5 years from now.

Gazmac81 · Post by **Gazmac81** » 15 Oct 2013, 04:39

Its hard to see matchroom falling from the Top in only 5 years with the power they have right now

Allegedly doesnt have many well known boxers now and needs a bigger TV Paltform to encourage bigger names to his stable or showcase the talent he has

if he gets on BT sport then maybe that would change it but everyone likes the Glitz and glamour of Sky sports

Groove Armada wrote:Which promoter rules the Uk roost?
I have a feeling we will see the dawn of a new allegedly era.
Thoughts?

JimJim2009 · Post by **JimJim2009** » 15 Oct 2013, 05:16

Hearn, providing he retains the Sky contract. Without it, he is absolutely screwed.

B ox Nation is great for dedicated fans but I can't see it ever leading to a new fighter "breaking out" into the mainstream. The viewership and exposure is too narrow. That has got to hurt the promoter behind it in the long run.

I think what we've seen with the defections from one camp to another, and the signing of Anthony Joshua, Luke Campbell, Stalker etc, is a distrust of B ox Nation and the promoter behind it.

ILikeBeer · Post by **ILikeBeer** » 15 Oct 2013, 05:26

Bear in mind also, Matchroom isn't financially dependent on just boxing. It's been a profitable sports company for decades. This gives them an advantage over other promoters.

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 15 Oct 2013, 05:27

Gazmac81 wrote:if he gets on BT sport...

BT Sport won't exist in 5 years if they don't sort out their presenters.

Jake Humphrey - Rubbish
Owen Hargreaves - Rubbish
Steve McManaman - Rubbish
David James - Mediocre
Ian Darke - Very Good
Darren Fletcher - Mediocre
Michael Owen - Mediocre
Mark Halsey - Rubbish
Rio Ferdinand - Rubbish
Ray Stubbs - Good
Darrell Currie - Mediocre
Derek Rae - Mediocre
Gary McAllister - Rubbish
Stephen Craigan - Mediocre
Emma Dodds - Mediocre
Danny Baker - Old hat
Danny Kelly - Old hat
Helen Skelton - Rubbish
Matt Clemmett - Mediocre
Paul Dempsey - Good
James Richardson - The best of the bunch
Craig Doyle - Mediocre
Martin Bayfield - Mediocre
Sarra Elgan - Good
Nick Mullins - Good
Alastair Eykyn - Good
Lawrence Dallaglio - Good
Austin Healey - Rubbish
Ben Kay - Good
Matt Dawson - Rubbish
Jill Douglas - Mediocre
Martin Gillingham - Mediocre
Lynsey Hipgrave - Rubbish
Martina Navratilova - Good
Clare Balding - Awful
Christian Howes - Rubbish
Tim Lovejoy - Mediocre
Des Kelly - Good
Neil Warnock - Rubbish
Vassos Alexander - Rubbish
Lynsey Hipgrave - Rubbish
Caroline de Moraes - Rubbish
James Haskell - Very Good
Gareth A Davies - Very Good

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 15 Oct 2013, 05:40

Following on from the above, I think they should get rid of all those who are rubbish and worse than rubbish. The mediocre bunch should be put monitored and if no significant improvement is evident within a month or two, show them the door.

Increase pay and give more work
James Richardson - The best of the bunch
James Haskell - Very Good
Gareth A Davies - Very Good
Ian Darke - Very Good

Keep it up, you're doing well
Ray Stubbs - Good
Paul Dempsey - Good
Sarra Elgan - Good
Nick Mullins - Good
Alastair Eykyn - Good
Lawrence Dallaglio - Good
Ben Kay - Good
Martina Navratilova - Good
Des Kelly - Good

Stern Warning
Michael Owen - Mediocre
Tim Lovejoy - Mediocre
David James - Mediocre
Darren Fletcher - Mediocre
Derek Rae - Mediocre
Stephen Craigan - Mediocre
Emma Dodds - Mediocre
Darrell Currie - Mediocre
Jill Douglas - Mediocre
Martin Gillingham - Mediocre
Craig Doyle - Mediocre
Martin Bayfield - Mediocre
Matt Clemmett - Mediocre

Sack
Jake Humphrey - Rubbish
Owen Hargreaves - Rubbish
Steve McManaman - Rubbish
Mark Halsey - Rubbish
Rio Ferdinand - Rubbish
Gary McAllister - Rubbish
Danny Baker - Old hat
Danny Kelly - Old hat
Helen Skelton - Rubbish
Neil Warnock - Rubbish
Vassos Alexander - Rubbish
Lynsey Hipgrave - Rubbish
Caroline de Moraes - Rubbish
Clare Balding - Awful
Christian Howes - Rubbish
Lynsey Hipgrave - Rubbish
Matt Dawson - Rubbish
Austin Healey - Rubbish

pyenest77 · Post by **pyenest77** » 15 Oct 2013, 05:44

Will any of the current promoters without TV deals have secured deals & be serious rivals such as Coldwell or Goodwin?

