Tony Sibson vs Mustafa Hamsho

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Tony Sibson vs Mustafa Hamsho

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This would be a rough and tough rumble alright!!!.... Sibson had the better boxing skills but Mustafa was that bit tougher.... this would be a bloody brawl... I go for Sibbo via a close decision!...
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Oooh...

I think Sibbo might get disheartened when Hamsho took that left hook and kept coming back for more.

I think the fight would get messy from about the 5th as Hamsho was prepared to eat the hook in order to get in close and negate Sibson's better skills.

Hamsho was a tough customer and I think he can win this fight.
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Ezzard wrote:Oooh...

I think Sibbo might get disheartened when Hamsho took that left hook and kept coming back for more.

I think the fight would get messy from about the 5th as Hamsho was prepared to eat the hook in order to get in close and negate Sibson's better skills.

Hamsho was a tough customer and I think he can win this fight.
It did actually cross my mind that Tony might get a bit discouraged in this matchup, but it was really in the later part of his career that Sibbo seemed to have lost a bit of heart for the game. Tony had the most trouble with boxers I think while a brawler like Hamsho would be much more Sibsons cup of tea. I think a peak Sibson of the early 80s would relish a war with Hamsho and would have enough skills to edge out a tough decision. I agree that this could perhaps go either way though... it would perhaps depend finally on where it took place... :box:
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It would certainly favour Sibson if the fight was in UK. I can't imagine that Sibson would win a fight in Syria (hamsho was from Syria, wasn't he? I really should look these things up on BoxRec database before posting these details).

if the fight took place in say vegas I'd go for Hamsho. In general we Brits don't seem to travel too well (although there is the odd exception). You can't get a decent cup of tea you know :wink:
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Always considered Hamsho a dirty fighter who though very rugged was lacking in skill. He seemed to rough up and intimidate a young Bobby Czyz and Wilfred Benitez early in there bouts and then dictated the pace in route to one sided victories. Tony Sibson isn't one of the alltime greats at MW BUT I think he was one of the strongest fighters at that weight of the last 25 years. Hamsho would get rough with Sibbo. but when they got into the clinches, Mustafa would be the one getting pushed backward. If it's the Sibson who KO'd Minter and took a one sided decision from no 1 contender Dwight Davison, than he's the one who dictates the pace. Bullies thrive on intimidation, against Sibson it wouldn't work, and I see the Englishman winning by about 97-94.
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Isn't it true that Sibson had no trainer, no manager and for a good part of his career often went to the gym after a full day of doing heavy construction work. If that's so, than it's pretty amazing that he managed to become a number 1 contender.
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Seamus wrote:Isn't it true that Sibson had no trainer, no manager and for a good part of his career often went to the gym after a full day of doing heavy construction work. If that's so, than it's pretty amazing that he managed to become a number 1 contender.
That may have been true early in his career but by the time he was a contender he was trained by George Francis I belive. His first manager was Sam Burns I think, then later he switched to Mickey Duff.
Sibson was known to not always have been the hardest of trainers and was quite an emotional character. Looking back over his career I've always thought that he perhaps had too many fights too early in his career and this led to him becoming a bit jaded with the buisness later on. Just a theory, but he had a lot of fights while still a teenager and in his early 20s...
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mercman wrote:Could be right. Sibson turned pro on his 18th birthday and had over 30 fights before he was 21. Maybe he got burnt out or disenchanted with the game. It seems to happen with a lot of fighters who start their careers very young.

Similarly, we've heard and discussed all sorts of theories about Joe Bugner's apparent lack of motivation but maybe it was a similar thing for him too. He turned pro at 17 and had loads of fights when basically he was just a youngster. Perhaps he just had enough and got bored with it all. Maybe we are looking at things too deeply.
Well I think it is the case that many fighters who turn pro before their 20s are often retired by their mid- or late 20s.
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Post by zuru »

I agree that Hamsho was tough as nails,and strong.But so was Sibson,and Sibson had better boxing skills,and punched much harder.I remember reading that Alan Minter said "It was like getting hit in the face with a cinder block"(or something similar)to take Sibson's punches.I too saw Sibson walk thru D.Davison,who in one rating I saw rated a the HARDEST puncher in the middleweights around this time.Hamsho's technique was kind of similar to Bazooka limon's.A lot of off balance arm punching.Plus Hamsho cut much more easily than Sibson.Just because he lasted longer against Hagler doesn't mean a lot,if taking a good punch could make you a champion,Tex Cobb would have won the Heavyweight title,and STILL be defending it.Sibson would manhandle,and unanimously beat the rugged Hamsho,
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