British Top 30 P4P October 2013

[Horse]

1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Ricky Burns
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Martin Murray
5. (5.) Darren Barker
6. (6.) Amir Khan
7. (7.) Tyson Fury
8. (8.) George Groves
9. (9.) Tony Bellew
10. (10.) Jamie McDonnell

11. (11.) Kell Brook
12. (12.) Ola Afolabi
13. (13.) Nathan Cleverly
14. (14.) Matthew Macklin
15. (15.) Carl Frampton
16. (21.) Dereck Chisora
17. (16.) Lee Selby
18. (17.) James DeGale
19. (18.) Scott Quigg
20. (24.) Billy Joe Saunders

21. (20.) Frankie Gavin
22. (19.) Lee Haskins
23. (22.) Brian Rose
24. (28.) Derry Mathews
25. (23.) Darren Hamilton
26. (25.) Stephen Smith
27. (26.) Anthony Crolla
28. (27.) Gavin Rees
29. (29.) Andy Lee (Irish)
30. (30.) John Simpson

[Horse]

Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

[hurlock]

You having a laugh??

You ever considerd becoming a boxing judge??

[winkveron]

Love how people are so quick to slag off someone who spends time doing something they themselves can't be arsed doing!

[daviddee]

Murray should be below Barker and McDonnell.. Haye is too high has hardly fought. Bellew shouldn't be above Clev. He lost to a elite fighter shouldn't lose too many places for that.

[Newport Daz]

I don't see much to disagree with to be honest. I'd maybe drop Burns a couple of places due to two poor back to back fights, buth that would be it really.

[Horse]

You having a laugh??

No.

You ever considerd becoming a boxing judge??

Not really.

[ajwesty13]

thanx horse mate for your time ... stil think haye is to high and barker should be above murray.. but i said that last time...

[danconnollyeire]

Haye out for inactively, Burns down to about 5th, Barker above Murray

[Horse]

Love how people are so quick to slag off someone who spends time doing something they themselves can't be arsed doing!

[Horse]

Murray should be below Barker and McDonnell..

Murray arguably beat a top 10 P4P fighter in the world in his last fight. I think he deserves to be above Barker and he definitely deserves to be above McDonnell.

Haye is too high has hardly fought.

If Murray and Barker win their next fights they'll probably overtake Haye.

Bellew shouldn't be above Clev. He lost to a elite fighter shouldn't lose too many places for that.

Kovalev is world class, but he hasn't proven himself to be elite yet. Bellew has a much better record than Cleverly since they fought 2 years ago.

[Horse]

I don't see much to disagree with to be honest. I'd maybe drop Burns a couple of places due to two poor back to back fights, buth that would be it really.

I considered dropping Burns a few places, but that would make Haye No. 2 and he deserves that position less than Burns.

If Barker and Murray both beat decent opponents next then they'll probably overtake Burns.

[expe]

Haye shouldn't be ranked, he hasn't fought for well over a year.

[Horse]

thanx horse mate for your time ... stil think haye is to high and barker should be above murray.. but i said that last time...

[Horse]

Haye out for inactively,

He does have a fight lined up, so I'm going to leave him in.

Burns down to about 5th,

That would be a reasonable ranking.

Barker above Murray

If he beats Sturm in December he'll overtake Murray and probably others.

[Horse]

Haye shouldn't be ranked, he hasn't fought for well over a year.

He's planning on fighting on though, so I will keep him in.

[ThereByTheGrace]

Haye shouldn't be ranked, he hasn't fought for well over a year.

He's planning on fighting on though, so I will keep him in.

Yes "planning"....

Anyway Burns is pants, Clev would beat Bellew again and Froch is miles ahead of everyone on the list at the moment.

[Horse]

Yes "planning"....

Anyway Burns is pants, Clev would beat Bellew again and Froch is miles ahead of everyone on the list at the moment.

Burns isn't pants, he is still a solid top 10 fighter in the lightweight division and I think he can beat Beltran fairly in a rematch.

I'd pick Bellew to beat Cleverly at the moment. I think Cleverly's recent feasting on bums before being destroyed by Kovalev has done him a lot of damage.

Yes, Froch is the clear No. 1.

[hurlock]

You class haye a fraud yet rank him high for somebody who ain't fought in a year.

& didn't geale defeat sturm?

[Horse]

You class haye a fraud yet rank him high for somebody who ain't fought in a year.

Haye is a world class fighter, but that doesn't mean he isn't hugely overrated.

& didn't geale defeat sturm?

Yes.

[hurlock]

Didn't barker beat geale??

You think fury beats haye aswell don't you

[palooka]

1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Ricky Burns
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Martin Murray
5. (5.) Darren Barker
6. (6.) Amir Khan
7. (7.) Tyson Fury
8. (8.) George Groves
9. (9.) Tony Bellew
10. (10.) Jamie McDonnell

11. (11.) Kell Brook
12. (12.) Ola Afolabi
13. (13.) Nathan Cleverly
14. (14.) Matthew Macklin
15. (15.) Carl Frampton
16. (21.) Dereck Chisora
17. (16.) Lee Selby
18. (17.) James DeGale
19. (18.) Scott Quigg
20. (24.) Billy Joe Saunders

21. (20.) Frankie Gavin
22. (19.) Lee Haskins
23. (22.) Brian Rose
24. (28.) Derry Mathews
25. (23.) Darren Hamilton
26. (25.) Stephen Smith
27. (26.) Anthony Crolla
28. (27.) Gavin Rees
29. (29.) Andy Lee (Irish)
30. (30.) John Simpson

I'm not sure Bellew ought to be above Cleverley, Burns has had 2 bad fights and a gift decision, Afolabi boxes once a year (at high level) and comes up short, Saunders shouldn't have jumped 4 spots for the Ryder win - it was very close and Ryder wasn't really fancied, Frankie Gavin shouldn't have been dropped for a win over Barnes who can be a very reluctant dance partner.

[Horse]

Didn't barker beat geale??

Yes.

You think fury beats haye aswell don't you

Yes.

[Horse]

I'm not sure Bellew ought to be above Cleverley,

Bellew has a better recent record and has probably improved more than Cleverly has since their first fight.

Burns has had 2 bad fights and a gift decision, Afolabi boxes once a year (at high level) and comes up short,

Burns will be overtaken when those just below him win their next fights against good opposition.

Over the last 4 years Afolabi fights twice a year on average. Less than 18 months ago Afolabi drew with Huck, who is agruably the No. 1 cruiserweight in the world. Afolabi has shown that he can compete with the best and he deserves a decent ranking.

Saunders shouldn't have jumped 4 spots for the Ryder win - it was very close and Ryder wasn't really fancied, Frankie Gavin shouldn't have been dropped for a win over Barnes who can be a very reluctant dance partner.

Gavin produced a very boring fight with Barnes and he has to take his share of the blame for that. He wasn't impressive and I didn't think he deserved much credit for that win, so Saunders overtook him.

Saunders only beat Ryder narrowly, but Ryder looked to be a good fighter that a lot of people were fancying to win before the fight.

[palooka]

Thanks for replying