Ranking the heavyweights circa 1892-1902

[Cap]

Actually, it was George Dixon who wired his Mom in Canada that he was bringing home the bacon.

Cap

[Dempsey1238]

I have that Jeffies Sharkey bit,

Also have downloaded to my cpu, a 4 scon clip of Jeffies Fitz.


I dont think we can degrade Corbett from in the 1900's, as he was already pass his best, Still he put it togetor for one last effort vs Jim Jeffies.

Corbett's prime is more of pre1897. When he fought Sullivan, and yes even Fitz, Corbett had a good chin, but falls short of great.
He and Peter Jackson were hitting each other often over the couse of that 61 one bout, and Jackson could hit, and even though Sullivan was shot, He was still a puncher.

I think Corbett could beat Tom Sharkey imo, had it takeing place a few years early,

Sharkey was a good boxer though. base on the Jeffies film, he was NOT the all out slugger, myth and lord would make. The 2 rounds(Yes LOOPED) show a LOT of how good a boxer Sharkey was.

Now this is a film in a film fight. Yes if some guy did not sneak a cameral in the movie theater, (I guessing say the late 1910's???) Good thing though, because if he DID not do it, the fight film would be lost forever.

Now that I thinking of it, ALL of Jeffies fights, OUTside of Fitz's and Johnson that are on film today, are bootlegged.

[TheRiverCityHippy]

There are 10,000 different etymologies of "The Real McCoy."

nice word (i had to look it up in a dictionary), that account was part of an article i read ages ago about how boxing has entered the lexicon.
stake money or stakes (as in betting or horse racing) apparently comes from the early days of prize fighting when often the beaten fighters handlers didnt pay up so a stake was driven in the ground outside the ring but equi-distant from both camps and the money placed in purse`s (purse money also a betting term) and nailed to the stake.
the term ring apparently originated from the days when fighters roamed the english villages and towns looking for a challenger and a payday, these wandering pugilists would carry a large rope with them and hand it to the crowd who would form a large circle around the fighters. the `ring` became square because as boxing became more popular pushing and jostling in the crowd often turned the roped circle into a melee so posts were added to fix the rope to but the term ring stuck.
coming up to scratch originates from the old bareknuckle days too.
there were loads more but i`ve forgotten them, but it was interesting to see how boxing terminology from century`s ago have become everyday phrases.