Heavyweight title fights that never came off

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 15 Nov 2005, 01:14

had these fights took place who would have won

rocky marciano vs nino valdez

jack dempsey vs harry wills

jack johnson vs joe jeanette(when he was champ)

floyd patterson vs cleveland williams

my predictions

marciano KO 7 valdez- valdez style would have been made for marciano. rocky would have a lot easier time vs the bigger target slower slugger, than cagey faast slick master boxers charles, walcott, lastarza.

dempsey KO 4 wills- dempsey at his best against bigger men. wills chin could be dented.

johnson 15 unanimous jeanette

patterson 15 unanimous williams- i think patterson had the recup powers to get off the canvas if knocked down and trouble williams with his boxing skills like machen and terrell did. but williams could finish him early, especiaally a young patterson

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 15 Nov 2005, 08:30

Bowe - Lewis

Bowe - Tyson

JC · Post by JC » 15 Nov 2005, 14:54

On the orginal bouts I'd take

Marciano by KO

Dempsey Wills is hard to say, as you mention Dempsey could deal with larger men but Wills knew how to use his size advatage rather than just lumbering in and presenting a big target.

johnson pts

Patterson close decision

Ones I'd like to throw in the mix

Foreman vs Holmes (late 70s)

Gene Tunney vs George Godfrey

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 15 Nov 2005, 15:33

tunney unanimous godfrey

holmes TKO 10 late 70s foreman- i dont know about prime 72-73 foreman

lennox lewis KO 8 Riddick Bowe

thunderfromdownunder · Post by **thunderfromdownunder** » 15 Nov 2005, 19:42

didnt a bout between braddock and schmelling get cancelled?

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 15 Nov 2005, 21:52

sure did. braddock woulda won too!!

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 15 Nov 2005, 23:15

Rory McCloskey wrote:sure did. braddock woulda won too!!

i dont know about that, schmeling was the better boxer and harder puncher. it would be a close fight, but i give the edge to schmeling.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 15 Nov 2005, 23:19

rocky marciano over nino valdez

jack dempsey over harry wills

jack johnson vs joe jeanette Draw......

cleveland williams over Floyd Patterson. Williams by KO

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 15 Nov 2005, 23:32

BB you may be right. i was just jokin around.. there was a thread on this a while back. i still cant pick a winner!! ahhh i dunno who to pick

hawaiianpunch · Post by **hawaiianpunch** » 16 Nov 2005, 01:46

Lewis TKO5 Bowe, Bowe never convinced me he wasn't afraid of Lewis.
Tyson TKO3 Bowe. Bowe just got hit too much, that is bad against Tyson.
Holmes TKO10 (late 70's)Foreman. Prime Holmes UD over Prime Foreman.
Just for the hell of it, Vitali KO3 Rahman, if it did happen!

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 16 Nov 2005, 02:43

hawaiianpunch wrote:Lewis TKO5 Bowe, Bowe never convinced me he wasn't afraid of Lewis.
Tyson TKO3 Bowe. Bowe just got hit too much, that is bad against Tyson.
Holmes TKO10 (late 70's)Foreman. Prime Holmes UD over Prime Foreman.
Just for the hell of it, Vitali KO3 Rahman, if it did happen!

what about

marciano vs valdez

dempsey vs wills

johnson vs jeanette(rematch during title reign)

patterson vs williams??

whats ur opinion on those

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 16 Nov 2005, 12:29

dempsey vs. wills.... that would have been something.. its a shame it never happend, as i no they came close enough that they printed tickets and were about to have the fight take place, when dempsey backed out. i would venture to guess that dempsey would have probly won this fight. Wills was a great fighter and all but dempsey was beyond any fighter he ever met. And that left hook...i think that catches him i nthe mid rounds. 7-9 round fight with Dempsey swarming wills until he gives in nd loses by TKO

cybox · Post by **cybox** » 16 Nov 2005, 16:30

Larry Holes vs Gerrie Coetzee for the WBC/WBA never materialized in 1984

RazorKO · Post by **RazorKO** » 16 Nov 2005, 17:37

cybox wrote:Larry Holes vs Gerrie Coetzee for the WBC/WBA never materialized in 1984

Holmes wins if he doesnt go toe to toe with the Bionic man

Randineous · Post by **Randineous** » 16 Nov 2005, 21:33

What about John L. Sullivan vs. Peter Jackson, which personally I think is one of the great missing pages from Heavyweight history?

dnahar32 · Post by **dnahar32** » 17 Nov 2005, 00:25

Randineous wrote:What about John L. Sullivan vs. Peter Jackson, which personally I think is one of the great missing pages from Heavyweight history?

That's a good one. I think Peter Jackson was more skilled than Sullivan, but Sullivan had that stamina to last and last. The Jackson-Corbett fight was called a draw because the fighters were spent and going through the motions. The fighters did little fighting over the last hour or more. Sullivan went 75 rounds drinking brandy along the way to beat Kilrain. Plus, all the conditions and rules would have been stacked against Jackson even if he got a shot against the popular Sullivan.

I think Sullivan would have won in controversial fashion if they did meet. In a fair fight, I think Peter Jackson wins.