I don't know why I just rewatched this fight, my memories of it was sort of like a glorified sparring session. But I was surprised when upon another viewing, it was actually a decent fight. And maybe for the first time I agreed with almost everything the HBO guys said, especially many steward, de la Hoya done a pretty good job defensively and when he used his jab and double jab to start his offence he would do well. There were long stretches of the fight when Oscar would stand in front if Floyd and do nothing, and Floyd would hit him 3-4 shots.
Seamus wrote:Before I say anything. Has anyone ever scored Barkley v Hearns II ?
I never watched the rematch. Just the first one. Why how'd you see it?
I do know I thought Hearns was kicking the crap out of Barkley in the first bout before he got caught, so it's hard to imagine Barkley beating him over 12 rounds. Like I said, I never watched the rematch though...so I'm basing that thought off of how the first fight went.
I'll probably offend a few Hearns fans, even though I wanted him to win, but honestly, I had it 11-0-1 on rds plus a knockdown for Barkley. The one thing you could say about Hearns, who was used as a punching bag by a pretty hitter, is that he showed once again, that while his chin wasn't made of titanium, it wasn't made of glass either.
Seamus wrote:I'll probably offend a few Hearns fans, even though I wanted him to win, but honestly, I had it 11-0-1 on rds plus a knockdown for Barkley. The one thing you could say about Hearns, who was used as a punching bag by a pretty hitter, is that he showed once again, that while his chin wasn't made of titanium, it wasn't made of glass either.
I'll try to catch Hearns-Barkley II sometime in the next few days, and I'll post here how I scored it when I do. For what it's worth, I don't recall ever hearing any controversy about the decision though. Don't know if most see it as clearly as you, but everybody seems to agree Barkley won the fight.
I cant remember my scorecard for Calzaghe v Reid,but i had Reid winning and was shocked at the decision(I was a big Calzgahe fan but felt Reid did more than enough to win)Im glad Joe won and had his perfect record though,not seen it since that night,i'll have to have another watch and see if i still think same,also the landlord of the pub i was in was sitting with me and though he wasnt scoring it round by round he thought Reid won aswell.
Make no mistake, Roy Jones Jr was almost certainly going to score a legitimate stoppage, but up until the last minute of the 9th round, Montell Griffin, a good but definitely not great fighter, was demonstrating that a prime Roy Jones Jr was beatable. Griffin, who didn't have one punch ko power was consistently dictating the pace and making Jones think about getting hit.
Make no mistake, Roy Jones Jr was almost certainly going to score a legitimate stoppage, but up until the last minute of the 9th round, Montell Griffin, a good but definitely not great fighter, was demonstrating that a prime Roy Jones Jr was beatable. Griffin, who didn't have one punch ko power was consistently dictating the pace and making Jones think about getting hit.
I never got to see that one. I've heard before that Montell was giving him one of his tougher bouts though.
R1. 10-9 VH
R2. 10-9 VH
R3. 10-10 Even
R4. 10-10 Even
R5. 10-9 DM (1 pt taken from Hill for a low blow)
R6. 10-9 DM
R7. 10-9 DM
R8. 10-9 DM
R9. 10-9 DM
R10. 10-9 DM
R11. 10-9 DM
R12. 10-10 Even
Dariusz Michalczewski 118-113
Several hard rounds to score in this bout because Hill just keep's throwing punches, and Michalczewski keep's coming forward. In the second half though Michalczewski's harder punches were noticeably beginning to take there toll. Don't know what more Hill could have done in this fight, but Michalczewski in my opinion didn't use his strong jab nearly enough.
I had it 57-57, but I don't think it was going to last more than 2 more rounds. Clay showed Liston he could hurt him in the 3rd round, and then in the 5th he took everything he could throw at him and still came out of the round in good shape. Liston looked like a broken man in the 6th.
Already misplaced my scorecards but I recently watched
Kirkland Laing vs Roberto Duran.
Laing runs the for the first 2 rounds, then in the 3rd realises he can consistently beat Duran to the punch. Roberto lands a few big shots the rest of the way, but really struggles to put combinations togather. At the bell he's looking pretty much gassed and only wins 1 of the last 8 rounds. I score it 97-95 (5-3-2-) for Kirkland Laing.
Frankie Liles vs Michael Nunn.
I really liked Nunn and wanted to see him win, but against Liles it was a case of the more skillful fighter losing to the guy who just wanted it more. Nunn as always showed moments of brilliance, followed by periods of lethargy, but in the end, Liles workrate was clearly the difference. The commentators for some reason saw very little to criticize in Nunn's performance and were even making the totally absurd claim that Liles needed a knockout to win in the final round. Actually it was the exact opposite. I had Liles winning 117-112, while the 3 judges had it 117-111, 114-113, 115-112 all for Liles.
R1 10-9 MS
R2 10-9 MS
R3 10-10 Even
R4 10-9 MS
R5 10-9 MB
R6 10-9 MS
R7 10-9 MS
R8 10-9 MS
R9 10-9 MB
R10 10-10 Even
R11 10-9 MB
R12 10-9 MB
Marlon Starling 116-114
As a big fan of Marlon Starling, I was a little disappointed with his performance over the last 4 rounds. Through 8 he had dominated and intimidated Breland, backed him up and had him hurt at least 3 times, and then for some reason he seemed to take his foot off the pedal and let Breland make it much closer than it ever should have been.
Can't see a case for Norton winning this fight as some people have claimed over the years. Whenever Ali used lateral movement and his jab he dominated. Norton made it competitive and had his moments, often when Ali layed on the ropes, but in the end, Ali's movement kept Norton from throwing the combinations he needed in order to win.
My card is slightly different but same verdict: