Glasgow 24th September.

[Emmseegee]

As soon as there is a thread about boxing in scotland it always just turns into a cock fight between the same old names.

My fighter could do this, my fighter could do that, my mate can sell this many tickets, your mate cant.

We may not have many top level fighters but we could contend for world titles in bitching...... In quite a few weight divisions.

[bluenoseshf]

I find it so funny that both billy and Davidee prove my point. You go on about ricky selling x amount, ronnie selling y amount, brothy selling 3 tickets. At the end of the day the vast majority of the tickets should be sold by morrison or gilmour the promoters but the end of the day they old pudendum could barely sell fanny in a hoore house.

I fought on a amatuer/semi pro show in edinburgh that sold 2000 tickets tonight.

There was a show in Kilmarnock that iam sure was meant to be Morrison that got cancelled cos he cant sell fornicate all.

Its laughable when Billy says Alex is a good promoter because he gets his fighters on sky. If it wasnt for ricky that dinosaur pudendum would be extinct by now.

[JamieM]

Agree with the last poster. Promotors should be doing there job but it seems in pro boxing don't sell tickets you don't fight. Fighters should train and fight not be chasing people for money. Ronnie has a lot of friends and family who take that job off h and I'm sure lee Mcallister has the same. Couldn't very any more right about the Morrison fighters. They won't be on tv for a while as Ricky recovers from injury and if he ever does loss they will be same boat as other fighters.

[billy nelson]

I find it so funny that both billy and Davidee prove my point. You go on about ricky selling x amount, ronnie selling y amount, brothy selling 3 tickets. At the end of the day the vast majority of the tickets should be sold by morrison or gilmour the promoters but the end of the day they old pudendum could barely sell fanny in a hoore house.

I fought on a amatuer/semi pro show in edinburgh that sold 2000 tickets tonight.

There was a show in Kilmarnock that iam sure was meant to be Morrison that got cancelled cos he cant sell eff all.

Its laughable when Billy says Alex is a good promoter because he gets his fighters on sky. If it wasnt for ricky that dinosaur pudendum would be extinct by now.

I see the point your making mate but The most important thing that your negeletcting is Ricky has the talent the top sky shows and Alex has moved him into that position,at present Tommy hasn't anyone to top a sky show that why he goes cap in hand to promoters with tv.
So to further enhance my point why do Tommy and Paul pull fighters off show if a fighter doesn't sell enough tickets, something the BBBofC say shouldn't be getting done, ive never know Alex to do this ever.

[billy nelson]

Agree with the last poster. Promotors should be doing there job but it seems in pro boxing don't sell tickets you don't fight. Fighters should train and fight not be chasing people for money. Ronnie has a lot of friends and family who take that job off h and I'm sure lee Mcallister has the same. Couldn't very any more right about the Morrison fighters. They won't be on tv for a while as Ricky recovers from injury and if he ever does loss they will be same boat as other fighters.

Your the typical Scottish negative pudendum Jamie lol
The diffrence being these fighters have a real chance because ther talented not deluded like you

[billy nelson]

Agree with the last poster. Promotors should be doing there job but it seems in pro boxing don't sell tickets you don't fight. Fighters should train and fight not be chasing people for money. Ronnie has a lot of friends and family who take that job off h and I'm sure lee Mcallister has the same. Couldn't very any more right about the Morrison fighters. They won't be on tv for a while as Ricky recovers from injury and if he ever does loss they will be same boat as other fighters.

To put a more positive spin something like " hopefully it will be a while till Ricky losses and in the meantime the undercard fighters need to develop and try and reach a level were they can top sky shows themselves" you reall come across a negative man

[David McAllister]

I'm sure Ricky can sell loads of tickets because the Coatbridge boys are loyal but i was just wanting to put it out there that there are other ticket sellers out there not just Ricky Burns and David Brophy both who train with Billy!![/quote]
For the world title fights the attendances were (these are estimations based on what I saw on TV and reported figures)
Martinez - 2,500 sell out
Evensen - 4,000
Laryea - 5,000
Cook - ?
Katsidis - ?
Moses - 6,000
Mitchell - 9,000+
Gonzalez - 7,000
Beltran - 7,000

For the Mitchell fight there was practically no undercard, Simpson in a Celtic title fight was the only fight over 8 rounds.