Crazyboy · Post by **Crazyboy** » 15 Oct 2013, 07:42

Aden wrote:Following on from the above, I think they should get rid of all those who are rubbish and worse than rubbish. The mediocre bunch should be put monitored and if no significant improvement is evident within a month or two, show them the door.

Increase pay and give more work
James Richardson - The best of the bunch
James Haskell - Very Good
Gareth A Davies - Very Good
Ian Darke - Very Good

Keep it up, you're doing well
Michael Owen - Good
Ray Stubbs - Good
Paul Dempsey - Good
Sarra Elgan - Good
Nick Mullins - Good
Alastair Eykyn - Good
Lawrence Dallaglio - Good
Ben Kay - Good
Martina Navratilova - Good
Des Kelly - Good

Stern Warning
Tim Lovejoy - Mediocre
David James - Mediocre
Darren Fletcher - Mediocre
Derek Rae - Mediocre
Stephen Craigan - Mediocre
Emma Dodds - Mediocre
Darrell Currie - Mediocre
Jill Douglas - Mediocre
Martin Gillingham - Mediocre
Craig Doyle - Mediocre
Martin Bayfield - Mediocre
Matt Clemmett - Mediocre

Sack
Jake Humphrey - Rubbish
Owen Hargreaves - Rubbish
Steve McManaman - Rubbish
Mark Halsey - Rubbish
Rio Ferdinand - Rubbish
Gary McAllister - Rubbish
Danny Baker - Old hat
Danny Kelly - Old hat
Helen Skelton - Rubbish
Neil Warnock - Rubbish
Vassos Alexander - Rubbish
Lynsey Hipgrave - Rubbish
Caroline de Moraes - Rubbish
Clare Balding - Awful
Christian Howes - Rubbish
Lynsey Hipgrave - Rubbish
Matt Dawson - Rubbish
Austin Healey - Rubbish

Thats a long list to go through but Michael Owen!!!! Really???? i know its all about opinions but jesus christ he is crap!! Knowledgable about the game yes, good as a presenter no way (imo of course)

Not a bad judge otherwise mate

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 15 Oct 2013, 08:02

Noted. I will drop Owen down to 'mediocre' as a compromise and keep an eye on him.

DMA1987 · Post by **DMA1987** » 15 Oct 2013, 08:59

I can't see Matchroom dropping the ball, though I will be interested to see who the first high level defector will be.

Counter-puncher · Post by **Counter-puncher** » 15 Oct 2013, 09:08

I find Danny Baker to be one of the most irritating people in the media as a whole

mickey1975 · Post by **mickey1975** » 15 Oct 2013, 09:20

DMA1987 wrote:I can't see Matchroom dropping the ball, though I will be interested to see who the first high level defector will be.

Frampton?

Crazyboy · Post by **Crazyboy** » 15 Oct 2013, 09:44

Aden wrote:Noted. I will drop Owen down to 'mediocre' as a compromise and keep an eye on him.

Thanks mate, i'm happy with that

DMA1987 · Post by **DMA1987** » 15 Oct 2013, 09:45

mickey1975 wrote:
DMA1987 wrote:I can't see Matchroom dropping the ball, though I will be interested to see who the first high level defector will be.
Frampton?

Possibly. Though as I've said before I'm not sold on that being a Frampton defection.

palooka · Post by **palooka** » 15 Oct 2013, 09:47

Matchroom is a lock in; they are in very tight and nuts deep with SKY, the Hearns have other sport shown that pulls more viewers than boxing; I don't think there'll be much movement at all - I don't think Mr Warren will retire and he'll continue to do well but in a few years start showing MMA as well as boxing on his channel.

palooka · Post by **palooka** » 15 Oct 2013, 09:48

DMA1987 wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
DMA1987 wrote:I can't see Matchroom dropping the ball, though I will be interested to see who the first high level defector will be.
Frampton?
Possibly. Though as I've said before I'm not sold on that being a Frampton defection.

Do you think Barry hypnotised him?

mickey1975 · Post by **mickey1975** » 15 Oct 2013, 09:51

palooka wrote:Matchroom is a lock in; they are in very tight and nuts deep with SKY, the Hearns have other sport shown that pulls more viewers than boxing; I don't think there'll be much movement at all - I don't think Mr Warren will retire and he'll continue to do well but in a few years start showing MMA as well as boxing on his channel.

Sky is not certain to carry on with Boxing forever though. They didn't fight to keep UFC for instance. I wonder what they will do if Haye-Fury goes pear shaped. It could easily, according to many on here, end in one round and be followed by a riot...

