Sahaprom/O.Canizales.
Sahaprom/O.Canizales.
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Re: Sahaprom/O.Canizales.
OOOOOOOH! One of your best matchups Rove. Really tough call. Liked both guys and they could both throw volumes. IMO, Canizales was the better pure boxer, but he could be drawn into trading. This is a toss-up fight for me.
Re: Sahaprom/O.Canizales.
Thanks!giacomino wrote:OOOOOOOH! One of your best matchups Rove. Really tough call. Liked both guys and they could both throw volumes. IMO, Canizales was the better pure boxer, but he could be drawn into trading. This is a toss-up fight for me.
I'd go with Orlando; I think it'd be a slugfest, and he had the better chin. Never down AFAIK.
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Re: Sahaprom/O.Canizales.
Good match up.I'd go with Orlando.Canizalez TKO 6
Re: Sahaprom/O.Canizales.
Canizalez.
Sahaprom, being a counterpuncher, likes to invite engagement by putting his elbows forward in that classic muay thai stance. he's wide open, for crosses, it is this bad habit that was exploited by Hasegawa.
Sahaprom, being a counterpuncher, likes to invite engagement by putting his elbows forward in that classic muay thai stance. he's wide open, for crosses, it is this bad habit that was exploited by Hasegawa.
Re: Sahaprom/O.Canizales.
seen both guys' full title reigns, or at least all their major fights.
sahaprom without a doubt.
doubt is an interesting word because canizales despite his firepower often appeared confused, nervous, edgy. he had a nice punch repertoire but his right hand was not straight enough. apart from seabrooks 1 & 2 fights, and perhaps hardy 2, he never had that many satisfying wins & the defeats to junior jones and wilfredo Vazquez saw him pretty soundly outboxed. always felt canizales was a one trick pony with that punch zig, punch zag routine which wore a bit thin.
veeraphol was a master, with 2 perfect beatdowns of tatsuyoshi (comparable to mayweather-gatti), a 4 fight marathon with prime nishioka (comparable to the 1st 3 marquez-vazquez wars), masterclasses over vargas & barrajas. I've simply seen sahaprom do more, more variety, more skill, more control, more stamina, more calm...in harder circumstances (biggest fights in japan; canizales' biggest fights in his hometown) ... even the defeat to hozumi, the very old veeraphol was tearing into the Japanese fighter, very nearly keeping up with the future champ.
to think the man was engaging in brutal wars, winning 3 muay thai titles, vs some of the legends, like Samson dutch boy gym. it's a pity they didn't fight again as boxers, a gap in both men's oeuvres; before becoming a boxer, to do what he did. and then you see canizales, slumping to defeat vs super bantam champs Vazquez & junior jones, plodding through those fights with little confidence or variety (compare sahaprom, 2-0-2 vs nishioka, future 122 champ; pushing hasegawa to the limit, future 126 and - if he beats kiko Martinez - 122 champ). obviously the thai didn't fight over 118 but he did better vs guys who achieved in higher weights.
veeraphol's probably the most underrated fighter on these boards (with canizales one of the most overrated). he was textbook and he proved it against some tough opponents. he had the great punch repertoire, but he could also box well on the back foot, as he did vs hulking guys like denkaosan kaovichit & Mongolia's choi tsevenpureev.
sahaprom without a doubt.
doubt is an interesting word because canizales despite his firepower often appeared confused, nervous, edgy. he had a nice punch repertoire but his right hand was not straight enough. apart from seabrooks 1 & 2 fights, and perhaps hardy 2, he never had that many satisfying wins & the defeats to junior jones and wilfredo Vazquez saw him pretty soundly outboxed. always felt canizales was a one trick pony with that punch zig, punch zag routine which wore a bit thin.
veeraphol was a master, with 2 perfect beatdowns of tatsuyoshi (comparable to mayweather-gatti), a 4 fight marathon with prime nishioka (comparable to the 1st 3 marquez-vazquez wars), masterclasses over vargas & barrajas. I've simply seen sahaprom do more, more variety, more skill, more control, more stamina, more calm...in harder circumstances (biggest fights in japan; canizales' biggest fights in his hometown) ... even the defeat to hozumi, the very old veeraphol was tearing into the Japanese fighter, very nearly keeping up with the future champ.
to think the man was engaging in brutal wars, winning 3 muay thai titles, vs some of the legends, like Samson dutch boy gym. it's a pity they didn't fight again as boxers, a gap in both men's oeuvres; before becoming a boxer, to do what he did. and then you see canizales, slumping to defeat vs super bantam champs Vazquez & junior jones, plodding through those fights with little confidence or variety (compare sahaprom, 2-0-2 vs nishioka, future 122 champ; pushing hasegawa to the limit, future 126 and - if he beats kiko Martinez - 122 champ). obviously the thai didn't fight over 118 but he did better vs guys who achieved in higher weights.
veeraphol's probably the most underrated fighter on these boards (with canizales one of the most overrated). he was textbook and he proved it against some tough opponents. he had the great punch repertoire, but he could also box well on the back foot, as he did vs hulking guys like denkaosan kaovichit & Mongolia's choi tsevenpureev.