If those figures aren't right or someone has the attendances then feel free to correct me.[/quote]

7,000 is a fair bit off 10,000 too!! haha

I know quite a lot of people attended the Mitchell fight to see Scott Harrison but if those figures are true then they are very good attendances. You also have to remember that Aberdeen doesn't have the population or the other fighters to sell out arena's that big but i believe that if we could have got the win against Shafikov then we could have opened the arena out to 5000 to defend against a bigger name. Nobody had ever heard of him and lee was only the challenger for the title, all the undercard fights except Matty and Darren Traynor doing 4 rounders were Maloney's boys from down south and they never sold any tickets.[/quote]But thats the promoters job to stack a bill full of his fighters not full of young lads doing 4x3's thats conning the public but I cant understand why nobody knew Shafikov hes an excellent fighter but to say there was no other challenger for Shafikov is a bit far fetched David.
The guy came because he was getting more money than hed have earned before, he was the champion fighting in the challengers home town you get well paid[/quote]


Haha Billy maybe you should have read the post properly, I said that Lee was ONLY THE CHALLENGER for the belt!! Denis was the champion so that makes Lee the CHALLENGER does it not?

I never said Lee was THE only challenger he could have boxed but Lee was definitely the challenger for the belt on that night mate.

If nothing else Billy your good for a laugh at times!! Haha

I'd also like to say that it's great that Ricky is keeping Scottish boxing on TV and long may it continue because without the exposure Scottish boxing will be in the dark. Whether we like it or not there is no other fighter worthy of topping a TV bill in Scotland at present.

[JamieM]

Billy are you serious? You want everyone to put a positive spin on things when you only have positivity on morrisons stable and your own. Slating
Gilmour and I'm sure I see you slate prospect also. Billy Ricky doesn't need you to continue to fight his corner as he won't care. He's a great fighter everyone knows that but your talking
Him to a level he cannot reach (bit like you say us being deluded in that last comment) billy read what I put about ronnie and in no way am
I deluded. Me saying I want him
To fight michael Roberts, kris Hughes etc says I rate him
Domestically at the moment. Billythere's a thing about opinions.... There all different. You chop and change yours depending on mood. The bitching between promotors is nothing short of a joke. Work together and try promote Scottish boxing

[billy nelson]

Billy are you serious? You want everyone to put a positive spin on things when you only have positivity on morrisons stable and your own. Slating
Gilmour and I'm sure I see you slate prospect also. Billy Ricky doesn't need you to continue to fight his corner as he won't care. He's a great fighter everyone knows that but your talking
Him to a level he cannot reach (bit like you say us being deluded in that last comment) billy read what I put about ronnie and in no way am
I deluded. Me saying I want him
To fight michael Roberts, kris Hughes etc says I rate him
Domestically at the moment. Billythere's a thing about opinions.... There all different. You chop and change yours depending on mood. The bitching between promotors is nothing short of a joke. Work together and try promote Scottish boxing

I talk Ricky up coz he's the only one in Scotland who can fight at world level, you should've proud of what he's achieved and be glad there's someone telling folk about him.what he's achieved so far let alone the future
Who's everybody mate,Ricky's a two weight undefeated world champion you fornicating idiot nobody that you'll ever know will get remotely lose to

[RonnieTheSharkClark]

Shame on Scottish Boxing! 4 pages of complete disrespect, jealousy, bitterness and spelling mistakes!!!

[semtexreilly]

Shame on Scottish Boxing! 4 pages of complete disrespect, jealousy, bitterness and spelling mistakes!!!

aint that the truth!!! i sincerely hope you get the opportunity to prove the doubter wrong ronnie!!!

[JamieM]

Billy you really are losing your marbles.

[billy nelson]

Billy you really are losing your marbles.

Not at all inmate the thing is your so far wrong but think your so right which is very concerning beleive me

[SMASHING]

Shame on Scottish Boxing! 4 pages of complete disrespect, jealousy, bitterness and spelling mistakes!!!

The only Shame on Scottish boxing is that there is only about 8 people posting on this

Also full of grammar mistakes

I think BN just likes to stir things up

All the Best in your next Fight

[daviddee]

Anyway back on topic!! I take it your not coming to the fight then Billy? My dad used to always tell me that if I have not got something positive to say then say nothing!! So the positive. Ronnie has a fight and the Saviour of Scottish boxing is still World Champion!! I'm with you Billy I hope the find someone else amongst all the Scottish lads that are coming through but unlike you I don't care which manager/promoter has that fighter!! Vote Yes .. Alba gu Brath :)

[geoffburt07]

Yeah best of luck to all involved. Hopefully kris and Ronnie get the win. Kris will be wanting to get back into contention for a title and same goes for Clark. As for craig v McNicol , al go nuts and say a draw with about 4 different cuts bloodbath!! Haha.

