tournament.
team seventies
ali
frazier
foreman
norton
team nineties
tyson
lewis
holyfield
vitali
top4HWseventies versus top4HWnineties
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SaadOffTheDeck
- Heavyweight

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Re: top4HWseventies versus top4HWnineties
How does the tournament work and why is Vitali on there instead of Bowe?
Re: top4HWseventies versus top4HWnineties
contemplated on both questions. first had bowe in ratherSaadOffTheDeck wrote:How does the tournament work and why is Vitali on there instead of Bowe?
than vitali, but i figure vitali is overall the stronger fighter,
because bowe faded too quickly. certainly the case can be
made that for the nineties bowe is the better choice than
nineties vitali. sure vitali is borderline nineties, but in a way
so is tyson when it comes to prime. as well as is frazier for
the seventies.
tournament could be each fights each in order to eliminate
luck, like you might have in an olympic tournament with
opponent-luck. i tried to find a perfect point in time, but failed.
it is easier for the seventies, like 1973. but in the nineties it
seems more difficult to me, cause the primes do not seem to
overlap too usefully. post prison tyson was post prime.
in a way, if you want, i tried to make it as favorable as possible
for the nineties, by allowing in a prime tyson (though technically
that was pre-nineties) and taking in an inexperienced vitali though
he didn't really deserve it for his nineties achievements. in any
case i still have the seventies winning. bowe would not change that
for me.
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dempseyfire
- Heavyweight

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Re: top4HWseventies versus top4HWnineties
Vitali's biggest achievements of the 90s were beating Herbie Hide and quitting against Chris Byrd. Bowe beat a prime Holyfield and was the undisputed Heavyweight champion of the world.man wrote:contemplated on both questions. first had bowe in ratherSaadOffTheDeck wrote:How does the tournament work and why is Vitali on there instead of Bowe?
than vitali, but i figure vitali is overall the stronger fighter,
because bowe faded too quickly. certainly the case can be
made that for the nineties bowe is the better choice than
nineties vitali. sure vitali is borderline nineties, but in a way
so is tyson when it comes to prime. as well as is frazier for
the seventies.
tournament could be each fights each in order to eliminate
luck, like you might have in an olympic tournament with
opponent-luck. i tried to find a perfect point in time, but failed.
it is easier for the seventies, like 1973. but in the nineties it
seems more difficult to me, cause the primes do not seem to
overlap too usefully. post prison tyson was post prime.
in a way, if you want, i tried to make it as favorable as possible
for the nineties, by allowing in a prime tyson (though technically
that was pre-nineties) and taking in an inexperienced vitali though
he didn't really deserve it for his nineties achievements. in any
case i still have the seventies winning. bowe would not change that
for me.
Tyson in 91 (who fought Ruddock and KO'd Stewart in 1) was slightly past prime but still close enough to fit your criteria . . the 87-88 Tyson belongs in a group of 1980s Heavyweights.