DMA1987 · Post by **DMA1987** » 15 Oct 2013, 09:52

palooka wrote:
Do you think Barry hypnotised him?

I find it likely that Barry convinced him it was the right thing to do. Through talking rather than hypno techniques though.

DMA1987 · Post by **DMA1987** » 15 Oct 2013, 10:06

palooka wrote:Matchroom is a lock in; they are in very tight and nuts deep with SKY, the Hearns have other sport shown that pulls more viewers than boxing; I don't think there'll be much movement at all - I don't think Mr Warren will retire and he'll continue to do well but in a few years start showing MMA as well as boxing on his channel.

Do you think his channel will still be around in a few years?

palooka · Post by **palooka** » 15 Oct 2013, 11:10

DMA1987 wrote:
palooka wrote:Matchroom is a lock in; they are in very tight and nuts deep with SKY, the Hearns have other sport shown that pulls more viewers than boxing; I don't think there'll be much movement at all - I don't think Mr Warren will retire and he'll continue to do well but in a few years start showing MMA as well as boxing on his channel.
Do you think his channel will still be around in a few years?

I hope so

JimStone · Post by **JimStone** » 15 Oct 2013, 15:37

Carrying on with my BT theme. Richie Woodhall is on now with Dempsey.

Richie is obviously very good at his job. He and Paul are a good team.

mickey1975 · Post by **mickey1975** » 15 Oct 2013, 15:45

Aden wrote:Carrying on with my BT theme. Richie Woodhall is on now with Dempsey.

Richie is obviously very good at his job. He and Paul are a good team.

Richie has been on every English channel showing boxing over the last 15 years. Literally.

Bricks · Post by **Bricks** » 15 Oct 2013, 19:21

Aden wrote:
Gazmac81 wrote:if he gets on BT sport...
BT Sport won't exist in 5 years if they don't sort out their presenters.

Jake Humphrey - Rubbish
Owen Hargreaves - Rubbish
Steve McManaman - Rubbish
David James - Mediocre
Ian Darke - Very Good
Darren Fletcher - Mediocre
Michael Owen - Mediocre
Mark Halsey - Rubbish
Rio Ferdinand - Rubbish
Ray Stubbs - Good
Darrell Currie - Mediocre
Derek Rae - Mediocre
Gary McAllister - Rubbish
Stephen Craigan - Mediocre
Emma Dodds - Mediocre
Danny Baker - Old hat
Danny Kelly - Old hat
Helen Skelton - Rubbish
Matt Clemmett - Mediocre
Paul Dempsey - Good
James Richardson - The best of the bunch
Craig Doyle - Mediocre
Martin Bayfield - Mediocre
Sarra Elgan - Good
Nick Mullins - Good
Alastair Eykyn - Good
Lawrence Dallaglio - Good
Austin Healey - Rubbish
Ben Kay - Good
Matt Dawson - Rubbish
Jill Douglas - Mediocre
Martin Gillingham - Mediocre
Lynsey Hipgrave - Rubbish
Martina Navratilova - Good
Clare Balding - Awful
Christian Howes - Rubbish
Tim Lovejoy - Mediocre
Des Kelly - Good
Neil Warnock - Rubbish
Vassos Alexander - Rubbish
Lynsey Hipgrave - Rubbish
Caroline de Moraes - Rubbish
James Haskell - Very Good
Gareth A Davies - Very Good

You are my favourite poster lately Aden.that list I can't disagree with a single one

It's crazy how setanta than espn not by sport recycle the same shite pundits like mcmaneman and Keegan over and over again.and Michael Owen only cares about making money. Than u look at sky and how they seamlessly have tv gold like carragher and Neville,souness,redknapp,hoddle, the soccer Saturday panel and its the difference between night and day

DMA1987 · Post by **DMA1987** » 15 Oct 2013, 19:34

palooka wrote:
DMA1987 wrote:
palooka wrote:Matchroom is a lock in; they are in very tight and nuts deep with SKY, the Hearns have other sport shown that pulls more viewers than boxing; I don't think there'll be much movement at all - I don't think Mr Warren will retire and he'll continue to do well but in a few years start showing MMA as well as boxing on his channel.
Do you think his channel will still be around in a few years?
I hope so

As do I. I just can't see it making money. I mean is it even profitable yet?

iamasadlittleboy · Post by **iamasadlittleboy** » 15 Oct 2013, 19:48

...am I the only one who thinks Hargreaves is good on BT sport?

Weirdyman · Post by **Weirdyman** » 16 Oct 2013, 11:35

None of you watch Horse Racing? Clare Balding isn't rubbish, she just has a toss show on BT Sport.

All channels have bedding in/teething problems. I can't see BT Sport being as big as Sky Sports, but I think they'll definitely be still knocking around in 5 years.

I can see a allegedly/BT Sport merger happening.

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