[David McAllister]

Good luck to all the boys boxing tonight!

[billy nelson]

Anyway back on topic!! I take it your not coming to the fight then Billy? My dad used to always tell me that if I have not got something positive to say then say nothing!! So the positive. Ronnie has a fight and the Saviour of Scottish boxing is still World Champion!! I'm with you Billy I hope the find someone else amongst all the Scottish lads that are coming through but unlike you I don't care which manager/promoter has that fighter!! Vote Yes .. Alba gu Brath :)

I think I'm washing my hair tonight but please wish Ronnie well for me

[rio]

Billy are you serious? You want everyone to put a positive spin on things when you only have positivity on morrisons stable and your own. Slating
Gilmour and I'm sure I see you slate prospect also. Billy Ricky doesn't need you to continue to fight his corner as he won't care. He's a great fighter everyone knows that but your talking
Him to a level he cannot reach (bit like you say us being deluded in that last comment) billy read what I put about ronnie and in no way am
I deluded. Me saying I want him
To fight michael Roberts, kris Hughes etc says I rate him
Domestically at the moment. Billythere's a thing about opinions.... There all different. You chop and change yours depending on mood. The bitching between promotors is nothing short of a joke. Work together and try promote Scottish boxing

I talk Ricky up coz he's the only one in Scotland who can fight at world level, you should've proud of what he's achieved and be glad there's someone telling folk about him.what he's achieved so far let alone the future
Who's everybody mate,Ricky's a two weight undefeated world champion you effing idiot nobody that you'll ever know will get remotely lose to

Billy is it true that you admitted to beltrans manager that burns lost the fight. He said you and hearn both said he lost. Hearn has admitted as much, will you do the same?

[billy nelson]

Billy are you serious? You want everyone to put a positive spin on things when you only have positivity on morrisons stable and your own. Slating
Gilmour and I'm sure I see you slate prospect also. Billy Ricky doesn't need you to continue to fight his corner as he won't care. He's a great fighter everyone knows that but your talking
Him to a level he cannot reach (bit like you say us being deluded in that last comment) billy read what I put about ronnie and in no way am
I deluded. Me saying I want him
To fight michael Roberts, kris Hughes etc says I rate him
Domestically at the moment. Billythere's a thing about opinions.... There all different. You chop and change yours depending on mood. The bitching between promotors is nothing short of a joke. Work together and try promote Scottish boxing

I talk Ricky up coz he's the only one in Scotland who can fight at world level, you should've proud of what he's achieved and be glad there's someone telling folk about him.what he's achieved so far let alone the future
Who's everybody mate,Ricky's a two weight undefeated world champion you effing idiot nobody that you'll ever know will get remotely lose to

Billy is it true that you admitted to beltrans manager that burns lost the fight. He said you and hearn both said he lost. Hearn has admitted as much, will you do the same?

I said to him they deserved an immediate rematch and that's what there getting as far as I'm aware

[rio]

Fair enough. Does that mean talk of moving to 140 is on ice until Beltran gets his rematch?

[daviddee]

Results from tonight

Barry Craig v Ryan Mcnicol. 59-57 Craig
Ronnie "The Shark" Clark v Rogowski. 5th round ref stopped fight Rogowski also down

Kris Carslaw v ? 60-54 Carslaw

[billy nelson]

Fair enough. Does that mean talk of moving to 140 is on ice until Beltran gets his rematch?

Neithier myself,Ricky or Alex ever mentioned we'd be looking to move to 140 lbs at anytime after the fight,I'd only like Ricky to do that after he unifies titles

[rio]

Fair enough. Does that mean talk of moving to 140 is on ice until Beltran gets his rematch?

Neithier myself,Ricky or Alex ever mentioned we'd be looking to move to 140 lbs at anytime after the fight,I'd only like Ricky to do that after he unifies titles

Yeah but your promoter eddie hearn did.

[billy nelson]

Fair enough. Does that mean talk of moving to 140 is on ice until Beltran gets his rematch?

Neithier myself,Ricky or Alex ever mentioned we'd be looking to move to 140 lbs at anytime after the fight,I'd only like Ricky to do that after he unifies titles

Yeah but your promoter eddie hearn did.

he can suggest all he likes but Ricky will be staying at Lightweight