Mugabi/ R.Wright at 160

[Vladimir5555]

Who?

[gilgamesh]

Winky Wright W12

[Vladimir5555]

Same.

But if Mugabi landed a clean punch....)))).

[gilgamesh]

Same.

But if Mugabi landed a clean punch....)))).

Wright W12 anyway. I don't think he'd stop Winky. I could see him catching him and hurting him or dropping him, but I think Winky has the toughness and skill to survive even if it got scary for a few moments.

[Bobbyptsd]

If Trinidad had landed clean he could have hurt Winky badly too, how did that work out again?


Wright UD here.

[DaveyMac]

If Mugabi beat him it would be the only time ever he beat a good fighter.

Winky would probably knock out The Beast in the 1st like all of his other step ups did to him.

[keithmoonhangover]

Winky Wright W12

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[DaveyMac]

Winky Wright W12

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John Mugabi went the distance 5 times in his life, all against stumblebums after he was over 35 years old and past his prime.
Prime Mugabi never went the distance with anyone. In fact he rarely fought more than a round. The one thing that definitely was not happening in a Mugabi-Wright fight was a distance decision.

Of course he mostly fought tomato cans. Here is his record against guys that were similar to or approached Winky Wright.

Marvin Hagler L Ko11 (probably the best Mugabi ever fought, Hagler's penultimate fight)
Duane Thomas L TKO3
Terry Norris L KO1
Gerald McClellan L TKO1

The question is just when would Wright stop him.

[keithmoonhangover]

Winky Wright W12

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John Mugabi went the distance 5 times in his life, all against stumblebums after he was over 35 years old and past his prime.
Prime Mugabi never went the distance with anyone. In fact he rarely fought more than a round. The one thing that definitely was not happening in a Mugabi-Wright fight was a distance decision.

Of course he mostly fought tomato cans. Here is his record against guys that were similar to or approached Winky Wright.

Marvin Hagler L Ko11 (probably the best Mugabi ever fought, Hagler's penultimate fight)
Duane Thomas L TKO3
Terry Norris L KO1
Gerald McClellan L TKO1

The question is just when would Wright stop him.

If it's the Mugabi that went 11 rounds with Hagler, Winky ain't gonna stop him.

[DaveyMac]

That was the best day of Mugabi's life, which is more than a peak. And it was a past his prime Hagler.

No way does Mugabi make it even 5 rounds with Wright.

[gilgamesh]

That was the best day of Mugabi's life, which is more than a peak. And it was a past his prime Hagler.

No way does Mugabi make it even 5 rounds with Wright.

Winky Wright is not a big puncher at all. He has basically no KO or TKO wins against High Quality opposition in his career. I don't think Mugabi would the exception.
It's not that Wright COULDN'T punch, his style just focused far more on defense and sh*t to worry about it too often.

I doubt very much he'd stop Mugabi.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I like Mugabi by decision in a close fight with a couple knockdowns being the difference.

[DaveyMac]

Thing is Mugabi was knocked out by not so great competition as well.

Point is Mugabi had 5 shots at fighters somewhat near Wright's level and he got massacred all five times.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Thing is Mugabi was knocked out by not so great competition as well.

Point is Mugabi had 5 shots at fighters somewhat near Wright's level and he got massacred all five times.

Wright never knocked out anyone of note, sure he could do it to the used up post Hagler version. Why should I envision a shot fighter for a mythical fight? If we're doing that I can say that Mugabi thrashes the Wright that got his ass kicked by Quillin. It's a much closer fight than you guys are making out, Mugabi had an odd and awkward accuracy that could pierce and come around that guard and Wright isn't going to hurt him, he took bomb after bomb from Hagler before wilting.

I think your point is fair about how great he fought against Marvin, even the John that went to war with Green would give Wright hell. It's not like Winky was a model of consistency he genuinely lost to Simon,Vazquez & Vargas no matter how much he wants to whine about the decision.

[Bobbyptsd]

I'd agree with all that to an extent, but there were basically two versions of Wright. The guy who was getting bounced off the canvas by Green, and then, somewhere around the Vargas fight, especially after really, this guy who had developed into quite a more full and difficult fighter to face.

Not really a big qualm, but I did just want to point out that his career, to some extent, was split in two. It's not like he was going from W to L, with us not knowing which guy would show up.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

True, I would look at this as Mugabi from Hagler against Winky from Tito or Shane 1. Get them in there at their best. The only outlandish prediction is Winky inside 5 rounds. We're all wrong constantly on current fights it's amazing how convinced we are, myself included, on these crossover match ups of similar guys.

[Bobbyptsd]

Yeah, I think if we're going to do this, we have to think prime and best performances, so I'm not sure why Davey is focusing so much on Mugabi's entire career and analyzing it, as you said it's a matter of each fighter at their best, otherwise it's kind of pointless.

[DaveyMac]

Yeah, I think if we're going to do this, we have to think prime and best performances, so I'm not sure why Davey is focusing so much on Mugabi's entire career and analyzing it, as you said it's a matter of each fighter at their best, otherwise it's kind of pointless.

So when is his prime? I'd say he didn't really have one. He only had the one good fight.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

You'd be misinformed, the Green fight kicked ass and he decimated some decent fighters. I'll tell you when his prime wasn't, when he fought Gerald McClellan.

[gilgamesh]

True, I would look at this as Mugabi from Hagler against Winky from Tito or Shane 1. Get them in there at their best. The only outlandish prediction is Winky inside 5 rounds. We're all wrong constantly on current fights it's amazing how convinced we are, myself included, on these crossover match ups of similar guys.

Very True, which is why I rarely argue with anyone's prediction on these kinds of fights unless it's just an outcome I absolutely cannot see happening under any circumstances.

Wright KO'ing Mugabi within 5 is an example of this.

Oscar De La Hoya to beat Sugar Ray Robinson was another.

Most of the time if there's any slight doubt in my mind about who would win, I leave other people to their thoughts on it.

[Bricks]

Winky Wright W12

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John Mugabi went the distance 5 times in his life, all against stumblebums after he was over 35 years old and past his prime.
Prime Mugabi never went the distance with anyone. In fact he rarely fought more than a round. The one thing that definitely was not happening in a Mugabi-Wright fight was a distance decision.

Of course he mostly fought tomato cans. Here is his record against guys that were similar to or approached Winky Wright.

Marvin Hagler L Ko11 (probably the best Mugabi ever fought, Hagler's penultimate fight)
Duane Thomas L TKO3
Terry Norris L KO1
Gerald McClellan L TKO1

The question is just when would Wright stop him.

I don't agree with any of this.anyone who was around during the beasts rise knows he was knocking out hard and seasoned contenders before he fought hagler.the american press had him the third best p4p fighter!! The hagler war and than the horrific Duane Thomas thumbing ruined him.the Norris and McClellan fights he could hardly walk straight to the ring

[Giancarlo]

Winky on points