds beyond all reproach. I simply didn't see him landing a significantly higher number of clean effective punches, and if I'm being honest, I don't think I value his simply looking confident as much as I get the sense that some do. I always take a dim view of running (which some people confuse with ring generalship), but I don't really feel like he was doing much of that, if any, and so I doubt that's a factor at all.
ajwesty13 wrote:Its all for a betting scam shes not useless she's just Bent... How much money do you think was on a UD...
Good call