Holmes v Witherspoon
Holmes v Witherspoon
Who did you score it vote for?
A sort of Boxrec version of a newspaper decision.
A sort of Boxrec version of a newspaper decision.
Re: Holmes v Witherspoon
I've only watched the entire fight once, and that was about a week after it took place. I had Holmes a clear winner.
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Re: Holmes v Witherspoon
from memory not an easy fight to score. Witherspoon took Holmes' jab away for large parts of the fight, and the cross-armed defence was absorbing quite a lot of Holmes' punches. 'Spoon did some excellent work to the body, from memory Holmes started to close it up after Spoon had opened an early lead
i recall thinking it was a 7-5 either way/ draw type fight.
i recall thinking it was a 7-5 either way/ draw type fight.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Holmes v Witherspoon
I had Tim by a point.
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dempseyfire
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Re: Holmes v Witherspoon
Close fight; Witherspoon had bigger moments but Larry won more rounds.
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I had Holmes by a point, Larry pulled it out late. Could have gone either way really.
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i dont know why there is so much debate on this holmes easily
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easily?energie wrote:i dont know why there is so much debate on this holmes easily
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Easily is what he said Giancarlo.
I disagree. It was very close.
I disagree. It was very close.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Holmes v Witherspoon
I had it for Larry the last time I watched it.
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A lot more definitive than I expected. Dempsey's analysis seems to ring true...but I did score it for Witherspoon the last time I saw it... but that was by 1 point.
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A very close fight.BoxBuzz wrote:Easily is what he said Giancarlo.
I disagree. It was very close.
So, either he didn't see it or he knows nothing about boxing. Or both.
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He didn't see the fight, Giancarlo, or he's one of Flossie's nephews.
It was a Closed Circuit fight and I saw it in an arena that was largely pro-Holmes.
90% of the crowd that night booed the decision. No one I know who watched it thought Holmes got anything but a draw at most.
It was a Closed Circuit fight and I saw it in an arena that was largely pro-Holmes.
90% of the crowd that night booed the decision. No one I know who watched it thought Holmes got anything but a draw at most.
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Holmes was seldom popular with the fans....so the boos seemed bias.
He may have earned the win, but just barely and not in a way that many boxing fans can appreciate....in fact...he was very lucky to have Judges that perhaps were of the old school that the champion has a built in advantage...that he is defending a belt which is his "own property". lol.
This could be looked at a bit like the Ali-Young fight...although in my opinion Witherspoon gave a better account of himself than Young did. And I base this somewhat on the antics of Young and not his pure performance.
He may have earned the win, but just barely and not in a way that many boxing fans can appreciate....in fact...he was very lucky to have Judges that perhaps were of the old school that the champion has a built in advantage...that he is defending a belt which is his "own property". lol.
This could be looked at a bit like the Ali-Young fight...although in my opinion Witherspoon gave a better account of himself than Young did. And I base this somewhat on the antics of Young and not his pure performance.
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Re: Holmes v Witherspoon
Dart340 said the crowd was largely pro-Holmes.BoxBuzz wrote:Holmes was seldom popular with the fans....so the boos seemed bias.
He may have earned the win, but just barely and not in a way that many boxing fans can appreciate....in fact...he was very lucky to have Judges that perhaps were of the old school that the champion has a built in advantage...that he is defending a belt which is his "own property". lol.
This could be looked at a bit like the Ali-Young fight...although in my opinion Witherspoon gave a better account of himself than Young did. And I base this somewhat on the antics of Young and not his pure performance.
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Re: Holmes v Witherspoon
Anyone that couldn't appreciate Holmes gritting his teeth and gutting out that fight when Witherspoon took away his jab isn't anybody I'd refer to as a fan.BoxBuzz wrote: He may have earned the win, but just barely and not in a way that many boxing fans can appreciate....in fact...he was very lucky to have Judges that perhaps were of the old school that the champion has a built in advantage...that he is defending a belt which is his "own property". lol.
This could be looked at a bit like the Ali-Young fight...although in my opinion Witherspoon gave a better account of himself than Young did. And I base this somewhat on the antics of Young and not his pure performance.
With all due respect, that's a terrible analogy. Young got robbed in an abysmal fight, Spoon/Holmes was razor close and fantastic. Ninth round was as good as it gets.
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Saad I said that sort of clumsily. The context I used was very tangent, and your right...one was a good scrap....the other....not so much. I sort of smothered my odd point.
I most regret the way I used the word "fan". "Crowd" might have been better.
Think I'll go back and watch that fight....havent for years.
I most regret the way I used the word "fan". "Crowd" might have been better.
Think I'll go back and watch that fight....havent for years.
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SaadOffTheDeck
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Re: Holmes v Witherspoon
No worries, assuming you mean Holmes/Spoon I watched it a couple weeks ago. I have Ali/Young on DVD too, but I doubt I'll ever watch it again. I have a bunch of those career sets with many fights like that with them. Sometimes I wonder if I wasted money not just piecing them out. Then again, I spent more money on Jaeger in a month than I did on those DVD's at the time so I'm probably just whining because I don't make money like I used too.BoxBuzz wrote:Saad I said that sort of clumsily. The context I used was very tangent, and your right...one was a good scrap....the other....not so much. I sort of smothered my odd point.
I most regret the way I used the word "fan". "Crowd" might have been better.
Think I'll go back and watch that fight....havent for years.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3ugYP9Q6bA
This is an interesting and amazing round. However I watched it 3 times.....and second and third time around I'm distracted by a female in the first or second row who is standing and rocking side to side does she seem to be happy with Tim's progress? She's a bit robotic and she looks somewhat pleased while at the same time full tilt petrified if not somewhat zombified.
This is an interesting and amazing round. However I watched it 3 times.....and second and third time around I'm distracted by a female in the first or second row who is standing and rocking side to side does she seem to be happy with Tim's progress? She's a bit robotic and she looks somewhat pleased while at the same time full tilt petrified if not somewhat zombified.